Nature Vs Society: Delusional Denial

[Below 30]

The struggle for humans to separate themselves from other animals, is a constant battle. Even though science has proven that we are no different than other animals on a biological level, humans continue to deny it. People fear that if they were to admit that we are governed, by the same forces as other animals, humans could no longer claim superiority.

One part I want to focus on, is sexuality.

Religion claims that there is only heterosexuals and all others are abominations. Religion is from society, meaning that the conscious mind of humans created it, not Nature. Nature created Homosexuality as a normal way to control population growth. Homosexual sex will not result in children and was to popualtion control then, what condoms are now. But society doesn't want this fact and truth to be understood. So society created religion to brainwash people, to believe that homosexuals were evil. Religion is practiced in churches. Churches are lead by Priests and reverends etc.

But the same Churches where the religion is practiced, is also where a great concentration of homosexuals reside. But The worst kind of humans are the ones that lead and practice religion in these churches: ****philes. This is not specifically about ****philes, but it goes to show how far from heterosexualuality these people can be. Religion denies that homosexuality is natural and this is why Pastor Ted Arthur Haggard, denied and lied about his homosexuality. You've heard about him in the news, where a Male hooker exposed him. Ted denied it then, but has now admitted to his life style (on CNN Larry King).

Ted Haggard preached the hypocrisy of the bible, which claims that people like he himself, are evil. Yet he lied (which is a sin) about his true self. How could GOD, allow a gay man, to teach people that gay is evil? How could GOD allow this gay man to trick a women into marriage and give birth to children? Why would GOD create gay people if it's evil? The point is that there is no GOD, but Nature.

This goes to show how far society will go, to separate Humans from the animal world. To therefore tell us that we are somehow separated from Nature and were created from magical forces. Most of you will not understand what I'm saying and that's good business for things like churches/religion. But those with common sense and logic, will understand what's really going on.

This isn't specifically about sexuality, it was an example of the many Delusional Denials, that people have about how much we are linked to other animals and Nature. We are diriven by the same protocals as other animals, but with the ability to consciously make adjustments (which humans have). Logical minds know we are animals. Delusional minds believe otherwise.

*Overall Point*
Humans are sexually governed by the same principals as other animals. The mating rituals that humans practice today, is not how we should be doing it, because it's based on society and not Nature. This is why divorce rates are high and relationships never last.

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[E-Dub187]

The struggle for humans to separate themselves from other animals, is a canstant battle. Even though science has proven that we are no different than other animals on a biological level, humans continue to deny it. People fear that if they were to admit that we are governed, by the same forces as other animals, humans could no longer claim superiority.

One part I want to focus on, is sexuality.

Religion claims that there is only heterosexuals and all others are abominations. Religion is from society, meaning that conscious mind of humans created it, not Nature. Nature created Homosexuality as a normal way to control population growth. Homosexual sex will not result in children and was to popualtion control then, what condoms are now. But society doesn't want this fact and truth to be understood. So society created religion to brainwash people, to believe that homosexuals were evil. Religion is practiced in churches. Churches are lead by Priests and reverends etc.

But the same Churches where the religion is practiced, is also where are a great concentration of homosexuals reside. But The worst kind of humans are the ones that lead and practice religion in these churches: ****philes. This is not specifically about ****philes, but it goes to show how far from heterosexualuality these people can be. Religion denies that homosexuality is natural and this is why Pastor Ted Arthur Haggard denied and lied about his homosexuality. You've heard about him in the news, where a Male hooker exposed him. Ted denied it then, but has now admitted to his life style (on CNN Larry King).

Ted Haggard preached the hypocrisy of the bible, which claims that people like he himself, are evil. Yet he lied (which is a sin) about his true self. How could GOD, allow a gay man, to teach people that gay is evil? How could GOD allow this gay man to trick a women into marriage and give birth to children? Why would GOD create gay people if it's evil? The point is that there is no GOD, but Nature.

This goes to show how far society will go, to separate Humans the animal world. To therefore tell us that we are somehow separated from Nature and were created from magical forces. Most of you will not understand what I'm saying and that's good business for things like churches/religion. But those with common sense and logic, will understand what's really going on.

This isn't specifically about sexuality, it was an example of the many Delusional Denials, that people have about how much we are linked to other animals and Nature. We are diriven by the same protocals as other animals, but with the ability to consciously make adjustments (which humans have). Logical minds know we are animals. Delusional minds believe otherwise.
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How does this **** belong on the RH forum?

