How did Ruhl train when he grew from 120-231 in 5 years? HIT or Volume?
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****ing insane transformation, him and Arnold came from an athletic background(soccer). My theory is that guys who played soccer in their teen years produce more testosterone, testosterone levels are correlated with mitochondrial profile and playing a sport like soccer stresses the ATP-CP system leading to mitochondrial biogenesis. A high VO2 capacity also decreases the amount of cortisol released post workout. Anyways I made this thread because I was curious as to which style of training method Ruhl used when he was young, HIT or Volume?
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02-13-2009, 02:55 AM #1Registered User
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How did Ruhl train when he grew from 120-231 in 5 years? HIT or Volume?
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02-13-2009, 03:49 AM #2POWER!
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He did LOTS of volume...........
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02-13-2009, 03:55 AM #3Trying to fly away
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Heard he ate like a beast during those 5 years. Here is a pic from his house
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02-13-2009, 04:01 AM #4Registered User
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his off season training is more like HIT than volume
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02-13-2009, 04:05 AM #5Registered User
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exact-a-mundoOriginally Posted by mindraper
He did LOTS of volume...........
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02-13-2009, 04:24 AM #6Registered User
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That is un-fcuking-believable in the time frame!
RE the idea of playing sport when young increasing ability to add muscle; I think there is some credibility, but I would like to point out that Dorian Yates never played any sports when he was a kid, yet as soon as he begun bodybuilding, went from skinny to Mr Olympia in about 9 years.
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02-13-2009, 04:25 AM #7Registered User
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Oh no! Not steroids, anything but steroids!Originally Posted by a-dog
Let's see you what he did in 5 years with all the gear in the world. Ain't gonna happen!
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02-13-2009, 04:48 AM #8
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02-13-2009, 05:02 AM #9Registered User
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c'mon now......I never claimed anything of the sort, never done roids so who knows what I coudl or what I could not do while on them, the simple fact fo the matter is that BB is not important enough to me to do them, it's not something I'm willing to do.Originally Posted by AlasTTTair
don't be niave and think roids had nothing to do with it, I'm sure he trained really hard, ate like a horse and did everything eh could during that timeframe and I give him credit for that but roids play as big-if not bigger a role than the other factors that went into him putting on that weight.
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02-13-2009, 05:13 AM #10
he gained about 100lb of muscle over 5 years.....going off the OP's numbers, roughly an average of 20lbs a year.
no one can do that naturally and most people can't do that even with all the roids in the world. and i think that was the OP's point.
its obvious he juiced, but so do a lot of people..........so the question is a valid one IMO.
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02-13-2009, 05:48 AM #11Registered User
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Its not a choice of either or !
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02-13-2009, 05:57 AM #12the posters on this site fuel the stereotype that bodybuilders are dumb.Originally Posted by adam247
the collective IQ of this forum, outside of eating iron, is like 3.
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02-13-2009, 05:58 AM #13Registered User
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Genetics guys.
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02-13-2009, 06:31 AM #14Registered User
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The man was only a 120 pounds when he was 18...Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot
I bet he worked extremely hard and ate like there was gonna be a famine.
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02-13-2009, 06:41 AM #15Registered User
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Probably, but if any of us did the same we wouldnt see half the results he did, dick.Originally Posted by GOTSPEED
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02-13-2009, 06:53 AM #16Registered User
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Probs even more, he was skinny fat in the first pic, ripped in the 2nd. More like 22-23 lbs of lean muscle mass per year. And he wouldn't have used gear the first time he started training, that would be madness.Originally Posted by hemroid
And Ruhl does have freak genetics, you don't need to start off big to have freak genetics.My routine:
Mon - Biceps
Tues - Triceps
Wed - Biceps
Thurs - Triceps
Fri - Biceps
Sat - Triceps
Sun - Rest
You can't see back and legs, don't waste your time with that nonsense!
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02-13-2009, 07:02 AM #17Registered User
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on markus's website he says he was in this shape after 4 years so he was not at that stage you say?
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Dont over complicate things which should be relatively simple... stick to the ABC's of bodybuilding.
When you start using your calculator and stressing over the latest internet study you know you've gone to far...
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02-13-2009, 07:15 AM #18Registered User
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhrCd65k_NQOriginally Posted by Portsmouth UK
on markus's website he says he was in this shape after 4 years so he was not at that stage you say?
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02-13-2009, 07:18 AM #19the distended one
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well lets just forget it.
believe none of what you read and half of what you see.
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02-13-2009, 08:04 AM #20Registered User
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Originally Posted by roid gut
how does this help the conversation at all?
For everything I've seen and read, he did tons of volume.By Any Means Necessary...
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I agree! i think that "time frame" is all fuked up lmaoOriginally Posted by adam247
something was lost in translationOBSESSION IS A TERM LAZY PEOPLE USE TO DESCRIBE THE DEDICATED!
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02-13-2009, 08:22 AM #22brb flexing
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yeh it must of taken him longer, if thats true than he knew the best gear for him along with training, nutrition and rest.
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02-13-2009, 08:30 AM #23Nimbus Nutrition Rep
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Phenomenal GeneticOriginally Posted by lancs_hotpot
Good Training
Lots of Food
Lots of Roids, GH, Cytomel, Clen, etc..
To build a body like that you need all the above. Genetics however is the most crucial because without those it does not matter how good your diet, training, or steroids are.Certitude is the enemy of wisdom.
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02-13-2009, 08:36 AM #24the distended one
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the time line and weight is likely off.
one of these pros should string together some kind of powerpoint time line thing along with some captioned comments of each point in time.believe none of what you read and half of what you see.
"I do not know" is the birth of wisdom.
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02-13-2009, 09:21 AM #25FullRIM
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He trained like a mofo and ate like one too...
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02-13-2009, 09:58 AM #26Registered User
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Why don't you email him and ask?
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02-13-2009, 10:08 AM #27Registered User
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From 140 to 243
OK so I was wrong he went from 140 to 243
"In 1995 after having recovered from my shoulder injury, I competed in the Bachgau Cup in Babenhausen weighing in at 243 lbs and won the heavyweight and overall title. One week later I received 2nd place at the Grosser Preis von Hessen."
But still it's ****ing insanity.
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02-13-2009, 10:20 AM #28Registered User
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Thats what i meant lol.Originally Posted by leonidas300
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02-13-2009, 01:04 PM #29Nimbus Nutrition Rep
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I understood, just wanted to elaborate on your point. If it was just training and eating half of this forum would be IFBB pros. People do not want to acknowledge how important genetics are to this sport.Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot
Certitude is the enemy of wisdom.
"We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another." Johnathan Swift.
Remember this principle: if you have to chew something, it ain't anabolic. Alan Aragon
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