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StarChem Labs Armageddon and Evolution X10 Log
hey guys i was given on opp. to run a log/review of both Armageddon and Evolution X10. ill be starting this log on monday Feb 9. ill be leaving town on training next week so im gonna hold off on the log. Im waiting to hear back from Geroge (StarChem Prez) before i start but if i dont hear back from him ill be running on monday. George is a pretty buisy guy so sometime is takes a little time for him to get back to me. but anyways enough about that. so this is what i got
I recieved on bottle of Orange flavored Armageddon and one bottle of Lemonade X10. I just want to point out that these bottles are of their newest versions. they are new and imporved both the formula and taste. That is what George told me. I have taken both supplements in the past (about a year or so ago) and was not impressed with their taste at all. they were actually quite gross. But i do want to mention that they worked as promised. so im looking foward to seeing how these new products stack up. im not sure if im gonna be able to get on here every day to log these but that was discussed with George before hand. ill will get on here at least 3 times a week, but hopefully more. so this is a little bit about the products
Armageddon is a pre workout "pump and grown formula" this is the orange flavor.
920 Grams Fruit Punch
Supplement Facts
Serving Size23G(1scoop)
Servings Per Container40
Amount Per Serving % DV*
Calories 48
Calories From Fat 0
Total Fat 0g 0%
Saturated Fat 0g 0%
Trans Fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Total Carbohydrate 8g 3%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Sugars 0g
Vitamin B6(Pyridoxine HCL) 36mg 1,800%
Vitamin B12 (Methylcobalamin(& Cyanocobalamin) 500mcg 8,333%
Magnesium(as Magnesium Phosphate) 40mg 10%
Phosphorus(as Magnesium Phosphate) 51mg 5%
Sodium(as Sodium Chloride) 160mg 7%
Armageddon Proprietary Blend 23,000mg *
GeneFusion? - Hypergrowth Mind, Body Expansion Matrix [Micronized Creatine Monohydrate, L-Leucine, Taurine, Creatine Citrate, L-Arginine, L-Tyrosine, Guanipro? (Guanidino Propionic Acid), Caffeine Anhydrous, L-Carnitine Fumarate, Isoleucine, Valine, Beta-Alanine, Histidine, Proline, Cinnulin?, DMAE, Rhodiola Rosea Extract, Vinpocetine]
HydroTrans? - Instant & Sustained Myo-Hypertrophic Energy Matrix [Methylcelltrin Sustain? (Proprietary Maltodextrin/Methylcellulose Complex), Glucose, Glycerol, Fibersol II?, 4-Hydroxyisoleucine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Chromium Polynicotinate]
Evolution x10 - lemonade is a intra/post workout fromula
1.23 Lbs. Grape
Supplement Facts
Serving Size1Scoop(28g)
Servings Per Container20
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value?
Calories 36
Calories From Fat 0
Total Fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Total Carbohydrate 3g 1%
Dietary Fiber 0mg 0%
Sugars 0mg
Protein 6g 12%
Vitamin B6(as Pyridoxal 5' Phosphate) 10mg 500%
Magnesium(as Creatine MagnaPower? Creatine Magnesium Chelate, Magnesium Glycyl Glutamine Chelate) 202.5mg 50%
Chromium(as Chelavite? Chromium Nicotinate-Glycinate Chelate) 20mcg 16%
AminoBolic Hyperhydration Complex? 24.5g *
[Replenish BCAA Matrix ( L-Leucine, L-Valine, L- Isoleucine), MagnaLoad Creatine Matrix ( Creatine Monohydrate, Creatine MagnaPower Glycerol), Whey ProteinHydrolysate, Whey Protein Isolate, Casein Hydrolysate, Magnesium Glycyle Glutamine, Chromium, Chelavite]
i plan on this for my workouts
monday- chest, tris, abs, cardio
tuesday - bis, back, cardio
wed - cardio, abs
thur - shoulders, lats traps delts cardio
friday - legs no cardio
weekends rest.
ill give current weight at the begining of each entry. im not gonna include my diet unless i get board. just the workout. and of course taste, mixability, pump, smell, you know the drill. well hopefully alot of people will subscribe to this log and help me through!!!
