Do I need still Casein protein at night?

[Vietgoboi]

On keto diet fasting at night because of sleep. Does the body still tries to tear down muscle for protein? Or Because on keto diet, the body use fat as source during sleep and muscle is left alone?

[Black_Spit]

It sure can't hurt.

I just do Whey + 2 tb natural Peanut Butter.

[Eileen]

If you are burning fat for energy, even during sleep, you are not burning muscle. You don't NEED to eat protein before bed to safeguard your muscles. If you are hungry in the evening, then something like cottage cheese is good as it keeps you feeling full so you are less likely to wake up from hunger.

[jked4life]

IMO, nobody really NEEDs Casein at night.


Any type of protein source and fat before bed would be fine. I would say that no matter what diet you were on.


People over worry about going "Catabolic" over night. It's really not that big of a deal.

[Vietgoboi]

many thanks and ohh I am in the red lolz

Thanks* just for that moment I shouldn't have neg that guy back in the red.. haha

[s.o.u.p]

If you are burning fat for energy, even during sleep, you are not burning muscle. You don't NEED to eat protein before bed to safeguard your muscles. If you are hungry in the evening, then something like cottage cheese is good as it keeps you feeling full so you are less likely to wake up from hunger.

You need protein to create the amino acids needed to digest fats or carbohydrates, when you're not eating protein, the body gets them from muscle tissue.

[Vietgoboi]

You need protein to create the amino acids needed to digest fats or carbohydrates, when you're not eating protein, the body gets them from muscle tissue.

What about fat storage from our bodies? Did you mean it for incoming foods or already in storge?

[jecristragedy]

You need protein to create the amino acids needed to digest fats or carbohydrates, when you're not eating protein, the body gets them from muscle tissue.

lol, your body isnt going to attack your muscles as soon as you fall asleep cause you havent eaten protein in a few hours.



if you *were* losing any muscle during sleep, it wouldnt even be worth mentioning. its just not significant.

pretty sure it would take at least a few days of not eating any protein to actually notice muscle loss.
even back before i knew what i was doing, say in like 8th grade when i was just working out cause i liked it, as a vegetarian who believed in skipping breakfast and lunch, i cant imagine i was getting more than 30g of protein a day and i still kept my muscle :/

[s.o.u.p]

Yes, you still need amino acids to digest stored bodyfats.

[s.o.u.p]

lol, your body isnt going to attack your muscles as soon as you fall asleep cause you havent eaten protein in a few hours.

I never said that, and I agree on the other points you made, however having a macronutrient source that's being digested while you sleep is beneficial.

What I said was true, and you agreed, I wasn't trying t be all fearmongering about it, just pointing out the facts.

[J1n]

i like taking casein at night. it keeps my stomach full and helps me sleep.

[jked4life]

i like taking casein at night. it keeps my stomach full and helps me sleep.

Well, if you like the way it tastes and it helps you sleep then go for it.


Personally, I hate the sh*t and can't stand it. It makes me queasy if I have a stomach full of it at night (serious).