Tom brady is the best nfl PLAYER ever.

[Sick96stang]

P. Manning 14/31 137 Yards 0 TDs 2 Interceptions

Now kindly SHUT THE **** UP

LOL yea notice how he still had to throw the ball 10 more times. Like said good job Tom you have Manning edged out by a bit in the playoff's in overall stats and Manning has you crushed in the regular season stats.

[Huse]

7-8 is just pathetic.

Hell, I'll even bet that The Dilf has a winning record in January.

The Dilf!

Dude I'll bet the interception-machine has a winning record in January

well I won't bet a lot but it's possible

[Sick96stang]

lulz yea because clearly the patriots aren't capable of winning without cameras, 18 straight wins lol wut. The D Rays were second in the league, the Yankees couldn't beat them nobody could but the Phillies. Good point though -> I thought we were done living in the past?. LOL at hating on Hockey, ur opinion means ****, I care about it and a win is a win. People said the same **** about the Celtics last year, talk is cheap.

Apparently they can't win a super bowl without them.

[beer n brats]

Brady holds the single season record with 50. Favre's highest total = 39.

LOL

did i say season or all time record? thought so chump.

and am i supposed to be impressed? nope im not, because unlike you and many i understand how the nfl has changed. its like in baseball, years ago 25 hr 100 rbi and .300 was considered elite, now in the roid day, its all about 60-70 hrs, 160 rbi and .370 BA.

bradys td total is in fact the highest, but other qbs seasons have been more impressive, 84 marino, 95,96 favre to name some.

as a matter of fact, the longer the nfl continues to cater the passing game, the better it makes guys like marino and favre look.

since the early 00's, the nfl has focused more on passing and offense, the biggest difference being illegal contact. the proof that its only helping qbs and offenses is that all these records are being broken;

A. marinos td record stood for 20 years, the same year illegal contact rule came into play, it was broken. coincidence?

B. just 2 seasons later, the td record was once again broken. coincidence?

C. in 2004 (illegal contact rule), daunte culpepper, yes you heard that right, culpepper was on pace to break marinos td AND yardage record before guess who.... moss went down. coincidence?

D. drew brees of all people joins marino in the 5k club in a pass happy nfl. not even the greats like favre, moon, fouts, kelly could do it.

E. not to mention all these sky high qb ratings.


i bring up all time td total which is much more difficult to do than one season, because all time shows how good you really were, rather than one season with moss which makes you look better than you really are....

take it like this. favre in a tougher passing and overall better era;

in 95, his wrs were brooks, a. morgan and the packers averaged 3.5 ypc. keep in mind favre didnt have the sissy pass happy rules. what did he do? threw 4413 yrds, 38 (3rd most all time at the time) and a career low 13 ints.

brady had something similar, i think his numbers were something like 3,500 yrds, 24/12

brady needs the best line in the business, 2 top 10 players on O, and all the pass rules in his favore to even have a season worthwhile to one of favres with a below averge offense? thats the real LOL jkeith....

on noes brady has 50 favre only 39... ask me if im impressed.......

[SweetTouch]

Dude I'll bet the interception-machine has a winning record in January

well I won't bet a lot but it's possible

Barely. I think the Mississippi Gunslinger is like 13-11 in the playoffs.

Still better than Peyton's sub-.500 postseason record, but both records look awful when put next to Brady's.

[Sick96stang]

Nah it's Peyton's TEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM WAHHHHHHHh

I love how the Brady haters attribute the SB wins to the team as a whole but the losses fall squarely on Brady, logic FTW

The Pats D only gave up 17 points... how could you possible blame their defense for that loss? Tom and his offensive line sucked it up.

[beer n brats]

Dude I'll bet the interception-machine has a winning record in January

well I won't bet a lot but it's possible

he does, and id bet it be even better if the packers were able to win in spite of their qbs chokejobs as much as the patriots.

[jkeithc82]

on noes brady has 50 favre only 39... ask me if im impressed.......

Dude you left out that Favre has the same number of 20+ int seasons as Brady has playoff appearances.

Dude, that is something!

[SweetTouch]

Dude you left out that Favre has the same number of 20+ int seasons as Brady has playoff appearances.

