Henderson is such a live dog here guys, he is old but his technique and sheer will is something to behold.
take the Shogun fight, look at all the damage he took and was still able to survive and even prevail.
Jones will probably win, in my opinion a decision, but Henderson will have glimpses in this fight and even possibly; finish this young kid Bones.
what do YOU guys think?
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08-06-2012, 11:12 PM #1Ambassador
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I believe Henderson has a better shot than most people think....
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08-06-2012, 11:18 PM #2Registered User
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I think the title was confusing and made me wonder why anyone would think benson henderson was an underdog to edgar when he beat him the first time around.
That being said, you saw how hendo looked in the later rounds against shogun, the dude will get tko'd or sub'd in the 4th or 5th if it gets that far.OWE ME reps for life: dcarrera
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08-06-2012, 11:28 PM #3Registered User
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He's talented and a great fighter, but he's simply too small and jones has too much reach.
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08-06-2012, 11:31 PM #4Registered User
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I like Jones, but I think that at this point only Jones can cause his own defeat. Skill-wise, he craps on the division, but he if becomes over-confident and slacks off, that's where he'll be vulnerable. With that said, I think most people (including myself) are over overlooking Hendo as having a chance. It's kinda like the expectation has become, "okay Hendo, go in there, get a good round 1 in, get subbed, and give your retirement speech, then ride into the sunset like John Wayne". At any rate, if Jones gets caught up in his own hype he may take a fall. Otherwise, he'll find a way to dominate.
It the fight doesn't end by Sub in round 1 or 2, I think it'll be because Jones will drag the fight into round 4 and expect to KO a gassed Hendo.
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08-07-2012, 09:57 AM #5Banned
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no he does not
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08-07-2012, 10:35 AM #6Registered User
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Henderson has a better chance then Rampage, Evans, and Shogun. He will win by KO, which will make him the greatest of all time.
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08-07-2012, 11:42 AM #7seaman extremist
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Highly unlikely hendo wins. He'll stalk him and wing his right hand and gas early. Jbj will utilize reach and throws to dominate the fight and very possibly be the first to tko/ko hendo.
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08-07-2012, 12:01 PM #8
Hendo has one hope, to land an H-Bomb and knock Jones out cold. When you only have one very specific path to victory, and you tend to gas in the 2nd rd, it's probably not going to go well against a fighter as talented as Jon Jones.
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08-07-2012, 12:15 PM #9Registered User
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What's this 'technique' you speak of vis-a-vis Hendo?
The same fighter who has claimed in the past to not studying tape of his opponents?
Hendo has a puncher's chance. That's it. He doesn't even have the wrestling advantage in this match.
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08-07-2012, 12:15 PM #10Registered User
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Jones could definitely submit Henderson, but no way Jones gets a KO.Originally Posted by battousai216
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08-07-2012, 12:28 PM #11Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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i am willing to say that jones will be the first to knock out hendo cold. He has the ability to do it. Whether he does or not is another.
I am just gonna get my popcorn ready and enjoy the fight of the year.
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Hendo would be wise to not stand and trade with Jones.Originally Posted by ftwrestler
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He could very well get a tko, hendo has been rocked a lot lately and if jbj can catch him and follow up he definitely can. And keep in keep in mind by round five hendo will be exhausted and practically unable to defend which could cause I tko just from that. Imagine jones mounting hendo like shogun did, jbj would stilll have the cardio to finish.Originally Posted by mmondo13
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Only hope Hendo has is knocking Jones out. If it goes into the later rounds, Jones will win without a question. I think if there's anyone that can beat Jones, it's Hendo. Hopefully he does. I can't stand Jones.
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Tons of good replies in here, good opinions guys.
I think old-man Henderson will survive at least 3 rounds.
His stand-up is so under-rated and he will stuff at least 1 Jones TDGuided by the רוח הקודש
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08-07-2012, 01:44 PM #16I throw spinning sh*t
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That's a shame, considering it's his best avenue to a victory.Originally Posted by Mogambo
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I'm not sure about the rest of you guys, but I personally believe Jones is more likely to gas if the grappling is anything close to even.
