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    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    That's exactly what I tried pointing out.. to each their own.
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    Originally Posted by SquatTilYouDrop View Post
    I read your full post. That's what drew me into the commentary of it. I don't believe it's too much overlapping. Neither does the person you addressed. And more to the point. The results speak for themselves.
    Unfortunately you're too close-minded to see past your own opinions. You're claiming that somehow your opinion towers over anothers opinion; and why? I don't remember claiming that overlapping will prevent results? Again, jumping to conclusions; surprise surprise. If he prevents such overlapping(possible overtraining, even) he may see even more results. Get it? I know it's hard to comprehend, but sit back and re-read several times.. I'm sure you'll eventually soak it up grasshopper.
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Wow, strong lack of sarcasm awareness.
    Not at all, I just stand by my opinion.. what a surprise
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    I do

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    off
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    I don't see what legs exercise would cut into chest day, of all the possible overlaps I think thats the least to worry about.
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    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    That's exactly what I tried pointing out.. to each their own.
    Haha, it's just not on the radar of concerns like deads/squats are bud.
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    To OP:

    I think this would only be an issue if you are doing some massive squats, like PR day, and using a low bar squat technique. You can really put alot of stress on the pecs and shoulders holding a heavy barbell in position.

    But, if you feel ok to do chest, go ahead do it.

    I found that I would sometimes get a cramp in my hamstring when benching the day after heavy legs. This is dependant on how much leg drive you use and foot placement though.
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    I would like to see this said article. (from the op)

    but yes... I always hit Legs on monday when i'm fresh off 2 days rest, followed by chest, off, back, shoulders, off, off.
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    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    Unfortunately you're too close-minded to see past your own opinions. You're claiming that somehow your opinion towers over anothers opinion; and why? I don't remember claiming that overlapping will prevent results? Again, jumping to conclusions; surprise surprise. If he prevents such overlapping(possible overtraining, even) he may see even more results. Get it? I know it's hard to comprehend, but sit back and re-read several times.. I'm sure you'll eventually soak it up grasshopper.
    I'm not the one using the word "horrible" pointing to someone else's "successful" program. You are!! I find it arrogant of you to think your way will improve on something that isn't broken. I give people the freedom to explore for themselves what will and what will not work for them.

    You're hypothesizing he may see superior results from your plan. He also may not. Why tinker with something that is working? If it wasn't then maybe he should move in another direction. But at this time, It's working.
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    Originally Posted by I_Need_Vertical View Post
    So since i've started seriously lifting, i always did a hard leg day and always followed by chest the next. day I read an article on here saying that's a no no, any truth to that?
    no truth to it.
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    if your spent the next day after doing legs, youre doing it wrong. theres a difference between having sore legs and having less energy. post your routine. and if ur gunna get so upset go over to the womens section.

    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    I may have come off the wrong way, even though I had thrown in "no offense".. but here is my reasoning, as simple as it is:

    Day 1: Legs
    Day 2: Chest
    Day 3: Arms
    Day 4: Shoulders
    Day 5: Back
    Day 6: Off
    Day 7: Off

    I don't know about you, but I'm pretty spent after a good leg workout, and that can continue into the next day. Chest is a pretty important day as well. Now, I'm not sure what you incorporate into your chest workout, but I'm pretty sure you have at least 2 chest presses; these work the triceps pretty hard to be expecting an arms day the following day. Also, your front delts are hit hard on a chest day, and 2 days later to be working shoulders again.. I wouldn't feel like they were fully recovered. And again.. a good back workout definitely involves a lot of biceps, which you had just worked 2 days prior.

    Just an opinion, just figured I would throw it out there.. god forbid. It's all about being open-minded.
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    Originally Posted by zildjian_4 View Post
    if your spent the next day after doing legs, youre doing it wrong. theres a difference between having sore legs and having less energy. post your routine. and if ur gunna get so upset go over to the womens section.
    Why would you make us women suffer by having this guy show up?

    Not cool. We have enough e-tards coming in telling us not to lift, the last thing we need is someone telling us what we are doing is horrible.
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    Originally Posted by norinicole View Post
    Why would you make us women suffer by having this guy show up?

    Not cool. We have enough e-tards coming in telling us not to lift, the last thing we need is someone telling us what we are doing is horrible.
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    Originally Posted by zildjian_4 View Post
    if your spent the next day after doing legs, youre doing it wrong. theres a difference between having sore legs and having less energy. post your routine. and if ur gunna get so upset go over to the womens section.
    The CNS can get pretty beat up from leg day, IME. This has on occasion affected my shoulder workout the next day.
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    Too many close-minded morons floating around in this thread.
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    Originally Posted by SquatTilYouDrop View Post
    I'm not the one using the word "horrible" pointing to someone else's "successful" program. You are!! I find it arrogant of you to think your way will improve on something that isn't broken. I give people the freedom to explore for themselves what will and what will not work for them.

    You're hypothesizing he may see superior results from your plan. He also may not. Why tinker with something that is working? If it wasn't then maybe he should move in another direction. But at this time, It's working.
    LMAO.. I never even SUGGESTED a routine you moron, nor did I state mine was superior. I feel sorry for you man, you won't get much out of life living in such a box as you do. Good luck.
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    Originally Posted by zildjian_4 View Post
    if your spent the next day after doing legs, youre doing it wrong. theres a difference between having sore legs and having less energy. post your routine. and if ur gunna get so upset go over to the womens section.
    Actually, if your leg workout has never affected your following day then I suggest you vamp up your leg workout, sweetheart.
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    Originally Posted by norinicole View Post
    Why would you make us women suffer by having this guy show up?

