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Old 01-22-2009, 03:00 PM   #1
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I have taken the pack for 10 days, and it was seemingly going well. I lost cravings for snacks, and actually food, itself(for the first couple of days, i forced myself to eat out of fear), and I think i have lost some fat, and my skin was getting better, and i felt enough energy that I felt very well, taking the pack.

But from the 8 or 9th day, i noticed that I was getting very little sleep, less than 5 hours, and that I kept waking up every 2 hours, literally(on the first day when i started taking the pack, I could not sleep at all, and that was because of caffeine, I thought, and i tried to take the second pack as early as possible, before noon, and then i could sleep at night again), and that there came extreme dryness under one of eyes, and some small rash on my upper eye lid on the other eye.

I stopped taking the pack for 2 days now, and I took extra vitamin a and b and water for dryness. Everything seems getting better, again, but i noticed that my skin is getting worse, again, and that I feel no energy at all, and I got craving for snacks all again.

(1) My question is that, after you stopped taking the pack, how long do you have to wait till your body gets back to normal so that you can take any other medicine that might badly interact with the pack? It says wait one week before you take the second round of 21 days packs, but I am not sure if it applies to other medicine as well?

(2) Another question is that if it will be still effective in losing fat, as good as if I followed the instruction(21 continuous days) since i stopped taking only after 10 days, not 21 full days, if I start taking the rest again after a few days of pause?

(3) anybody has the kind of side effect I had in taking the packs?

(4) the reason I don't feel energy is because i stopped taking the pack? some kind of after effect or something? Is there some kind of energy booster or so that is safe enough? I have heap of work to do, and I feel like lying down all the time for two days now.

Would appreciate any comment on this. Thanks.
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:57 PM   #2
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I havent taken animal cuts, but have heard good things about it. i guess it affects everyone differently like all products. Just a question to you.. were you drinking plenty of water?
With the extra caffeine in your diet you really need to be drinking lots of water to flush out the caffeine.. that may be why you werent getting any sleep. i had the same problem with NO-Xplode; i started drinking lots more water and my sleeplessness dissapeared. just a suggestion
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:08 AM   #3
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I took the whole can of packs and missed a couple of doses. I'm not really sensitive to any of it though so the only thing I noticed was towards the end I started feeling like my weight was peeling away a bit. I've switched to a few other things and nothing has come close to the cuts for me. I never had any problems sleeping but I took my first pack at 5 am and my second by noon so I had no problems with it not wearing off before bed. Atro-phex is garbage for me. Same thing for most other products. Unfortunately you just have to blow the money til you find something you like. Good luck though. Also, taking the rest of the stack won't do any worse harm. You just won't get the continuous results you'd have if you took the whole can consistanty.
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:11 AM   #4
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I have taken the pack for 10 days, and it was seemingly going well. I lost cravings for snacks, and actually food, itself(for the first couple of days, i forced myself to eat out of fear), and I think i have lost some fat, and my skin was getting better, and i felt enough energy that I felt very well, taking the pack.

But from the 8 or 9th day, i noticed that I was getting very little sleep, less than 5 hours, and that I kept waking up every 2 hours, literally(on the first day when i started taking the pack, I could not sleep at all, and that was because of caffeine, I thought, and i tried to take the second pack as early as possible, before noon, and then i could sleep at night again), and that there came extreme dryness under one of eyes, and some small rash on my upper eye lid on the other eye.

I stopped taking the pack for 2 days now, and I took extra vitamin a and b and water for dryness. Everything seems getting better, again, but i noticed that my skin is getting worse, again, and that I feel no energy at all, and I got craving for snacks all again.

Feel free to take out the red stim pill if you have trouble sleeping. Also be sure to drink plenty of water.

(1) My question is that, after you stopped taking the pack, how long do you have to wait till your body gets back to normal so that you can take any other medicine that might badly interact with the pack? It says wait one week before you take the second round of 21 days packs, but I am not sure if it applies to other medicine as well? What medicine are you taking? If it is something with a prescription I would either a) Ask my doctor about it (best person to know) or b) wait at least 2-3 weeks. Be sure to drink plenty of water.

(2) Another question is that if it will be still effective in losing fat, as good as if I followed the instruction(21 continuous days) since i stopped taking only after 10 days, not 21 full days, if I start taking the rest again after a few days of pause? I firmly believe the effect will come more from your diet and cardio than from supplementation alone. You mentioned you had good results in 10 days before, so I am only guessing that you would have the same results with another 10-11 days.

