Any legit HGH supps out there?

[Kybar]

I have heard alot about the HGH supplements and i know there is no way they will work as well as the real thing, but is there one out there that shows results? Im extremely curious on this subject, and would love to try one, but are they scams or is there a legit supplement out there equal to or close to HGH??

[T-1]

Originally Posted by Kybar

is there a legit supplement out there equal to or close to HGH??

The answer to that one is pretty easy; no there is none, at all, ever

Anything else than the real thing if youre looking for muscle is a waste of money. Growth hormones are not to be played around with anyways. Of course optimal levels are healthy, but thats also all they are.. a pluss on the healthside.

No need to look further into this until you hit like 50-60 and want to.. renew yourself a bit

[N4cer]

The best way to increase GH is to buy some GH. 5iu ED.

[Kybar]

I have just noticed so many GH products on the market, yet none have reviews. So pretty much unless you use the real HGH there is not even a booster?

[chasinSKURT]

BluePrint by MAN

[T-1]

Originally Posted by Kybar

I have just noticed so many GH products on the market, yet none have reviews. So pretty much unless you use the real HGH there is not even a booster?

Your (anterior)pituitary gland can never ever be optimized by a supplement to put out something that would even come close to pinning Jintropin, just as your leydig cells in your testicles can never come close naturally in comparison to an exogenous source of testosterone. Its a somewhat simple equation

[Vitruvian]

So supplements can't quite accomplish what illegals can. This is known.

[MikeCellucor]

I think over a very long period extra boost to GH secretion, or at least avoiding things that can hinder it can make a difference, but I do not think that it can make a huge difference in a short period, possibly in the long run...just icing on the cake, IMO.

I would say recovery and fat loss are the things most enhanced by natural sectragogues. Again over say atleast 8-12 weeks. The Gaba related products I seem to do well with, and some cross over between N.O. and GH, like Picamilon (niacin/gaba), and obviously arginines. There is one cannibinoid related product I have tried ( no not pot, haha) that seems to do something, but I can never put my finger on it, because its combined with a few other ingredients.

IGF-1 is the winner anyway...haha

[chasinSKURT]

Originally Posted by Vitruvian

So supplements can't quite accomplish what illegals can. This is known.

This is true... but... BluePrint by MAN is actually one of my favorite products. Agmatine is documented to boost natural GH pulses. And the inclusion of R-ALA would lower blood glucose further potentiating GH secretions.

[N4cer]

Originally Posted by Kybar

I have just noticed so many GH products on the market, yet none have reviews. So pretty much unless you use the real HGH there is not even a booster?

That's correct.

Originally Posted by T-1

Your (anterior)pituitary gland can never ever be optimized by a supplement to put out something that would even come close to pinning Jintropin, just as your leydig cells in your testicles can never come close naturally in comparison to an exogenous source of testosterone. Its a somewhat simple equation

Exactly, and Jintropin is a commonly accepted sucky brand at that.

Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

This is true... but... BluePrint by MAN is actually one of my favorite products. Agmatine is documented to boost natural GH pulses. And the inclusion of R-ALA would lower blood glucose further potentiating GH secretions.

Documented by and how many times?

[Yates Row T]

Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

This is true... but... BluePrint by MAN is actually one of my favorite products. Agmatine is documented to boost natural GH pulses. And the inclusion of R-ALA would lower blood glucose further potentiating GH secretions.

not to mention the increased LH which i can vouch for bc of the boys "dropping"

[Vitruvian]

Originally Posted by chasinSKURT

This is true... but... BluePrint by MAN is actually one of my favorite products. Agmatine is documented to boost natural GH pulses. And the inclusion of R-ALA would lower blood glucose further potentiating GH secretions.

My bad... I failed to quote the comment by T-1 directly above me. I was making my statement in a somewhat sarcastic manner. T-1 is a rep for s supplement company, yet he seemed to use a broad comment to say supplements don't work.

[RB12]

Let me try and provide some additional information, but I will preempt this by noting that I am far from one of the great scientific minds on this board.

Agmatine (one of the primary ingredients in Blueprint) stimulates luteinizing hormone releasing-hormone (LHRH) and luteinizing hormone (LH). LH in turn can stimulate testosterone from the testes. The relationship between agmatine and GH release is such that in normal growth hormone releasing-hormone (GHRH), arginine can be supplemented or replaced by agmatine in its position and the GHRH analog is far more potent in stimulating the release of GH.

Many articles are cited on the Blueprint sales page:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/man/blue.htm
Of which Joey used in the r&d of the product.

Here are some additional articles as well. Please note that Joey, the owner of MAN and the teams with which he works does well to produce products that are formulated based on real science and r&d, not simply thrown together based on a hodge-podge of what is popular now. That is simply to say that the products are dosed and formulated with the highest care for the consumer in mind

Roberge, S., et al. Evaluation of the biological potency of new agmatine analogs of growth hormone-releasing hormone in the brain. Proceedings of the Society for Experimental Biology and Medicine. May 1992; 200(1):109-114.

Zarandi M, Serfozo P, Zsigo J, Deutch AH, Janaky T, Olsen DB, Bajusz S, Schally AV. Potent agonists of growth hormone-releasing hormone. II. Pept Res. 1992 Jul-Aug;5(4):190-3.