Dude, that is something!

The Gunslinger's INT record will never be eclipsed.

[Huse]

The Gunslinger's INT record will never be eclipsed.

That's Mississippi Gunslinger to you

[SweetTouch]

That's Mississippi Gunslinger to you

My bad, brah. Please don't neg me. I'll buy some Wrangler jeans, I promise!

[Huse]

My bad, brah. Please don't neg me. I'll buy some Wrangler jeans, I promise!

Alright.....

[SweetTouch]

Alright.....

Bad to the Bone

B-B-B-B-BAD

Real. Comfortable. Jeans.

[daveygun]

until manning LEADS his team to a superbowl he s really out of the discusion. im sorry but in 2006 he had more ints than td's. the guy has been shut out in the playoffs n held to 3.

brady threw for 3 td's in 2 of his superbowl wins. has never choked. lastyear he drove the team down the field to get the go ahead td.

if roethlisberger cud win another or keep his level of winningness and play up he cud be considered up their with manning and possibly brady. hell roethisberger finds a way to win, peyton doesnt fact.

[beer n brats]

Dude you left out that Favre has the same number of 20+ int seasons as Brady has playoff appearances.

Dude, that is something!

favre has 6 20+ int seasons in 17 seasons of play, marino has 4 in the same amount of seasons, he also had a number of seasons where he missed time.

in 87, he played in 12 games, had 13 ints, if he woulda started every game that year, a chance at 20+

in 95, he played 14 games, threw 15, a possible chance at 20 if he played the 2 games he missed...

in 99, he played 11 games and threw 17 ints, easily woulda went 20+ if he plays the whole season.

what does that say about the greatest pocket passer of all time int machine perhaps? inaccurate?


like most people know, durability and longevity contribute to all records, including ints. marino was only like 23 ints from the all time record when he retired and he was nowhere near as durable as favre.


im owning you jkeith........

[jkeithc82]

im owning you jkeith........

Yeah man lol, we're all convinced of the gunslinger's greatness.

LMAO

[beer n brats]

lmao @ season mvps being a basis for being a good QB

so any qb can win multiple mvps? much less 3 in a row?

just like how favre got a pro bowl selection this year for having an attociously bad td-int rating, each award is largely a popularity contest

pb's are more popularity than mvp awards. besides favre was snubbed for the pb in 94, and 04, so it evens out.

A QB with the record for interceptions is exempt from being considered better than Brady, sorry brah

lol c'mon. if brady is better than favre then so is bradshaw, aikman, and namath. favres career is one of the most impressive out there, bradys is not. thats like me saying a qb with as many below 30 td seasons as brady is exempt from being better than favre.....

[jkeithc82]

favres career is one of the most impressive out there, bradys is not. thats like me saying a qb with as many below 30 td seasons as brady is exempt from being better than favre.....

Actually, Favre's prime years are impressive but his career as a whole is fairly average.

When has Brady ever had a bad season, in his entire career?

[Sick96stang]

until manning LEADS his team to a superbowl he s really out of the discusion. im sorry but in 2006 he had more ints than td's. the guy has been shut out in the playoffs n held to 3.

brady threw for 3 td's in 2 of his superbowl wins. has never choked. lastyear he drove the team down the field to get the go ahead td.

if roethlisberger cud win another or keep his level of winningness and play up he cud be considered up their with manning and possibly brady. hell roethisberger finds a way to win, peyton doesnt fact.

Brady has never lead his team to a super bowl.

2001 PPG

Passing: 7th
Defense: 2nd

2003 PPG

Passing: 6th
Defense: 4th

2004 PPG

Passing: 2nd
Defense: 2nd

One year he tied with his defense for leading his team to a super bowl the other two super bowl years his defense lead him there. In 2006 when Manning won

2006 PPG

Passing: 3rd
Defense: 2nd

Manning lead his team to that super bowl more so than Brady did in two of his years.

[dcarrera]

Brady has never lead his team to a super bowl.


