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    Is IForce Dymethazine A PH Or A Designer Steroid?

    I've been reading quite a bit on it, but I'm coming across different explanations. There's more information leaning towards Dymethazine being a designer steroid. What is the proper PCT for Dymethazine? Is it really less harsh than most PHs? (0% increase in estrogen?)
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    Lol this replaces an uneducated post by me
    had been thinking wrong the whole time haha
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    Originally Posted by nekromantic View Post
    Ph and ds are the same thing
    ummm no ,, you fail
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    And for pct do the same as you would for s drol as it is 2 s drol molecules bonded together
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    Originally Posted by xR1pp3Rx View Post
    ummm no ,, you fail
    what's the difference then?
    From what i understand they're both basically the same thing
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    It's a DS, and can't convert to estrogen (aka Non-Aromatizing)
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    Originally Posted by nekromantic View Post
    what's the difference then?
    From what i understand they're both basically the same thing
    Prohormone has to be converted to target hormone. Designer steroid is active and requires no conversion.
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    Originally Posted by ~Hades~ View Post
    Prohormone has to be converted to target hormone. Designer steroid is active and requires no conversion.
    very well
    thanks for the info
    I had always thought they were essentially the same thing
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    Originally Posted by ~Hades~ View Post
    Prohormone has to be converted to target hormone. Designer steroid is active and requires no conversion.
    ^^^^bam!
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    i think its on par with M-drol
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    Originally Posted by Supplement-Slut View Post
    It's a DS, and can't convert to estrogen (aka Non-Aromatizing)
    Ok, thanks. I read that these would be sufficient enough for PCT:

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    Originally Posted by Lean2Mass View Post
    Ok, thanks. I read that these would be sufficient enough for PCT:

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    That would work fine. Make sure you get real Nolvadex and not Novedex XT. And, IMO, Dymethazine isn't as mild (regarding sides) as some think.
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    Originally Posted by stevenmilligan View Post
    That would work fine. Make sure you get real Nolvadex and not Novedex XT. And, IMO, Dymethazine isn't as mild (regarding sides) as some think.
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    Originally Posted by Lean2Mass View Post
    I've been reading quite a bit on it, but I'm coming across different explanations. There's more information leaning towards Dymethazine being a designer steroid. What is the proper PCT for Dymethazine? Is it really less harsh than most PHs? (0% increase in estrogen?)
    What is it with this way of thinking?
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    Originally Posted by jeremyleinen View Post
    What is it with this way of thinking?
    It's what IForce has claimed, so I'm just quoting them.
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    Originally Posted by Lean2Mass View Post
    Why is that?
    in terms of liver toxicity, Dymethazine is still almost as harsh as m-drol.
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    Originally Posted by Lean2Mass View Post
    It's what IForce has claimed, so I'm just quoting them.
    they may have claimed that theres no conversion to estrogen, but thats the case with a lot of ph/ds, and that has nothing to do with it being or not being harsh, and I know for a fact that iForce hasn't made a claim on that.
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    Originally Posted by Lean2Mass View Post
    Why is that?
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    in terms of liver toxicity, Dymethazine is still almost as harsh as m-drol.
    This. And the fact that it can cause some serious shut down. It isn't a beginner compound, for sure.
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    Originally Posted by stevenmilligan View Post
    This. And the fact that it can cause some serious shut down. It isn't a beginner compound, for sure.
    That's all I need to know. I'm glad I can come here for advice. What do you recommend for a beginner compound?
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    That's all I need to know. I'm glad I can come here for advice. What do you recommend for a beginner compound?

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    in terms of liver toxicity, Dymethazine is still almost as harsh as m-drol.
    I've seen 20-30 blood panels that show different. It is however on par with it's lipid impact.
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    What do you weigh now?
    5'6'' @ 138 (I used to be 100 lbs a couple years ago)

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    I want to know more than it'll make me big. I want to know what PCT I should do as well.
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    5'6'' @ 138 (I used to be 100 lbs a couple years ago)

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    I want to know more than it'll make me big. I want to know what PCT I should do as well.
    nolva

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    I've seen 20-30 blood panels that show different. It is however on par with it's lipid impact.
    What happened to protodrol? I saw some studies recently about saturated A rings and greatly reduced liver toxicity. I think it had a saturated A ring if i remember correctly
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    Originally Posted by NattyDisaster View Post
    What happened to protodrol? I saw some studies recently about saturated A rings and greatly reduced liver toxicity. I think it had a saturated A ring if i remember correctly
    Correct...protodrol was THE best ph/ds to ever hit the market...to bad it's gone.
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