Kovacs, M. et al. An evaluation of intravenous, subcutaneous, and in vitro activity of new agmatine analogs of growth hormone-releasing hormone hGH-RH (1-29)NH2. Life Sciences. 1988. 42(1):27-35.

[N4cer]

Considering that even 2-3iu per day of real GH isn't very impressive, why would anybody think that an OTC "GH releaser" is going to be noticeable? It won't, so all the quoted rare studies in the world are useless.

[JuiceMasterFlex]

I took GH for a solid year... now i have..



Check out them sick calves and solid hammies.

[toadlylost]

Considering that I'm doing research on HGH vs test for my son, this has to be one of the most interesting exchanges and informative that I've come across thus far. He's 18 and wanting a boost in the gym after a string of "beach football" injuries. Two years in a row and on both shoulders he's managed to seperate the tendons just short of needing surgery. Not wanting to give up on football he's been in the gym ever since the doc cleared him. He continues to tell me that he just doesn't feel the "boost" that he once did and seems to think that one of the two would help him get back into the gym full force. I have issues with what I know of testosterone boosters yet know next to nothing about Hgh supplements. From what I understand of the hgh it would assist him in recovery from the gym and possibly give him the "mental belief" that it's getting him past his injuries. I'll be the first one to admit that I'd rather spend a pretty penny on a placebo if it made him believe mentally that it was working....we've all heard the mind over matter argument I'm sure. My question is simply this: the supplements that you can find here on bodybuilding.com or gnc as low a dosage as I'm "understanding" they are....would they have a negative or positive result?

[TMac26]

Originally Posted by JuiceMasterFlex

I took GH for a solid year... now i have..



Check out them sick calves and solid hammies.

I seriously laughed for like 10 min

[antbanks]

Originally Posted by toadlylost

Considering that I'm doing research on HGH vs test for my son, this has to be one of the most interesting exchanges and informative that I've come across thus far. He's 18 and wanting a boost in the gym after a string of "beach football" injuries. Two years in a row and on both shoulders he's managed to seperate the tendons just short of needing surgery. Not wanting to give up on football he's been in the gym ever since the doc cleared him. He continues to tell me that he just doesn't feel the "boost" that he once did and seems to think that one of the two would help him get back into the gym full force. I have issues with what I know of testosterone boosters yet know next to nothing about Hgh supplements. From what I understand of the hgh it would assist him in recovery from the gym and possibly give him the "mental belief" that it's getting him past his injuries. I'll be the first one to admit that I'd rather spend a pretty penny on a placebo if it made him believe mentally that it was working....we've all heard the mind over matter argument I'm sure. My question is simply this: the supplements that you can find here on bodybuilding.com or gnc as low a dosage as I'm "understanding" they are....would they have a negative or positive result?

You should buy him this: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/dopamuc.html

[TMac26]

Originally Posted by toadlylost

Considering that I'm doing research on HGH vs test for my son, this has to be one of the most interesting exchanges and informative that I've come across thus far. He's 18 and wanting a boost in the gym after a string of "beach football" injuries. Two years in a row and on both shoulders he's managed to seperate the tendons just short of needing surgery. Not wanting to give up on football he's been in the gym ever since the doc cleared him. He continues to tell me that he just doesn't feel the "boost" that he once did and seems to think that one of the two would help him get back into the gym full force. I have issues with what I know of testosterone boosters yet know next to nothing about Hgh supplements. From what I understand of the hgh it would assist him in recovery from the gym and possibly give him the "mental belief" that it's getting him past his injuries. I'll be the first one to admit that I'd rather spend a pretty penny on a placebo if it made him believe mentally that it was working....we've all heard the mind over matter argument I'm sure. My question is simply this: the supplements that you can find here on bodybuilding.com or gnc as low a dosage as I'm "understanding" they are....would they have a negative or positive result?

Our coach would've booted us off the team for playin pick up bball let alone "beach football"

[MBSowards]

Originally Posted by toadlylost

Considering that I'm doing research on HGH vs test for my son, this has to be one of the most interesting exchanges and informative that I've come across thus far. He's 18 and wanting a boost in the gym after a string of "beach football" injuries. Two years in a row and on both shoulders he's managed to seperate the tendons just short of needing surgery. Not wanting to give up on football he's been in the gym ever since the doc cleared him. He continues to tell me that he just doesn't feel the "boost" that he once did and seems to think that one of the two would help him get back into the gym full force. I have issues with what I know of testosterone boosters yet know next to nothing about Hgh supplements. From what I understand of the hgh it would assist him in recovery from the gym and possibly give him the "mental belief" that it's getting him past his injuries. I'll be the first one to admit that I'd rather spend a pretty penny on a placebo if it made him believe mentally that it was working....we've all heard the mind over matter argument I'm sure. My question is simply this: the supplements that you can find here on bodybuilding.com or gnc as low a dosage as I'm "understanding" they are....would they have a negative or positive result?

The "HGH" products that you can buy here aren't necessarily in "low dosages" as much as they just don't do anything.

If you were considering just buying him some placebo to make him think something was working (not something I would consider if it involved my child getting over an injury, to be honest) then HGH would pretty much fit the placebo bill.

Maybe your son is pushing it too hard in the gym to reach his goals and that is why he's burnt out? It could also be related to his amounts of rest and his diet.

There are a lot of things you should consider before trying to help him get over an injury plateau with placebo.