response to the belief in god thread..

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by hpdcoop

Evidence?

And you cant just create a man/woman/garden of eden/planet/solar system out of nothing.

GOD DOES NOT EXIST!

you just contradicted yourself...

yes youre right, a man/woman/garden of eden/planet/solar system cant just appear out of no where.

and ill bring science in this to: you cant create or destroy matter.

so what im getting at is something had to put us here, something had to CAUSE the big bang. it couldnt just appear out of nothing.

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by SicWithIt

x2 would rep but ive been getting negged hard recently

answer me this: how did we get here?

and if you say big bang, then what caused it?

**SicWithIt** · 02-06-2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by SOONERfan75

you just contradicted yourself...

yes youre right, a man/woman/garden of eden/planet/solar system cant just appear out of no where.

and ill bring science in this to: you cant create or destroy matter.

so what im getting at is something had to put us here, something had to CAUSE the big bang. it couldnt just appear out of nothing.

yet god can appear out of nothing?

explain.

**SicWithIt** · 02-06-2009, 12:49 PM

and if you say "the bible says"

im gonna keep asking you.

**DC-user** · 02-06-2009, 12:52 PM

read the ontological argument/

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by SicWithIt

yet god can appear out of nothing?

explain.

honestly i cant... its called faith.

but like i said SOMETHING had to start the chain reaction that cauesed everything to appear.

**injured44** · 02-06-2009, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by SOONERfan75

answer me this: how did we get here?

and if you say big bang, then what caused it?

what caused GOD

and just because you dont know the answer to something doesnt mean god did it.

science = has evidence

god = a bunch of wishful thinking

**Arbex** · 02-06-2009, 12:55 PM

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by injured44

what caused GOD

and just because you dont know the answer to something doesnt mean god did it.

science = has evidence

god = a bunch of wishful thinking

see post above yours

**illriginalized** · 02-06-2009, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by SicWithIt

yet god can appear out of nothing?

explain.

lol outside of our realm.

**blancmange** · 02-06-2009, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

lol outside of our realm.

what a cop out

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

lol outside of our realm.

pretty much explains it

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 01:04 PM

bump

nobody else has anything to say??

**SicWithIt** · 02-06-2009, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by SOONERfan75

bump

nobody else has anything to say??

lulz @ oklahoma losing to florida.

**mitch9847** · 02-06-2009, 01:07 PM

i dont know much about these things however off the top of my head here is an interesting biblical ties to history

in the old testament when israel split into israel and judea it goes through all the kinds in the books of kings and chronicles. while the assyrians were rising into the first great world empire they were conquering everything in their path and moving into israel from the north towards egypt. when hezekiah was kind over judea its recorded in the bible that he trusted in god to deliver them from the assyrians. the assyrians conquered the city of lachesh north of jerusalem and moved down to lay siege to jerusalem. one last bible reference - it says the angel of the lord killed 185000 of them in the night and when they woke up they were like wtf and left. i forget who ruled at that time in assyria but he recorded on an object known as taylors prism, the conquest of the assyrians. it talks about surrounding hezekiah and jerusalem though never mentions defeat.

here is a map of the empire

though it was kinda cool

http://warandgame.files.wordpress.co...of_assyria.png

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by SicWithIt

lulz @ oklahoma losing to florida.

damn brah now thats just mean bringing that up lol.

we got the heisman trophy winner comin back though so i think we'll be pretty good again next year.

**illriginalized** · 02-06-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by blancmange

what a cop out

Then please do explain what triggered the big bang. It's not a cop out by any means. The problem is, you have your personal perspective of religion and God without knowing much about the subject. Anyways, I'll wait for an explanation... after that I'll unsub.

**A1lthatrema1ns** · 02-06-2009, 01:23 PM

these threads make me so mad, i cant believe anyone is retarded enough to follow religion/believe in God. grow up

Evolution = Proven

Science = win

**tenthirtytwo** · 02-06-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by DC-user

im calling that person and others who agreed to actually give a good reason why it is more rational to believe that there is not a god than believe that there is a god?

Rationality is based on evidence. There is no evidence for a god. Therefore, it is more rational to believe that a god does not exist than to believe that a god does exist.

You (or others) may have some stuff you call evidence, or stuff that is meaningful to you and therefore you call it evidence, but that isn't what I'm talking about here. It is less rational to believe in Russel's teapot vs not, despite a person saying "but I saw it myself!" or some such thing.