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02-09-2009, 07:31 PM
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ok so here goes to logg. i was told that i did not need to log any workouts or meals but i think that im gonna post my workouts so that everyone can see any improvements. so today was day number one like i had said before. so here it is. i have taken both supplements in the past and was not impressed with the mixabilty or the taste. well i should state the after taste. they would not mix up and stay settled at the bottom of the shaker. well that is not the case completely any longer. remember these are new and improved products of StarChem Labs. so i have high hopes
First off we have the Armageddon fruit punch flavored pre workout drink. i opened up the tub. it smelled like hawian punch. i filled my shaker with 20 oz of ice cold water. i dumped in two scoops and gave it just a cople of shakes, and most of it absorbed in the water. there was still some floating but a vast improvement from the old stuff. there were some chunks but not many. i then shook the crap out of it for 15 sec and wah la. it was good to go. i drank about half of it right away and then sat it down. i came back about 5 min later and there was some settling but then i shook it and chugged down the rest of it. there was a little bit of grit in the last couple of gulps but like i have stated before a vast improvement. the taste is as it smells. great. there was a little bit of a bitter aftertaste but not bad. if it works as good as the old stuff it is easily overcame. i went to gym. when i got there i filled my shaker cup up again with 20 oz of water and put 1 scoop of Evolution x10 - lemonade in the cup and shook it up just a couple of times and the same thing just a little left floating around. i shook the crap out of it but no change. there was still some floating. but hey whay the hell ill give it a shot. about 1/2 of the way through the gym i stated to sip on it and then after my workout i slammed the rest. there was considerbly more grit with this one but the taste was again as good as it gets. actually it tasted like tart lemonaide. so not that bad. the were however a weird after taste. it was like if you have ever taken a super b vit complex and left it on your tounge for a min while you ran around tring to find something to drink. just the same taste. again it is something that could be over looked though. so here are my first thoughts in number form
Armageddon fruit punch
smell - 10/10
mixability 9/10
taste 9/10
overall 9/10
Evolution x10 - lemonade
smell - 10/10
mixability 7/10
taste 8/10 (the after taste is what makes it go down)
overall 9/10
okay so here was my workout
flat bench
225x20
270x10
315x10
350x4
375x4
400x1
225x20
incline bench
225x15
250x15
275x15
315x8
250x8
250x10
decline bench
225x20
260x10
315x10
350x10
375x6
400x4
315x10
dumbell flyes
80x12
90x12
110x12
80x12
pec deck
150x12
180x12
225x12
250x12
180x12
tris
cable pushdown v-bar
160x12
180x12
200x12
200x12
cable pushdown straight bar
150x12
170x12
190x12
200x12
skull crushers
120x12
140x12
160x12
165x10
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02-13-2009, 06:13 PM
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lat pulldown
180x15
200x10
250x10
250x8
200x13
row
200x10
250x10
300x10
200x15
one arm dumbell row
100x12
110x12
120x12
100x12
back flys
150x12
170x12
190x10
150x13
one arm dumbell standing curls
65x12
85x10
90x10
70x15
standing barbell curl
150x10
170x10
200x8
150x15
one arm concentration curl
65x10
70x10
80x10
65x10
today
squat
315x15, 350x10, 400x10, 450x10, 500x5
leg ext
200x12, 225x12, 250x10, 260x8
leg curl
225x12, 245x10, 255x8, 265x6
stainding calf raise
300x15, 300x15, 300x15
sitting calf raise
200x10, 200x10, 200x10
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02-13-2009, 07:40 PM
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so how are the effects?
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02-18-2009, 08:11 PM
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flat bench
225x20
270x10
315x10
350x4
375x4
410x1
225x20
incline bench
225x15
250x15
275x15
315x8
250x8
250x11
decline bench
225x20
260x10
315x10
350x10
375x6
400x4
315x8
dumbell flyes
80x12
90x12
110x15
80x12
pec deck
150x12
180x12
225x12
250x12
190x12
tris
cable pushdown v-bar
160x12
180x12
200x12
200x12
cable pushdown straight bar
150x12
170x12
190x12
200x13
skull crushers
120x12
140x12
160x12
165x10
ok so im still liking both products. i have noticed some increase in my recovery after my hard workouts. the next day soreness is down and that is something that i think that everyone is looking for because if you dont hurt the next day then you can hit the gym harder!!! so im happy witht eh taste and the mixability of both of the products. i have had products that mixed better but i can live with it. it is much better than it used to be. you used to have to chew it (kinda like for you old timmers when creatine drinks first came out all of that grit at the end) yeah kinda like that. well i gotta run see you tomorrow
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02-18-2009, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by leonidas300
so how are the effects?
