3 months progress........ [PICS]

[friendlyarab]

I am very confused about my progress of 3 months.... The stats are looking good but the pictures don't show it, please critique.

HEIGHT: 6'2" AGE: Turned 17 2nd month
BEFORE: (Weight: 160lbs, Bench ~ 80lbs 5RM)


1ST MONTH (Weight: Unknown Bench: Unknown) (lost data)


2ND MONTH (Pumped)(Weight: 176lbs, Bench: Unknown)


3RD MONTH (Cold)(Weight: 190lbs, Bench: 130lbs 5RM)





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Feel free to be as harsh as you want, if need be. I am in need of guidance.

Also, yes srs, I am extremely un-photogenic.

[ausman!]

some good gains, but you put on a ****load of fat man...cut your calories to make clean gains

[USMC03AG]

Def got stronger, but you got kinda hefty. How many cals u takin in a day? Maybe do a bit less cals.

[lukahuang]

looks like youve gained fat

[friendlyarab]

Def got stronger, but you got kinda hefty. How many cals u takin in a day? Maybe do a bit less cals.

I take on average 4-5k a day.... Thanks for the suggestion, I'll be taking less calories now.

[Indi.]

I take on average 4-5k a day.... Thanks for the suggestion, I'll be taking less calories now.

Yo...

[MrB1g]

I take on average 4-5k a day.... Thanks for the suggestion, I'll be taking less calories now.

That's what I eat at 235lb's...

Slow down there big guy! If you're making progress on your lifts, I wouldn't worry to much. Cut out the calories and keep on training. You'll see results.

[friendlyarab]

That's what I eat at 235lb's...

Slow down there big guy! If you're making progress on your lifts, I wouldn't worry to much. Cut out the calories and keep on training. You'll see results.

Thanks for the comment man, how much calories do you think I should be taking?

I also added height and age at first post.

[MrB1g]

Thanks for the comment man, how much calories do you think I should be taking?

I also added height and age at first post.

3k? 3.5k tops.

[jakestorm]

10lbs/month is wayyyyyy too much man.

Ajust ur cals so that ur gaining around 2-3lb per month...that way you can stay at a relatively slow bf

[Gibman]

gained mostly fat, keep in mind as you gain fat you will gain strength. that doesnt mean you are putting on muscle. when you are fatter the fat helps you lift more weight. i would cut, then clean bulk dude. just be patient.

[whappend12]

I am very confused about my progress of 3 months.... The stats are looking good but the pictures don't show it, please critique.

HEIGHT: 6'2" AGE: Turned 17 2nd month
BEFORE: (Weight: 160lbs, Bench ~ 80lbs 5RM)


1ST MONTH (Weight: Unknown Bench: Unknown) (lost data)


2ND MONTH (Pumped)(Weight: 176lbs, Bench: Unknown)


3RD MONTH (Cold)(Weight: 190lbs, Bench: 130lbs 5RM)





FLEX PICS, IN ORDER





Feel free to be as harsh as you want, if need be. I am in need of guidance.

Also, yes srs, I am extremely un-photogenic.

wow... dude you put on fat... what exactly are you doing lemme guess... Ripptoes? if you are stop it and do a BB split

[msuwo]

Looks like the rest of the thread agrees with me. I thought you actually lost definition over time. You used to be able to see where your delts cut into your tris/bis but now it's covered over in fat it seems. Maybe cut down your cals, and train a little harder..

[msuwo]

gained mostly fat, keep in mind as you gain fat you will gain strength. that doesnt mean you are putting on muscle. when you are fatter the fat helps you lift more weight. i would cut, then clean bulk dude. just be patient.

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[Gibman]

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you dont know this? LOL

[msuwo]

you dont know this? LOL

I've never heard of fat doing such a thing! Got any good sources I could read up on about this?

[jakestorm]

^Bolded to show wtf?

I believe you bolded the truth..

[Gibman]

I've never heard of fat doing such a thing! Got any good sources I could read up on about this?

here is my source genius. go watch the worlds strongest man. most of those guys carry very heavy amounts of fat. how are they strong? hmmmmmm IDK!? also look at this retard, you bulk up and you get strength, then when you cut you lose strength. why would this happen if fat didnt help you lift heavier weight?

[davidkap]

here is my source genius. go watch the worlds strongest man. most of those guys carry very heavy amounts of fat. how are they strong? hmmmmmm IDK!? also look at this retard, you bulk up and you get strength, then when you cut you lose strength. why would this happen if fat didnt help you lift heavier weight?

i dont think fat makes you strong, but rather it is easier to get stronger when you have fat.

for example its probably easier to put on muscle eating a lot over maintainance rather then a small excess, but once you have the muscle mass, you can cut the fat and you will be equally strong (also long as you cut the right way), but for power lifters fat helps in some cases, like bench, it makes them that a smaller ROM and therefore can lift heavier.

