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    NSCA Report On Nutrient Timing In Resistance Training

    In that, in general, it seems that a number of other studies tend to rely on data derived from endurance, repetitive activity to the point of severe glycogen depletion, I found this summary study based on heavy resistance training:

    http://www.nsca-lift.org/HotTopic/do...t%20Timing.pdf

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    It strikes me that they did not, for the purposes of this study, really put a lot of effort into discovering whether protein/carb supplementation outperformed just protein post workout. They looked more into the isolation of the two macronutrient groups.
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    Originally Posted by Ibballard View Post
    It strikes me that they did not, for the purposes of this study, really put a lot of effort into discovering whether protein/carb supplementation outperformed just protein post workout. They looked more into the isolation of the two macronutrient groups.
    c'mom
    like the average person aactually eats macronutrients in combination wit each other
    whats next people eating steak and potatoes or spaghetti and meatballs together
    ridiculous
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    Originally Posted by determined4000 View Post
    c'mom
    like the average person aactually eats macronutrients in combination wit each other
    whats next people eating steak and potatoes or spaghetti and meatballs together
    ridiculous
    What? The study looked at protein supplementation pre and post workout, and then at pure carbohydrate supplementation pre and post workout. The pure protein outperformed the pure carbohydrate, but it doesn't really indicate whether in a protein vs carbs vs protein-carb combo, the combo will outperform the protein alone.
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    Originally Posted by Ibballard View Post
    What? The study looked at protein supplementation pre and post workout, and then at pure carbohydrate supplementation pre and post workout. The pure protein outperformed the pure carbohydrate, but it doesn't really indicate whether in a protein vs carbs vs protein-carb combo, the combo will outperform the protein alone.
    i guess my sarcasm was missed
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    Originally Posted by BuckSpin View Post
    In that, in general, it seems that a number of other studies tend to rely on data derived from endurance, repetitive activity to the point of severe glycogen depletion, I found this summary study based on heavy resistance training:

    http://www.nsca-lift.org/HotTopic/do...t%20Timing.pdf

    Any thoughts/questions on the data presented?
    For some reason(my own experience i geuss), this study isn't too surprising. However, like the guys above were saying, the fact that they isolated the nutrients in the study limits the possible results.

    I'd like to see a study with carbs and protein pre-workout & protein post VS. Just protein pre and post.
    It seems obvious to me that they fail to notice the fact that Carbs are needed for extra energy in the gym, thus providing a harder workout, and thus increased results.

    Carbs=fuel to lift hard/Protein=fuel to recover quicker
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    I saw a study somewhere ( apologies I cannot reference ) that showed 2 studies showing supplementation with a glucose polymer + Hydrolyzed whey - 20g of each increased protein synthesis almost 20% when taken during workout .
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    This is the kind of study that makes me so annoyed. Protein builds muscle better than carbs? AMAZING!
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    Originally Posted by Seamless View Post
    This is the kind of study that makes me so annoyed. Protein builds muscle better than carbs? AMAZING!
    exactly, thanks for confirming what we already knew
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    Berardi covers all this fairly well in his "The Science of Nutrient Timing" found in the archives. He covers the carb/protein PWO nutrition issue really well...
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    Originally Posted by KLMARB View Post
    Berardi covers all this fairly well in his "The Science of Nutrient Timing" found in the archives. He covers the carb/protein PWO nutrition issue really well...
    He makes the common mistake that a lot of folks talking about nutrient timing do: they don't discuss its diminished importance given non-fasted conditions prior to training.
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