    Not cool. We have enough e-tards coming in telling us not to lift, the last thing we need is someone telling us what we are doing is horrible.
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    I am in the same situation.

    Im doing legs tonight and chest and triceps tomorrow.

    In terms of muscle fatigue...there shouldnt be an issue.

    The only negative I find from my experience is that i do a big workout for legs and a big workout for chest so being tired on a Saturday is the biggest problem I have.

    My training split is:

    Monday - Rest
    Tuesday - Shoulders
    Wednesday - Back and Bi's
    Thursday - Rest
    Friday - Legs
    Saturday - Chest and Triceps
    Sunday - Rest

    I have worked it this way so that before legs i have a rest day and after chest i have two rest days to recover sufficiently to get back into it the next week.

    I make sure that friday and saturday i have enough energy and carbs to do intense workouts...which is controlled through nutrition and diet.

    If your struggling in that regards then just make sure you have the juice (energy not steroids !!!) to do both workouts efficiently.
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    Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick View Post
    The CNS can get pretty beat up from boot-leg booze day, IME. This has on occasion affected my shoulder workout the next day.
    You keep drinking that sht and you'll go blind you know?
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    Originally Posted by Drekkor View Post
    No insult was taken, pretty much any half-decent routine can get someone results. Rev's pretty cut up - looks fine imo, but yeah... if he tries to add another 30-40lbs he might sing a different tune... or maybe not, or maybe not lean... tough to say until he does it imo.
    Great attitude man. Your program is getting you great results. Maybe your body responds well to overlap. I use the same split, but different order:

    Sunday: Legs
    Monday: off
    Tuesday: Chest
    Wednesday: off
    Thursday: Back
    Friday: Shoulders
    Saturday: Arms

    My off days are unfortunately dictated by non workout related stuff. I'd rather have them on different days.

    Maybe I should try your order.

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    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    No offense, but personally.. that's a horrible setup for a routine; way too much overlapping imo
    i agree. but if it works for you, its all good
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    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    that's a horrible setup for a routine
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    For the love of God.. grow up and read a full post.
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    Get it? I know it's hard to comprehend, but sit back and re-read several times.. I'm sure you'll eventually soak it up grasshopper.
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    Too many close-minded morons floating around in this thread.
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    LMAO.. I never even SUGGESTED a routine you moron, nor did I state mine was superior. I feel sorry for you man, you won't get much out of life living in such a box as you do. Good luck.
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    Actually, if your leg workout has never affected your following day then I suggest you vamp up your leg workout, sweetheart.
    Outstanding!!!
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    Outstanding!!!
    I love how you pull it all of of context! OUTSTANDING!!! GG =P
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    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    Actually, if your leg workout has never affected your following day then I suggest you vamp up your leg workout, sweetheart.
    Maybe you should vamp your diet, sleep habits, water intake, and leg workout. We arent always sore, most of us who lift hard wont let some leg soreness interfere with our other workouts.

    sweetheart.

    You're acting like a child, stop.
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    Originally Posted by Kevin Miller View Post
    Maybe your body responds well to overlap.
    Assuming all muscle groups take exactly one week to fully recover w/out risk of overtraining on top of other assumptions..
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    Originally Posted by DontRevMe View Post
    Maybe you should vamp your diet, sleep habits, water intake, and leg workout. We arent always sore, most of us who lift hard wont let some leg soreness interfere with our other workouts.

    sweetheart.

    You're acting like a child, stop.
    Oh it's all up to par baby, I promise.
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    My old routine i was overlapping a lot... i didnt make great gains.

    but on my current routine i have noticed good gains.

    Monday - Legs
    Tuesday - Off
    Wednesday - Chest\Tri
    Thursday - Back\Bi
    Friday - Off
    Saturday - Shoulders
    Sunday - Off
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    Originally Posted by MrLJizzle View Post
    My old routine i was overlapping a lot... i didnt make great gains.

    but on my current routine i have noticed good gains.

    Monday - Legs
    Tuesday - Off
    Wednesday - Chest\Tri
    Thursday - Back\Bi
    Friday - Off
    Saturday - Shoulders
    Sunday - Off
    Very similar to mine, this eliminates any possible overlapping.. but be careful trying to make a suggestion
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    Originally Posted by rivet0r View Post
    Oh it's all up to par baby, I promise.
    Your attempts to back pedal and cover any gaps in between any sort of a point you thought you created is proving that clearly... you AREN'T up to par.

    You're arguing with someone who has 40 pounds of muscle mass and less height than you that his routine is too much.

    Whatever you are doing is clearly not enough.
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    And to thread starter - your legs will be used to walk your butt from exercise to exercise after leg day and to POSSIBLY stabilize you.

    You won't have any issues really with leg day interfering after with your chest exercises.

    I always have an off day after leg day. And leg day is the last in my cycle (and the most dreaded) and I see improvements every single cycle. After off day is chest day, and while my legs are the MOST sore on day two, I have no issues.
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