[Gibman]

i dont think fat makes you strong, but rather it is easier to get stronger when you have fat.

for example its probably easier to put on muscle eating a lot over maintainance rather then a small excess, but once you have the muscle mass, you can cut the fat and you will be equally strong, but for power lifters fat helps in some cases, like bench, it makes them that a smaller ROM and therefore can lift heavier.

no. you dont know what you are talking about. if you cut fat you are going to lose weight on your lifts. plain and simple. and being fatter doesnt help you put on massive amounts of muscle. Arnold Schwarzenegger would only bulk up 10lbs in the off season. you guys wanna bulk up 20-30lbs. you wont see much except fat. ill use myself as an example now. when i was a junior i squatted 365lbs 7 times at 240lbs. now at 181 i probably cant even do that once. why? because i lost a **** load of fat! i swear some of you kids are so dumb.

[SteezyChr]

this thread is full of garbage too.

Op eat cleaner/ lower the calories.

Fat does not make u strong idk wat dumbass is spewing that bs.

u have skinny fat build so your diet is gona need to be pretty spot on.

[Indi.]

here is my source genius. go watch the worlds strongest man. most of those guys carry very heavy amounts of fat. how are they strong? hmmmmmm IDK!? also look at this retard, you bulk up and you get strength, then when you cut you lose strength. why would this happen if fat didnt help you lift heavier weight?

I think its because they eat a **** ton of food, careless of their appearance simply to make them stronger as quick as possible.

When you cut you lose some muscle, thus lose some strength. If the power lifters bulked up to a certain extent, cut to lose the flab (whilst losing a bit of muscle), then bulked up again, surpassing their previous bulk, I think think they would have the same strength if not more then when they were fatter. They just simply don't care though. To us, our appearance matters, to them.. not so much (not all obviously). So they continuously eat food to gain more strength and pretty much never cut I'd guess..

[vix_vapor_rub]

ya loooked better in ur first pic lolszzz

[msuwo]

here is my source genius. go watch the worlds strongest man. most of those guys carry very heavy amounts of fat. how are they strong? hmmmmmm IDK!? also look at this retard, you bulk up and you get strength, then when you cut you lose strength. why would this happen if fat didnt help you lift heavier weight?

"I bought ice cream today. It rained today. Therefore, it rains when I buy ice cream"

This is an incredibly weak argument, so much so that I'm not even sure if you're serious. What other people have said is true. Powerlifters may be fat because it's about getting strong, not looking comp ready. And cutting will lose some muscle no matter how careful you are. You have 1 day to provide a credible source, retract your statement, or negz

[Gibman]

this thread is full of garbage too.

Op eat cleaner/ lower the calories.

Fat does not make u strong idk wat dumbass is spewing that bs.

u have skinny fat build so your diet is gona need to be pretty spot on.

fat doesnt make you strong, but it will increase your strength. it gives you more leverage. Arnold Schwarzenegger said that in one of his books, but what does he know he is only the best bodybuilder to ever live!

[SteezyChr]

fat doesnt make you strong, but it will increase your strength. it gives you more leverage. Arnold Schwarzenegger said that in one of his books, but what does he know he is only the best bodybuilder to ever live!

why are you agreeing with what i said and then trying to criticize me for it?

enlighten me to your logic.

[Gibman]

why are you agreeing with what i said and then trying to criticize me for it?

enlighten me to your logic.

just because you are fat doesnt mean you are strong. but putting on fat while weightlifting will increase your strength. can you understand that? or do you need me to use smaller words? when i was a fat 240 i was a lot stronger in compounds than i am at a leaner 181.

[SteezyChr]

just because you are fat doesnt mean you are strong. but putting on fat while weightlifting will increase your strength. can you understand that? or do you need me to use smaller words? when i was a fat 240 i was a lot stronger in compounds than i am at a leaner 181.

your a complete idiot never post an opinion again please.

If you are eating over matience you will put on some fat, but you are building muscle so you will get stronger. When you eat below matience you will burn fat, but also lose some muscle, hence getting weaker.

Ya you were stronger at 240 cause you had more muscle, obv. on a 40lb cut you arent going to be able to hold onto all the muscle you had at 240.

K thanks come again retard.

Putting on fat will not increase your strength, but you will put on some while gaining muscle, that will increase your strength. The muscle.

So why are the fat 200lb+ kids weaker then me, yet they have tons more fat high in 20%?

[gr1zzy]

nvm

[msuwo]

fat doesnt make you strong, but it will increase your strength. it gives you more leverage. Arnold Schwarzenegger said that in one of his books, but what does he know he is only the best bodybuilder to ever live!

just because you are fat doesnt mean you are strong. but putting on fat while weightlifting will increase your strength. can you understand that? or do you need me to use smaller words? when i was a fat 240 i was a lot stronger in compounds than i am at a leaner 181.

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