Deadlift question

[BallroomTed]

On back days do you preform deadlifts at the beginning or end of the workout?

Should I wipe myself out with deads at the beginning or try to fight thru them at the end.

Thanks!

[Minotaur]

Depends on what the rest of your routine is like. I always preferred doing deads first; they get the major work done. The others are assistance, imo.

[sytennison]

I've always deadlifted first on back day. It makes the rest of the workout seem easy by comparison.

[chodan9]

I have been doing hammer grip pullups first to kind of acclimate my body the workout, they aren't too stressful and since deads dont hit the arms too directly the pullups dont seem to interfere with my deads, I save the wide grip pullups for later in the workout.

I was always a dead first guy. But if I had to do it over again I would do them at the end.

[snoack]

I do them 2nd-

shrugs 1st
DLs 2nd
chainsaw pulls 3rd
BORs last

[jtroster]

Before deadlifts I like to do some kind of upper back warm-up first such as pulldowns.

[BallroomTed]

Originally Posted by aneas

I was always a dead first guy. But if I had to do it over again I would do them at the end.

It's never too late to start over! :-)

[chodan9]

Originally Posted by snoack

I do them 2nd-

shrugs 1st
DLs 2nd
chainsaw pulls 3rd
BORs last

sometimes I think I do too many excercises!

[ironwill2008]

I place them according to just which part of my back I intend to emphasize, during, say, a two month period. If, during that time, I feel my upper back needs more emphasis, I'll put deadlifts last. If I feel lower/overall needs more work, deads go first. It's all a matter of prioritizing your training; whatever is your weaker area should get the most effort.

[DNG]

Originally Posted by chodan9

I have been doing hammer grip pullups first to kind of acclimate my body the workout, they aren't too stressful and since deads dont hit the arms too directly the pullups dont seem to interfere with my deads, ...

Exactly what I do.

Weighted hammer grip pullups first, deads second, and the rest seems to be relatively easy.

Originally Posted by BallroomTed

It's never too late to start over! :-)

Unfortunately thats not true in my case. If you have disk compression you cant undo the damage that you have done.

[snoack]

Originally Posted by chodan9

sometimes I think I do too many excercises!

I'm doing a 3 day split right now comprised of nothing but large combo exercises. Seems to be working pretty good so far.

[gneal]

I do them at the end of my workouts, I'm too exausted to do anything after deads. But I make sure I'm not worn out to do them, I can't imagine trying to do deads and being tired.

Greg

[torn8o]

First thing ... they take everything I've got and use a lot more muscle groups. I always start with the largest muscle group and work my way down.

[asf_mtb]

I've been doing deadlifts on leg day right after squats because they make me feel more worn out in the hips, glutes and hamstrings than my back.

Anyone else do them on leg day? Bad idea?

[Todd_A]

I do them on a day completely by themselves. But when I did them on back day with other exercises I liked to do them first because I didn't want to risk injury due to having certain muscles worn out from the other exercises and end up squirming around trying to get a rep in and tweak something and be down for a long period of time.

[sytennison]

Originally Posted by asf_mtb

I've been doing deadlifts on leg day right after squats because they make me feel more worn out in the hips, glutes and hamstrings than my back.

Anyone else do them on leg day? Bad idea?

I've been on a couple of different programs where deadlifts came after squats. It worked well except for having to listen to the little voice in my head saying, "What in the hell are you doing to yourself?" every time I stepped up to the bar.

[chodan9]

Originally Posted by snoack

I'm doing a 3 day split right now comprised of nothing but large combo exercises. Seems to be working pretty good so far.

going for strength gains?

[bodyhard]

I would never do deads last NEVER, that is just insane. If you are truly doing deadlifts i.e triples or singles, no way will you have the strength to give it your all at the end of a workout.

IMO if you are doing deads at the very end of your workout you aren't doing deads.

Now doing them second, like after pull-ups I can see but last, no f'cking way.

[BasilExposition]

I always do my heavy lifts first and then use the isolation exercise as finishers. When I do deads, I am also doing either leg presses or squats, so I do those first. Then I do a "rest exercise" in between to catch my breath, such as calf exercise. So I guess I do them third--unless the racks are busy, then I do them when I can. I guess this post isn't very helpful.

[wulf88]

I do Pendlay Rows or DB Rows first, then deads second. I have found that I am actually stronger doing it this way throughout the whole workout.

[Dr Clay]

You can benefit by doing them 1st, last, or anywhere in between. By doing them first you'll be able to use more weight. So if improving your deadlift numbers is a goal, do them first.

Doing them last will enable you to train hard and tax your back, but without having to use as much weight. Although you may grow as well doing it this way (and it's arguably safer), it's not optimal if maximum strength in the deadlift is your goal.

Best,

[BallroomTed]

Thanks for all the great tips everyone!

My main goal is size, which sorta goes with strength.

Suppose I will warm up some and start hitting the deads first, then rows!

[BrotherWolf]

Originally Posted by BallroomTed

On back days do you preform deadlifts at the beginning or end of the workout?

Should I wipe myself out with deads at the beginning or try to fight thru them at the end.

Thanks!

I do them last after squats but I am not doing a typical BB split ... you should try both and see which is best fitting into your routine

[BrotherWolf]

Originally Posted by BallroomTed

Thanks for all the great tips everyone!

My main goal is size, which sorta goes with strength.

Suppose I will warm up some and start hitting the deads first, then rows!

In that case I would do rows before deads and use the rows to warmup to it

[Old-Time-Lifter]

Originally Posted by sytennison

I've always deadlifted first on back day. It makes the rest of the workout seem easy by comparison.

Originally Posted by torn8o

First thing ... they take everything I've got and use a lot more muscle groups. I always start with the largest muscle group and work my way down.

That would be my answer as well.

If you're too wiped out after deads, then just go home to rest.

[Fifty+]

Originally Posted by BallroomTed

On back days do you preform deadlifts at the beginning or end of the workout?

Should I wipe myself out with deads at the beginning or try to fight thru them at the end.

Thanks!

When I perform deads on back day, I do them first in rotation before bar rows. I like the fact that I can drop 100lbs. from the deadlift and my 150-165 lb. row doesn't seem as heavy as if I were to row first.

[boathead]

ugggh. i've struggled with this question over and over. ultimately, i cannot do them first, as i crawl into the fetal position at the end, and that's the end of my work out. i cannot do them last, as i need every bit of energy for them.

and so, i just do them by themselves. deads get their own day for me.

[SP1966]

Ugh, I have been patiently awaiting mikieson's arrival in this thread so he could set us all straight!

Always first for me. Granted, I don't have the years of experience with them that most here do, but I still could not imagine doing them, or squats as anything but the first exercie of the day!