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    front squat carryover?

    what kind of carryover will i get on my squat from my front squat work.

    Friday i worked my way up to doing 505 x 2 and my last squat max was 720. based on my current front what do you think my carry over is??
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    It depends how you squat and your individual strengths and weaknesses. Nobody can answer this better than you.
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    huh?

    I squat wide and i did the fronts with the same width of my feet
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    Originally Posted by whotime65 View Post
    huh?

    I squat wide and i did the fronts with the same width of my feet
    I truly don't see how it would hurt any, especially if your raw you can use the extra quad work
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    Originally Posted by test_titan92 View Post
    I truly don't see how it would hurt any, especially if your raw you can use the extra quad work
    yeah right now i am completely raw, no belt nor wraps
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    my core strength shot through the roof when i started front squating.


    I think more people should do them.

    Of course, my anterior leg strength has increased as well.
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    I don't think it will have much carryover to low bar back squat, maybe high bar back squat. It doesn't hurt to do them though and they do have good benefits, but I think main focus should be on the low bar back squat if you want that to increase.

    In order to get stronger at a lift you train that lift, doing push ups wont make you bench huge #'s ext.
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    Originally Posted by whotime65 View Post
    Yeah My Team Has Me Doing A Cycle Of Back Squat 2 Weeks, Front For 2 Weeks, And Zercher For 2 Weeks On Me Day Till My Meet
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    Originally Posted by DJSTARER View Post
    my core strength shot through the roof when i started front squating.
    Mostly, this.

    I mean it can help your raw max on squat. Build core, and quads.

    It's helped my deadlift alot though.
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    Originally Posted by skinnycalves View Post
    i cant wait to see the videos of your meet
    thanks bro, ill be recording and posting it up.

    Originally Posted by Deadliftking View Post
    Mostly, this.

    I mean it can help your raw max on squat. Build core, and quads.

    It's helped my deadlift alot though.

    well i need help on my deads and i figure front squating cant be bad for squating right...lol
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    Originally Posted by Deadliftking View Post
    It's helped my deadlift alot though.
    it's interesting you should say that. My deadlift seems unusually strong these days, and it just so happens I integrated front squats into my sheiko cycle only 2 months ago....

    i wonder if there really is a correlation. Obviously there is for you...

    what DL stance do you use?
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    I get more deadlift help that squat help from front squats. But then my front squat stance is closer to my deadlift stance than my squat stance.

    Maybe I could type stance one more time.
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    Never experienced any carryover to my back squat. I did front squats exclusively for about two months, and got them higher than my back squat. My deadlift went up too, but I was doing a ton of deadlift work at the time.
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    it wont help imo, only helped my d/l like every1 else saying
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    if you squat oly style yes, if you squat pl style probably not much
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    Originally Posted by DJSTARER View Post
    my core strength shot through the roof when i started front squating.


    I think more people should do them.

    Of course, my anterior leg strength has increased as well.
    Could you please elaborate how exactly they helped you? Say like what was the weight you started front squatting initially and what was it when you noticed significant improvements? And what were the improvements specifically?

    I am thinking getting back to them to improve my back squats, I once worked them to 225x3 (from 95x5) but frankly did not notice much carry over to back squats, while the workouts themselves were extremely draining . - one of the reason I am reluctant to get back to them - so much effort expanded and not a lot of carryover to any of the main lifts
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    Originally Posted by Dark_MadMax View Post
    Could you please elaborate how exactly they helped you? Say like what was the weight you started front squatting initially and what was it when you noticed significant improvements? And what were the improvements specifically?

    I am thinking getting back to them to improve my back squats, I once worked them to 225x3 (from 95x5) but frankly did not notice much carry over to back squats, while the workouts themselves were extremely draining . - one of the reason I am reluctant to get back to them - so much effort expanded and not a lot of carryover to any of the main lifts
    depends on where you're weak and again the form on the main lifts, if one is doing a PL (or even a Rippetoe) style squat I don't you'll see much carryover
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    I get alot of carryover but I squat with lots of knee drift.

    I also noticed way more strength off the floor for DL's after doing FS's off a box consistently for a while.

    They are great for your core but the question there is whether you can justify fitting a move like that into your routine if it's just for the "core" benefits.

    I'm pretty sure I just parroted a bunch of stuff that has already been said... Crap.

    FS's are just another tool in the toolbox. Don't expect some kind of precise formula like 500x2 on fronts = 700 on back squats.

    I like front squats b/c I like strong quads. (THATS RIGHT I SAID QUADS YOU GOT A ****ING PROBLEM WITH THAT???!!)
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    cjdelaney's a homo for saying quads
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    Could you please elaborate how exactly they helped you? Say like what was the weight you started front squatting initially and what was it when you noticed significant improvements? And what were the improvements specifically?

    I am thinking getting back to them to improve my back squats, I once worked them to 225x3 (from 95x5) but frankly did not notice much carry over to back squats, while the workouts themselves were extremely draining . - one of the reason I am reluctant to get back to them - so much effort expanded and not a lot of carryover to any of the main lifts
    Since I began doing them, my front squat max has gone ~ 200 to about ~290. My backsquat, which I'll be posting a vid of soon, has grown hugely because I began front squating in conjunction (on purpose) with a form change with my comp squat. My raw comp squat may have increased 30-40 lbs in the last eight weeks because of this. The real test will be this friday when I test-out before my 12 week comp-peak cycle. I believe the greatest benefit will be my core strength, which will carry over the most with my equipped lifting.

    The deadlift is TBA. I'll let you know after April 25
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    Last night i hit a new PR of 535 on the front sqaut. I will be doing zerchers for the next 2 weeks then i will max on my squat. to set up my training for the end of MAY meet
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