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by A1lthatrema1ns

these threads make me so mad, i cant believe anyone is retarded enough to follow religion/believe in God. grow up

Evolution = Proven

Science = win

have you not been reading the posts?

how did the monkeys get here for us to eveolve from?
how did the earth get here for us to live on?
how did the universe get here?
where did all that matter and energy that caused the big bang come form?

things dont just appear out of no where...

answer me these questions.

**blancmange** · 02-06-2009, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

Then please do explain what triggered the big bang. It's not a cop out by any means. The problem is, you have your personal perspective of religion and God without knowing much about the subject. Anyways, I'll wait for an explanation... after that I'll unsub.

we dont know yet, but with everything measured, calculated, quantified and corroborated we are getting closer

you just sit there fisting your own ass and making up ridiculous star trek nonsense.. Honestly its like talking to a 5 year old.. As a poster said above me, "who made god then".. Well who?? In fact star trek at least is half-based on fact...

Originally Posted by SOONERfan75

have you not been reading the posts?

how did the monkeys get here for us to eveolve from?
how did the earth get here for us to live on?
how did the universe get here?
where did all that matter and energy that caused the big bang come form?

things dont just appear out of no where...

answer me these questions.

put down the suicide vest and go read a book, please

**tenthirtytwo** · 02-06-2009, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by SOONERfan75

have you not been reading the posts?

how did the monkeys get here for us to eveolve from?
how did the earth get here for us to live on?
how did the universe get here?
where did all that matter and energy that caused the big bang come form?

things dont just appear out of no where...

answer me these questions.

When we get back far enough, the correct, rational response would be "I don't know." The irrational response would be "a god did it".

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by blancmange

put down the suicide vest and go read a book, please

not sure what you mean by that... i read and i really like science just like probably 95% of christians.

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by tenthirtytwo

When we get back far enough, the correct, rational response would be "I don't know." The irrational response would be "a god did it".

well actually science has pretty much proven that god exsists imo.

they say that matter CAN NOT be created, well where did the matter and energy come from that caused the big bang?

so the rational response(imo) would be "a god did it"

**DorteeClan** · 02-06-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by tenthirtytwo

When we get back far enough, the correct, rational response would be "I don't know." The irrational response would be "a god did it".

Another rational response would be "I truly believe God did it, but I can't prove it."

**Crazy_Desi** · 02-06-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Danny23

Then please do explain what triggered the big bang. It's not a cop out by any means. The problem is, you have your personal perspective of religion and God without knowing much about the subject. Anyways, I'll wait for an explanation... after that I'll unsub.

dude.. nobody knows what caused the big bang. **** man, like I said we've only JUST begun to advance in technology. just because science can't prove something now doesn't mean it won't prove it in the future.

give it time.

stop saying just because we can't explain it logically that you can explain it by saying god made the universe.

seriously, you guys MUST have been convinced of religion before you were able to critically think, any logical, intelligent human being would not rationalize our creation and the existence of the entire universe (in which we make up probably not even a trillionth of) by some god who nobody has proof of.

**blancmange** · 02-06-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by DorteeClan

Another rational response would be "I truly believe God did it, but I can't prove it."

I think you need to reassess your definition of rational.. Thats a psychotic delusion or a hallucination

**tenthirtytwo** · 02-06-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by DorteeClan

Another rational response would be "I truly believe God did it, but I can't prove it."

That wouldn't be rational, since it isn't based on evidence.

Originally Posted by SOONERfan75

well actually science has pretty much proven that god exsists imo.

they say that matter CAN NOT be created, well where did the matter and energy come from that caused the big bang?

so the rational response(imo) would be "a god did it"

It always existed.

If matter can't be created, then you've certainly ruled out your creator.

**Crazy_Desi** · 02-06-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by SOONERfan75

well actually science has pretty much proven that god exsists imo.

they say that matter CAN NOT be created, well where did the matter and energy come from that caused the big bang?

so the rational response(imo) would be "a god did it"

you have to understand, some of our laws may be wrong. we've only been coming up with theories for a couple hundred years, imagine if in the future we get another einstein and he disproves einstein's theory of relativity.

just saying, it COULD be wrong, even though it's unlikely. not all science is 100% fact, a lot of it is theory. who knows, maybe it is possible to create matter. takes time to figure this stuff out.

**SOONERbrahhh** · 02-06-2009, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by tenthirtytwo

It always existed.

doesnt make any since... things dont just appear out of nothing, something had to put it there

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