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Old 01-20-2009, 12:25 AM   #1
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Did I get a bad batch of salbutamol?

I ordered clen online and they sent me this ****, but from what I understand it's an ample substitute.
They're 4 mg tabs. I took one, nothing. The next day I tried two. Still nothing. WTF?
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Old 01-20-2009, 12:31 AM   #2
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4 mg is overdosing you should be shaking and everything.

You start out with 20 mcg (microgram) which is 0,02 mg.
If you get real clean build the doses up until you cant handle the sides and then stay there for a while. should be around 60-160 mcg.
Your clen is probobly bunk.
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Most of Clen from online retailers are bunk. Keep using it or see if you can give it back.
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Most of Clen from online retailers are bunk. Keep using it or see if you can give it back.
If he doesn't get any effect from 8 mg it is bunk.
That means he got no idea what it is and i wouldn't use it.
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That's what the bottle looks like, if anyone recognizes it. Picture isn't the best but it does say 'Salbutamol 4 mg'. The rest is in Polish or some ****.
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Guys he got Salbutamol instead of clen. Imo Sal has more anabolic properties than clen but is less effective as a fat burner. Try taking 4 tabs throughout the day op. And yeah Sal is dosed in mg's , compared to clen which is in mcg's ...
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Salbutamol isnt even clen, some people use it as a alternative since it acts on the b2-receptors but it is not nearly as effective.

Its sole purpose is for asthma relief.
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Diff compounds yeah but it still is pretty effective. On the upside its half life is much shorter than clen,so if u huff and puff on a high dose of clen (120 mcgs) , this should be a bit better perhaps... But yeah anything over 16 mgs of sal a day will make u shake like an autumn leaf...
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Diff compounds yeah but it still is pretty effective. On the upside its half life is much shorter than clen,so if u huff and puff on a high dose of clen (120 mcgs) , this should be a bit better perhaps... But yeah anything over 16 mgs of sal a day will make u shake like an autumn leaf...
idd the half like is about 2 hours i think, which means you have to spread them out good.

I would rather use clen with a halflife of like 36 hours and a big dose in the morning. Much more effective as a fat-burner.
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^^^ Yeah totally agreed ! Was just saying since he has sal mite as well try and make the most of it !
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Tonyjaa, you're saying 16 miligrams spread out how? 4 mgs 4 times daily? I'll give it a shot I guess. Disappointing that 8 had no perceptible effect...
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Yeah bro that would be the way to take it. U'd notice small muscle gains on it for sure.Also it does a decent job with fatburning. Sal is much cheaper than clen brah,so id say dont buy from that site again.

Im in india curretly and can buy 9 strips of it for like 1 buck (usd). and that is from a legit pharmacy...

Let me knw how it goes,am sure you'll get results out of it...
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Yeah bro that would be the way to take it. U'd notice small muscle gains on it for sure.Also it does a decent job with fatburning. Sal is much cheaper than clen brah,so id say dont buy from that site again.

Im in india curretly and can buy 9 strips of it for like 1 buck (usd). and that is from a legit pharmacy...

Let me knw how it goes,am sure you'll get results out of it...
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Do you think the stuff I got is legit though? As I said there are no perceptible effects, which I don't think is supposed to be the case!
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As I said there are no perceptible effects, which I don't think is supposed to be the case!
The only perceptible effect I saw from salbutamol was a dramatic increase in cramps, which is apparently caused because salbutamol depletes the heart of taurine. I actually had to stop taking it because it was making my workouts dangerous (cramps when lifting is bad).

I would recommend supplementing additional taurine if you plan to keep taking this.

edit to add: if the above sounds scary it is worth remembering that salbutamol has never been shown to cause the irreversible necrosis of heart cells as has clenbuterol, and is still likely a safer alternative.
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The only perceptible effect I saw from salbutamol was a dramatic increase in cramps, which is apparently caused because salbutamol depletes the heart of taurine. I actually had to stop taking it because it was making my workouts dangerous (cramps when lifting is bad).

I would recommend supplementing additional taurine if you plan to keep taking this.

edit to add: if the above sounds scary it is worth remembering that salbutamol has never been shown to cause the irreversible necrosis of heart cells as has clenbuterol, and is still likely a safer alternative.
Wow, that's real interesting. Fortunately I already supplement taurine (about a gram 3x daily) so hopefully I won't encounter that kind of problem, but I'll definitely step up that dosage if I experience cramps.
So since there was no perceptible thermogenesis (manifested in the form of an accelerated pulse, elevated body temp, etc), do you think it can still work to melt away fat?
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Wow, that's real interesting. Fortunately I already supplement taurine (about a gram 3x daily) so hopefully I won't encounter that kind of problem, but I'll definitely step up that dosage if I experience cramps.
You should be okay then, but as you said you may want to up the dosage if you see any warning signs of cramps.

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Awesome info sonic...Yeah Sal's being touted as the safer alternative to clen now a days...Stick with it bro you'll def see positive results from it.Id to go upto 24 mgs to see some serious results,s dont be disheartened...Also an odd banana will help along with the taurine you using. Remeber its more anabolic than clen so you can add on some nice lean muscle along with the fatloss provided your protein intake is high (which im sure is the case)....
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