pain when squatting

skinnymarine89 · 01-20-2009, 12:13 AM

i'm a beginner to weight lifting and just started adding weight to my squats. i've got this weird pain in my right abs when pushing up. I don't notice it as much when i really focus on breathing out harder until i'm done with the set. Am i just starting to use muscles in ways i'm not used to or does it sound like i'm about to herniate something?

Phil2009 · 01-20-2009, 12:19 AM

Because you are a beginner, it is a lot harder to determine what the cause of the pain is. If possible have someone show you good squatting technique, or even post a video of yourself performing a squat. What kind of weight are we talking about here?

skinnymarine89 · 01-20-2009, 12:21 AM

i went up 10lbs. so it was only a total of 115 (i'm a small guy)

Phil2009 · 01-20-2009, 12:24 AM

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i went up 10lbs. so it was only a total of 115 (i'm a small guy)

Thats fine, everyone starts somewhere. Is a video of you squatting possible to see? Also, how is your core strength?

skinnymarine89 · 01-20-2009, 01:01 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kPmYAYcNWk

Phil2009 · 01-20-2009, 01:07 AM

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Your form looks good.

Elaborate on your pain.

skinnymarine89 · 01-20-2009, 01:10 AM

it's almost like a muscle cramp (not a side stitch while you're running or anything) but it doesn't feel like any muscle cramp i've ever had. i'm not new to working out in general either, i've played plenty of sports and i'm in the marines but this one is new...

Phil2009 · 01-20-2009, 01:13 AM

Not too sure then mate. Could be something to do with intra-abdominal pressure and core strength. But maybe some other posters can help you out more.

skinnymarine89 · 01-20-2009, 01:18 AM

thanks anyway. at least i know my forms decent now

Reps n Sets · 01-20-2009, 01:23 AM

His form is good? no.

1st mistake.. you're squating in running shoes... no, never. You need something with hard soles. Chuck Taylors are cheap and effective.

2nd mistake, youre breaking at the knees and not at the hips. Bend you hips before you even think about bending your knees, you are not performing an Oly style squat. Sit back, and stick your ASS out.

3rd mistake.. you aren't going to parallel, get down lower.

Read this throughly: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ#The_Squat
Watch all these videos: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Squat_Videos

Digest it, then come back.

Phil2009 · 01-20-2009, 01:28 AM

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His form is good? no.

1st mistake.. you're squating in running shoes... no, never. You need something with hard soles. Chuck Taylors are cheap and effective.

2nd mistake, youre breaking at the knees and not at the hips. Bend you hips before you even think about bending your knees, you are not performing an Oly style squat. Sit back, and stick your ASS out.

3rd mistake.. you aren't going to parallel, get down lower.

Okay the shoes, but he is flexing his knees and hips at the same time. As for how far he is going down, he is going just a little higher than parallel, but its subjective as to how far down you should go.

Reps n Sets · 01-20-2009, 01:43 AM

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Okay the shoes, but he is flexing his knees and hips at the same time. As for how far he is going down, he is going just a little higher than parallel, but its subjective as to how far down you should go.

shut the f*** up. you should get banned for this stupid post. why the f*** are you giving advice?

You dont flex them at the same time... any person with a respectable spot would tell you that, and if you dont go to parallel you are not getting the full effects of the exercise... he might as well leg press. He has pain from squatting and It's actually worst on the knee when you stop short of parallel.

I should post this in the PL section so you can be bombarded with negs.

Phil2009 · 01-20-2009, 01:52 AM

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shut the f*** up. you should get banned for this stupid post. why the f*** are you giving advice?

You dont flex them at the same time... any person with a respectable spot would tell you that, and if you dont go to parallel you are not getting the full effects of the exercise... he might as well leg press. He has pain from squatting and It's actually worst on the knee when you stop short of parallel.

I should post this in the PL section so you can be bombarded with negs.

Ummm ok, whats with the hostility?

EDIT: Check Mark Rippetoe doing the squat ( http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/C...uats315x10.mov ) he bends both hips and knees at the same time.

Reps n Sets · 01-20-2009, 02:15 AM

I knees will move regardless. Sticking your butt out and "sitting back" is a cue so you can engage your hamstrings and hips into the movement. That should be your main focus which why it is emphasis to be done before any knee breakage. The motion has to exaggerated so the trainee gets it.

Phil2009 · 01-20-2009, 02:17 AM

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I knees will move regardless. Sticking your butt out and "sitting back" is a cue so you can engage your hamstrings and hips into the movement. That should be your main focus which why it is emphasis to be done before any knee breakage. The motion has to exaggerated so the trainee gets it.

Good advice mate, you could have said that instead of cursing...

Reps n Sets · 01-20-2009, 02:21 AM

Yeah, I had a few drinks tonight.

gets me a little antsy.

chazzy1864 · 01-20-2009, 04:04 AM

*whistles* Wow....it's a bit tense in here. Let me just squeeze by and get to the corner, and I'll be good. *Looks around awkwardly*

OP, go to sick call. make sure it isn't anything serious. You'll get this off of your mind, and besides, you'll get to miss morning formation.

On the form. Try sitting back into the squat. You are breaking at knees and hips at the same time which is fine, but you are dropping straight down. Which can be fine, however you are leaning forward a bit, and looks as if your heels are wanting to come off the floor.

No on teh running shoes. Wrestling shoes, chuck taylors, or lifting shoes. The first two are flat soled shoes that won't buckle. Lifting shoes have a hard sole, but are angled forward. Any one of those will work fine.

Work on your flexibility and get down lower. You were stopping with your knee at a 90 degree angle, which is exactly where you aren't supposed to stop.