[Below 30]

How does this **** belong on the RH forum?

Becuase of the Relationships between people and the way we are delusional about how attraction works. The delusional ideas about monogamy and marriage. The idea that 2 people can live together forever. It's all created by Society, not Nature.
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[E-Dub187]

Becuase of the Relationships between people and the way we are delusional about how attraction works. The delusional ideas about monogamy and marriage. The idea that to people can live together forever. It's all created by Society, not Nature.
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It's not relationship help. Sounds more like it belongs on the R/P forum where there are discussions like this. When you make posts telling people there is no God and for stupid reasons like how people behave? Yeah I'm sure there are people in the RP forum willing to have discussions with you.

[Below 30]

It's not relationship help. Sounds more like it belongs on the R/P forum where there are discussions like this. When you make posts telling people there is no God and for stupid reasons like how people behave? Yeah I'm sure there are people in the RP forum willing to have discussions with you.

You do not have to discuss with me then.

There is a PUBLIC poll up now.
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[fukc]

Nature, no sex before marriage is a funny joke.

[Jaw-Knee]

Man governs himself. Man makes his own decisions. Neither nature nor God tells Man what to do; Man tells himself.

[janky]

I think we're more governed by our televisions and societal standards of acceptance than we are by religion OR nature tbh.

religion is slowly fading out of america's youth. As future generations come and go religion will mostly be a thing of the past. At least that's how I feel, I'm sure many would debate that with me.

I think TV tells women how to be beautiful and what's sexy, which in turn tells males what to like, or they force feed it to us on females that none of us could deny as being incredibly attractive.
And of course, since attention is a basic need for women (just like food or shelter), they'll buy anything they feel will garner that attention, and in bulk.

Men are lead by their penis (nature) yes, but what makes a woman hot? Back in the day I'm pretty sure cave woman just wore rags or leaves and had saggy tits, huge bellies, and gigantic fur pies.

Then as we evolved, fashion pushed the limits of taboo and morality (as it does today) and men are only stimulated and interested sexually in the girls that buy into that pushing of the envelope.

If I had to pick one, I'd say nature, because regardless of what the societal definition of "sexy" is, my penis is attracted to it. Ultimately, though, I feel that media dictates what we're attracted to more than anything.

[de_barathrum]

Man governs himself. Man makes his own decisions. Neither nature nor God tells Man what to do; Man tells himself.

this

im a religious person, but im not going to pretend my instincts arent there. they are what they are.

[Jaw-Knee]

this

im a religious person, but im not going to pretend my instincts arent there. they are what they are.

Likewise.

[E-Dub187]

this

im a religious person, but im not going to pretend my instincts arent there. they are what they are.

That's why it's so hard to resist bad temptations brah. They are a part of human nature
(to sin).

[Profane]

Nature, no sex before marriage is a funny joke.

It's not stupid as it sounds. That's was something socially enforced by patriarchal men to assure that our partner's offspring belonged to us as well. Women also gained something in return by guaranteeing that she and her child were taken care of. It made perfect sense for both parties but since the advent of various contraceptive methods all those traditional social mores have sadly gone out the window replaced with a free for all and chaos in the form of divorce, single parents raising delinquent children etc....

[Worst_Name_Ever]

That's why it's so hard to resist bad temptations brah. They are a part of human nature
(to sin).

Religion is sad.

[Crusher_]

Man governs himself. Man makes his own decisions. Neither nature nor God tells Man what to do; Man tells himself.

Isnt this the same as saying a person chooses whether to be gay or straight?..

[Jaw-Knee]

Isnt this the same as saying a person chooses whether to be gay or straight?..

No. But who's to say he doesn't?

[E-Dub187]

Religion is sad.

Your life is sad.

[Crusher_]

No. But who's to say he doesn't?

hmmmm... touche sales man i too have an uncle


If i were a girl with my mind i would choose to be a muff diver fo sure

[get.set.go]

lol i like how 7/8 votes for the nature option has usernames behind them when only 3/24 votes for religion have usernames behind them


looks like someone is using proxies or some **** to vote heaps of times for the religious option.....

[SaviorSix]

Man governs himself. Man makes his own decisions. Neither nature nor God tells Man what to do; Man tells himself.

Or so we think anyway.

[metaldrummer]

The struggle for humans to separate themselves from other animals, is a constant battle. Even though science has proven that we are no different than other animals on a biological level, humans continue to deny it. People fear that if they were to admit that we are governed, by the same forces as other animals, humans could no longer claim superiority.