Jones was super unappealing physically before this camp, and yes he will show up in great shape but that doesn't make the first part of this statement false.
Henderson went 5 grueling rounds with Shogun, and attempted to finish him multiple times and still had the energy to not get finished, and still take the decision.
Jones is a different animal than Shogun yes, but Jones demolished Shogun from the start via flying knee and was still breathing heavy after the TKO (given it was his first championship fight, big stage) you have to weigh the facts.
I personally wasn't impressed with Jones against Rashad aside from the standing elbows (which Jones became obsessed with), and my personal opinion is Henderson would finish Rashad in at least 3/10 meetings (Henderson over Rashad in most that end in decisions too).
I just personally think over-all, Henderson is being over-looked skill wise.
His skills are as good, if not better than Jones....but he will have a bit of height, weight, age and length to make up for.Guided by the רוח הקודש
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08-07-2012, 01:59 PM #18Registered User
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I think Hendo's only shot is GnP.Originally Posted by HardGainer82
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lmao at the idea of Jon Jones KO'ing Hendo. Because Jon has so much power and has been KO'ing so many guys right? He's now going to be the first to ever KO the most legendary chin in all of MMA?
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08-07-2012, 02:28 PM #20Registered User
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I highly doubt Hendo wins this fight; I'm picking Jones in the 2nd by submission.
I'm hoping he can at least show us some weakness in Jones' game that Machida could potentially capitalize on.
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Out of curiosity, why are you so eager to see Jones show weakness?Originally Posted by Brian0602
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You really don't think if Jones gets on top and starts raining down elbows, he can't get a stoppage? He hasn't done that strategy a ton lately...but he completely merked Vera, MAtyushenko, Hamill, etc. that way.Originally Posted by mmondo13
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A TKO yes, but a KO? No way.Originally Posted by RoccoTanno123
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Hendo's gnp isn't enough to stop Jones. It's far from legendary. But The Big Right Hand (tm) could do it.Originally Posted by Mogambo
Stoppage yes, legit KO, I'd be very surprised. Even Anderson had to choke him to finish it.Originally Posted by RoccoTanno123
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I actually could see a Jones TKO, but not a Jones KO...Originally Posted by RoccoTanno123
Henderson is far too resistant to hard blows to actually go out cold...Guided by the רוח הקודש
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No doubt his right hand has been his money maker. But if you're his coach, you tell him to stand and trade in the hopes of landing it? He's going to eat a lot of punches AND kicks. At least if he tries to take him down he has the chance of scoring points. On their feet I see Jones taking every round.Originally Posted by HardGainer82
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idk about that.. seemed like he rocked Hendo pretty good before getting the choke, im not so sure he couldn't have got the tko eventually.Originally Posted by HardGainer82
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I disagree...Originally Posted by Mogambo
If it stays standing, that will actually be a closer fight than Jones would like...
Jones must take down Henderson if he hopes to finish him...Guided by the רוח הקודש
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08-07-2012, 03:14 PM #29I throw spinning sh*t
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He's going to eat a lot of shots regardless. Luckily, that's kinda what he's known for. He's not going to outwrestle Bones, and he's going to run right into the guillotine at some point (yes, I know he's a greco guy). On the feet Jones will outpoint him, but he could also put Jon to sleep.Originally Posted by Mogambo
You're coming at this wrong; Hendo ain't winning by decision.
But he didn't. A guy with incredible accuracy and 60% tko's on his record, CHOSE to go for the choke.Originally Posted by jamez123
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08-07-2012, 03:16 PM #30Registered User
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No way is Bones going to stand and trade with Hendo for 5 rounds this will be classic Greg Jackson all the way, play it safe. Bones will stay clear of the H-bomb by setting up clinch/takedowns very early, Hendo is going to spend a lot of time on his back and will either be TKO'd or submitted by the 2nd round.
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