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wow sorry i did not see your post. well like i have stated i am getting some good recovery post workout. for before training i get a pretty good focus and decent energy. i am getting some solid pumps throughout the workout and for a little while after hitting the gym but the huge thing for me is that i can hit the gym has hard as i can and then feel pretty good the next day so that i can actually walk up the stairs. LOL
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02-23-2009, 06:57 PM
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flat bench
225x20
270x10
315x10
350x4
375x4
400x1
225x20
incline bench
225x15
250x15
275x15
315x8
250x8
250x10
decline bench
225x20
260x10
315x10
350x10
375x6
400x4
315x10
dumbell flyes
80x12
90x12
110x12
80x12
pec deck
150x12
180x12
225x12
250x12
180x12
tris
cable pushdown v-bar
160x12
180x12
200x12
200x12
cable pushdown straight bar
150x12
170x12
190x12
200x12
skull crushers
120x12
140x12
160x12
165x10
exact same workout. i keep a log and ill do my same workout until it starts to geteasy for me then ill start adding reps and then weights. i am getting some great focus and pumps. again recovery is still really up there i dont feel that sore after myt workouts even the next day. that is a really big plus for me. the taste is still good and it still mixes like it did for the first shaker full
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02-24-2009, 06:54 PM
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hey i just recieved an email from george the prez for star chem. he was telling me that the things that i have reported seeing floating are actually good things. thing like lucine. he told me that when you see things that float that means that there are actually indgs in the porudct. "if it looks like gatoraide and tastes like gatoraide then that is what you have, gatoraide". so, but like i have stated before the things that float i dont ahve to chew they go down smooth and it is not like the whole powder does not dissolve. so im very pleased so far with these two products. nothing really bad to report. so here was today
back
lat pulldown
180x15
200x10
250x10
250x8
200x13
row
200x12
250x12
300x12
200x15
one arm dumbell row
100x12
110x12
120x12
100x12
back flys
150x12
170x12
190x10
150x13
one arm dumbell standing curls
65x12
85x10
90x12
70x15
standing barbell curl
150x10
170x10
200x10
150x15
one arm concentration curl
65x10
70x10
85x10
65x10
im really noticing some pretty good pumps that start within the first set and last all the way past getting home. the energy and focus are great, no crash or jitters just a clean rush. and with the x10, im getting great recovery.
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02-25-2009, 06:10 PM
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military press barbell
135x12, 150x12, 180x12, 225x6 245x3
lat raise with bumbell
45x12, 60x10, 65x10, 70x8
shrug with barbell
225x12, 250x12, 275x12, 315x6
front lat pulldown straight armed
60x12, 70x12, 80x12
front lat raise with dumbell
45x12, 60x10, 65x10, 70x8
cable crunches
80x30
80x30
80x30
leg raises
3 sets of 25
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02-25-2009, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dcso011006
wow sorry i did not see your post. well like i have stated i am getting some good recovery post workout. for before training i get a pretty good focus and decent energy. i am getting some solid pumps throughout the workout and for a little while after hitting the gym but the huge thing for me is that i can hit the gym has hard as i can and then feel pretty good the next day so that i can actually walk up the stairs. LOL 
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em watchin. looks like you are getting good pumps out of this ****e. keep it up
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03-04-2009, 07:24 PM
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yeah im getting pretty good pumps but the recovery is what im diggin the most. i have tomorrow left for the test. i was told by starchem that i did not have to keep a workout log but just a final review but i thought that when i could get on here that i would make a post. so that is why i have not been on here every day because i really did not even need to do this but i thought that when i had to get on the computer that i would make a post so that you guys can see mroe first hand the effects of the starchem products.
flat bench
225x20
270x10
320x10
350x4
375x4
400x1
225x20
incline bench
225x15
250x15
275x15
315x8
250x8
250x10
decline bench
225x20
260x10
315x10
350x10
375x6
400x4
315x10
dumbell flyes
80x12
90x12
120x10
80x12
pec deck
150x12
180x12
225x12
250x15
180x12
tris
cable pushdown v-bar
160x12
180x12
200x12
200x12
cable pushdown straight bar
150x12
170x12
190x12
200x12
skull crushers
120x12
140x12
160x12
165x10
my workouts have stayed pretty close to the same in terms of weight and reps but my heavy sets have gone up a little on a few different exercises. but the thing that im liking when im in the gym is that i normally spend about 1.5 hours working out now im in and out in about 45 to 55 min. the intensity is through the roof. this stuff is becoming one of my favorites not on taste alone but because they actually work. i should be able to get on here tomorrow and post my workout and then ill get on here at a later date and give my final review of these two products from starchem labs
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03-09-2009, 07:07 PM
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well i thought that i was going to be able to get on here the other day but i was not. im just finishing my thoughts for the log and ill be posting my final review in a couple of days. i had a little time so that i could get on here but it is a little after 2000 and i have to be at work at 2030 so i have to jet. ill make my review soon
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03-11-2009, 11:41 AM
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How did you like the Evolution X10?
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03-22-2009, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcso011006
the next day soreness is down and that is something that i think that everyone is looking for because if you dont hurt the next day then you can hit the gym harder!!! so im happy witht eh taste and the mixability of both of the products. i have had products that mixed better but i can live with it. it is much better than it used to be. you used to have to chew it (kinda like for you old timmers when creatine drinks first came out all of that grit at the end) yeah kinda like that. well i gotta run see you tomorrow
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I've had awesome pumps and increased vascularity from old product. recovery was good evolution Lol at floaties . I experienced that and the occasional crunch~and I do believe its the leucine in the bcaa's as I have experience that with similar products
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