One part I want to focus on, is sexuality.

Religion claims that there is only heterosexuals and all others are abominations. Religion is from society, meaning that the conscious mind of humans created it, not Nature. Nature created Homosexuality as a normal way to control population growth. Homosexual sex will not result in children and was to popualtion control then, what condoms are now. But society doesn't want this fact and truth to be understood. So society created religion to brainwash people, to believe that homosexuals were evil. Religion is practiced in churches. Churches are lead by Priests and reverends etc.

But the same Churches where the religion is practiced, is also where a great concentration of homosexuals reside. But The worst kind of humans are the ones that lead and practice religion in these churches: ****philes. This is not specifically about ****philes, but it goes to show how far from heterosexualuality these people can be. Religion denies that homosexuality is natural and this is why Pastor Ted Arthur Haggard, denied and lied about his homosexuality. You've heard about him in the news, where a Male hooker exposed him. Ted denied it then, but has now admitted to his life style (on CNN Larry King).

Ted Haggard preached the hypocrisy of the bible, which claims that people like he himself, are evil. Yet he lied (which is a sin) about his true self. How could GOD, allow a gay man, to teach people that gay is evil? How could GOD allow this gay man to trick a women into marriage and give birth to children? Why would GOD create gay people if it's evil? The point is that there is no GOD, but Nature.

This goes to show how far society will go, to separate Humans from the animal world. To therefore tell us that we are somehow separated from Nature and were created from magical forces. Most of you will not understand what I'm saying and that's good business for things like churches/religion. But those with common sense and logic, will understand what's really going on.

This isn't specifically about sexuality, it was an example of the many Delusional Denials, that people have about how much we are linked to other animals and Nature. We are diriven by the same protocals as other animals, but with the ability to consciously make adjustments (which humans have). Logical minds know we are animals. Delusional minds believe otherwise.

*Overall Point*
Humans are sexually governed by the same principals as other animals. The mating rituals that humans practice today, is not how we should be doing it, because it's based on society and not Nature. This is why divorce rates are high and relationships never last.

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[Jaw-Knee]

hmmmm... touche sales man i too have an uncle

If i were a girl with my mind i would choose to be a muff diver fo sure

?

Or so we think anyway.

I'd like to think so.

[something else]

The struggle for humans to separate themselves from other animals, is a constant battle. Even though science has proven that we are no different than other animals on a biological level, humans continue to deny it. People fear that if they were to admit that we are governed, by the same forces as other animals, humans could no longer claim superiority.

One part I want to focus on, is sexuality.

Religion claims that there is only heterosexuals and all others are abominations. Religion is from society, meaning that the conscious mind of humans created it, not Nature. Nature created Homosexuality as a normal way to control population growth. Homosexual sex will not result in children and was to popualtion control then, what condoms are now. But society doesn't want this fact and truth to be understood. So society created religion to brainwash people, to believe that homosexuals were evil. Religion is practiced in churches. Churches are lead by Priests and reverends etc.

But the same Churches where the religion is practiced, is also where a great concentration of homosexuals reside. But The worst kind of humans are the ones that lead and practice religion in these churches: ****philes. This is not specifically about ****philes, but it goes to show how far from heterosexualuality these people can be. Religion denies that homosexuality is natural and this is why Pastor Ted Arthur Haggard, denied and lied about his homosexuality. You've heard about him in the news, where a Male hooker exposed him. Ted denied it then, but has now admitted to his life style (on CNN Larry King).

Ted Haggard preached the hypocrisy of the bible, which claims that people like he himself, are evil. Yet he lied (which is a sin) about his true self. How could GOD, allow a gay man, to teach people that gay is evil? How could GOD allow this gay man to trick a women into marriage and give birth to children? Why would GOD create gay people if it's evil? The point is that there is no GOD, but Nature.

This goes to show how far society will go, to separate Humans from the animal world. To therefore tell us that we are somehow separated from Nature and were created from magical forces. Most of you will not understand what I'm saying and that's good business for things like churches/religion. But those with common sense and logic, will understand what's really going on.

This isn't specifically about sexuality, it was an example of the many Delusional Denials, that people have about how much we are linked to other animals and Nature. We are diriven by the same protocals as other animals, but with the ability to consciously make adjustments (which humans have). Logical minds know we are animals. Delusional minds believe otherwise.