Manning lead his team to that super bowl more so than Brady did in two of his years.

oh ok mel kiper jr

[beer n brats]

Actually, Favre's prime years are impressive but his career as a whole is fairly average.

how is favres career "fairly average?"

because he fell back down to earth after being ridiculously off the charts in his prime, or because his play dwindled as age caught up to him?

no qb has ever won 3 straight ap mvp awards, thrown 30+ tds in a season 8 different times, led the league in tds 5 different seasons or started 270 straight games at the most important position taking all the hits and playing through the injuries. thats just a few. also all the records he has achieved (some not good).. everybody says he played "forever", but he broke the records in his 16th playing season at 37/38 years of age.

[Sick96stang]

Actually, Favre's prime years are impressive but his career as a whole is fairly average.

When has Brady ever had a bad season, in his entire career?

Favre 7 seasons: 61.8%, 3829 yards, 30.4 TD's, 16.5 INT's, 89.1 QB rating
Brady 7 seasons: 62.9%, 3766 yards, 28.1 TD's, 12.2 INT's, 92.5 QB rating

Of course Brady's stats look inflated as well since his last season when he had debatebly the best receiver in the NFL that boosted his stats quite a bit. Favre never had anybody near the caliber of Moss even with that last year inlcluded in his prime Favre put up some pretty comprable #'s to Brady. Here's Brady's # without 2007 included

61.9%, 3593 yards, 24.5 TD's, 13 INT's, 88.4 QB rating

As you can see Brady without the Moss/Welker combo his stats fall off A LOT. Without that year he has Favre beat by .1% comp, he has 236 less yards, 5.9 less TD's, 3.5 less INT's, .7 worse QB rating.

[Sick96stang]

oh ok mel kiper jr

Awww thats precious he's now realizing his hero Tom Brady really didn't do as much in those super bowl years.

[JMW21]

Those are your top 4 greatest NFL players of all-time?

^ no current my bad, best all-time is kind of hard for me since I'm only 18. So im going with Favre

[Huse]

Favre 7 seasons: 61.8%, 3829 yards, 30.4 TD's, 16.5 INT's, 89.1 QB rating
Brady 7 seasons: 62.9%, 3766 yards, 28.1 TD's, 12.2 INT's, 92.5 QB rating

Of course Brady's stats look inflated as well since his last season when he had debatebly the best receiver in the NFL that boosted his stats quite a bit. Favre never had anybody near the caliber of Moss even with that last year inlcluded in his prime Favre put up some pretty comprable #'s to Brady. Here's Brady's # without 2007 included

61.9%, 3593 yards, 24.5 TD's, 13 INT's, 88.4 QB rating

As you can see Brady without the Moss/Welker combo his stats fall off A LOT. Without that year he has Favre beat by .1% comp, he has 236 less yards, 5.9 less TD's, 3.5 less INT's, .7 worse QB rating.

LMAO ok and then Favre has better receivers taking out the only season Brady has ever had a quality offense around him so when does the cycle end?

[Shawshank3741]

Awww thats precious he's now realizing his hero Tom Brady really didn't do as much in those super bowl years.

Sick Stang u got all the numbers dont you? You little stat geek, go apply for a job at elias sports. How can you blindly throw out there that if you put Manning on the Pats he'd do better? *cue up mister rogers make believe*

Lets face it, they are the two best Quarterbacks of the last 15 years but Brady is the better WINNER

[kethnaab]

Barely. I think the Mississippi Gunslinger is like 13-11 in the playoffs.

Still better than Peyton's sub-.500 postseason record, but both records look awful when put next to Brady's and Ben Roethlisberger's.

fixed

[C-Squared]

I've gotta say, Brady may walk away the most DECORATED quarterback in history, that's for sure... one more ring, combined with the fact that he had Marino-esque stats last season... nobody's done that before.

[Huse]

Sick Stang u got all the numbers dont you? You little stat geek, go apply for a job at elias sports. How can you blindly throw out there that if you put Manning on the Pats he'd do better? *cue up mister rogers make believe*

Lets face it, they are the two best Quarterbacks of the last 15 years but Brady is the better WINNER

Peyton-nut huggers are impossible to argue with. They know Brady is far more successful so they'll shout and scream everytime his name is mentioned. Sore losers are always going to be sore losers

[garbazio]

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