(3) anybody has the kind of side effect I had in taking the packs? The sleeplessness is related to the caffeine... feel free to take out the red stim pill and see if you are still having these troubles

(4) the reason I don't feel energy is because i stopped taking the pack? some kind of after effect or something? Is there some kind of energy booster or so that is safe enough? I have heap of work to do, and I feel like lying down all the time for two days now.

This all relates to the caffeine. Have you been on caffeine for a while? Seems like you may have to ween off of it or you are just sensitive to stims. You could take a gradual dose of caffeine and decrease it daily till you are completely off of it and then be off stims for a while. That should help. Also GET MORE SLEEP.

Would appreciate any comment on this. Thanks.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:05 AM   #5
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Maybe im color blind but there was no red pill in my cuts .... there is one in my pump tho :0
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:16 AM   #6
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My biggest questions would be how much water are you taking in...? (Should be a gallon, minimum...) How much caffeine in other forms are you taking...? (Diet sodas, tea, pills, etc...) What's your diet like, and when was the last meal of the day, in relation to going to sleep...? What time of day do you normally train...? Any recent changes in stress levels...?
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My biggest questions would be how much water are you taking in...? (Should be a gallon, minimum...) How much caffeine in other forms are you taking...? (Diet sodas, tea, pills, etc...) What's your diet like, and when was the last meal of the day, in relation to going to sleep...? What time of day do you normally train...? Any recent changes in stress levels...?
Sorry for the delay! I haven't been able to check this site.

I stopped the pack for a while, a few months, and about 4 days ago I started again, and now I am having the same problem all again.

To answer your question, I am taking minimum 2 liter, I think, around 3 liter.
I am not taking caffeine in any other forms at all. i don't drink any soda, I drink caffeine free tea, and I don't take any medicine or pills. I only take multi vitamin. I knew caffeine did not agree with me, so I never really take anything that contains caffeine my whole life so far, except chocolate, once in a while.
My diet is pretty healthy low carbo diet. Last meal, about 6 hours before going to bed(and some snacks 3 hours before goign to bed, probably, not always).
No changes on stress level, always high demanding research.

Now my main problem is itching, rather than sleeplessness, because I eventually fall asleep even though I get up earlier than I would hope. But I work just fine without sleepy feelings during the day regardless of shorter sleep hours. So i am not that much concerned, knowing I will stop taking the pack in 3 weeks, and it will all go normal.
But this itching is killing me, especially around eyes, and on eye lid, and sometimes all over hte body(but it does not last long). If I don't touch it has no rash, but if I touch, or scratch, it becomes rash.
Last time I took the pack, for 9 days, one day when I got up, my eyes were swollen like mountains. I've never ever had such experiences before, so I immediately stopped taking the pack then.

Which one is red stim pill? I can't find red stim pill on the pack either! Which one is caffeine pill?
I suspect my liver is having very hard time to "digest" 9 pills and capsules at once twice in 4~6 hours interval for such long days...

Thanks!
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the caffeine is one of the brown capsules, the darker one without the black flecks in it. at least it was in mine.
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the caffeine is one of the brown capsules, the darker one without the black flecks in it. at least it was in mine.
you mean capsules or pills? Capsules have no flecks, only pills have...

I have 3 capsules(one is darker than the other 2), 5 round shaped pills(1 dark brown, 2 light brown, and 2 with flecks--one has more flecks than the other), and 1 non-round shaped pill.

Which one is caffeine?
And anybody can tell what the other pills are for? It would have been nicer if the animal cuts came with the indication for starter...
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you mean capsules or pills? Capsules have no flecks, only pills have...

I have 3 capsules(one is darker than the other 2), 5 round shaped pills(1 dark brown, 2 light brown, and 2 with flecks--one has more flecks than the other), and 1 non-round shaped pill.

Which one is caffeine?
And anybody can tell what the other pills are for? It would have been nicer if the animal cuts came with the indication for starter...
Thanks.
And which one is diuretic? And which one is thyroid booster, guggle(sp?) or so? I am afraid itching is caused by one of diuretic, caffeine, and/or thyroid booster. Anybody knows, please????
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you mean capsules or pills? Capsules have no flecks, only pills have...

I have 3 capsules(one is darker than the other 2), 5 round shaped pills(1 dark brown, 2 light brown, and 2 with flecks--one has more flecks than the other), and 1 non-round shaped pill.

Which one is caffeine?
And anybody can tell what the other pills are for? It would have been nicer if the animal cuts came with the indication for starter...
Thanks.
i guess you have to look closely to see it. mine had two brown and one greenish capsule, the caffeine i was told is the darker of the brown ones. the can has a list of the compounds on it, so if you really want you could just weigh the pills, would give you a good indication of whats what
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