*Overall Point*
Humans are sexually governed by the same principals as other animals. The mating rituals that humans practice today, is not how we should be doing it, because it's based on society and not Nature. This is why divorce rates are high and relationships never last.

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here we ****in go again.....................

[metaldrummer]

I love how this guy thinks he's sooo smart but doesn't even back his **** up when called out, and just passes it off as something you're just supposed to mindlessly believe. For ****'s sake, this article doesn't even have anything to do with helping anyone's relationship, it's just pseudointellectual drivel.

[E-Dub187]

I love how this guy thinks he's sooo smart but doesn't even back his **** up when called out, and just passes it off as something you're just supposed to mindlessly believe. For ****'s sake, this article doesn't even have anything to do with helping anyone's relationship, it's just pseudointellectual drivel.

He has made multiple posts coming up with his own "theories" and doesn't realize how subjective his posts are. They are so subjective, yet he acts like he is a textbook and everyone should read what he types and just accept it lol.

[Below 30]

Nature, no sex before marriage is a funny joke.

I agree.

Man governs himself. Man makes his own decisions. Neither nature nor God tells Man what to do; Man tells himself.

But subconsciously, man is following Nature's program. That's why a straight man gets turned on by a female, Nature told him to be turned on.

I think we're more governed by our televisions and societal standards of acceptance than we are by religion OR nature tbh.

religion is slowly fading out of america's youth. As future generations come and go religion will mostly be a thing of the past. At least that's how I feel, I'm sure many would debate that with me.

I think TV tells women how to be beautiful and what's sexy, which in turn tells males what to like, or they force feed it to us on females that none of us could deny as being incredibly attractive.
And of course, since attention is a basic need for women (just like food or shelter), they'll buy anything they feel will garner that attention, and in bulk.

Men are lead by their penis (nature) yes, but what makes a woman hot? Back in the day I'm pretty sure cave woman just wore rags or leaves and had saggy tits, huge bellies, and gigantic fur pies.

Then as we evolved, fashion pushed the limits of taboo and morality (as it does today) and men are only stimulated and interested sexually in the girls that buy into that pushing of the envelope.

If I had to pick one, I'd say nature, because regardless of what the societal definition of "sexy" is, my penis is attracted to it. Ultimately, though, I feel that media dictates what we're attracted to more than anything.

I like this post.

[Below 30]

this

im a religious person, but im not going to pretend my instincts arent there. they are what they are.

Atleast you can logically acknowledge it.

That's why it's so hard to resist bad temptations brah. They are a part of human nature
(to sin).

Yes.

It's not stupid as it sounds. That's was something socially enforced by patriarchal men to assure that our partner's offspring belonged to us as well. Women also gained something in return by guaranteeing that she and her child were taken care of. It made perfect sense for both parties but since the advent of various contraceptive methods all those traditional social mores have sadly gone out the window replaced with a free for all and chaos in the form of divorce, single parents raising delinquent children etc....

I like this post.

Religion is sad.

I'm agree.

[Below 30]

Isnt this the same as saying a person chooses whether to be gay or straight?..

You're correct. This is what religion frauds us with. When I was a kid, I was homophobic. I knew nothing about homosexuals and then I started to use logic. What kind of man would naturally like girls and then one day, randomly decide to like men?

I love how this guy thinks he's sooo smart but doesn't even back his **** up when called out, and just passes it off as something you're just supposed to mindlessly believe. For ****'s sake, this article doesn't even have anything to do with helping anyone's relationship, it's just pseudointellectual drivel.

By your logic, anyone who starts a thread, thinks they're smart. Why would someone want to think of themselves as not smart? Plus I don't see you doing much to disprove the 1st post.
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[Npeart]

Man governs himself. Man makes his own decisions. Neither nature nor God tells Man what to do; Man tells himself.

Only strong minded individuals subscribe to this, though, brah. And sadly, this world is full of sheep.

[E-Dub187]

Only strong minded individuals subscribe to this, though, brah. And sadly, this world is full of sheep.

Damn brah I can't believe I am a "dumb," "weakminded" sheep. Am I gonna get turnded into a blanket?

[Npeart]

Damn brah I can't believe I am a "dumb," "weakminded" sheep. Am I gonna get turnded into a blanket?

I'm not saying those who believe in God are sheep. If God provides you with a blueprint or moral compass, by all means follow it. I can't see how you would get steered wrong. However, those who alow the mass media to spoon feed them nonsense, well, BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. . . . .sheep.