Difference in 45lb plates?

[Deadliftking]

Ok, so I've recently joined a metroflex gym. And they have standard iron 45's. I used to use the rubber iron grip weights. I have noticed a big weight difference in my lifts.

I mean they are both 45's right? What could make such a big difference? The sawed off plates and round don't seem to be the difference to me.

Ex: I used to be able to deadlift 545x3 with these:


And now I am barely pulling 500 with these.


Just a bit confused. I suspect that my old gym plates may have been cheating me out?

[cupcakekid]

plates are never right. many are 3-5 lbs over or under 45 lbs, usually over from my experience. they can be milled, but companies wont do that. we weighed out all the 45 lb plates at our gym and most were about 3-4 lbs over

[Paladin13]

Depends how high the circle is off the ground. If one is 5 inches off the ground and the other is 4, it's obvious you'll pull more weight with the ones higher up.

[ShutUpAndSquat]

It's not the rubber plates' fault...I think all plates have an imbalance as to how much they weigh. I used to train in a gym that had those rubber plates, and I just moved to one that has the standard ones...hasn't affected my numbers at all.

[Entkommen115]

My gym just got those stupid iron grip plates that you showed at the top. They have this rubberish material around them that smells awful. Kind of like a sumo pooped on a burning tire...

But anyways I haven't noticed any difference yet with what I lift.

[ss4vegeta1]

Originally Posted by cupcakekid

plates are never right. many are 3-5 lbs over or under 45 lbs, usually over from my experience. they can be milled, but companies wont do that. we weighed out all the 45 lb plates at our gym and most were about 3-4 lbs over

I agree, I have trained with both and you can never really be so accurate. Its always a good thing if one is training with free weights. Also when I was lifting with the rubber plates in my old gym I was going to, had a thin olympic bar rather than the thick standard one. Still 45lbs though. Maybe thats why deads felt lighter.

[Deadliftking]

Originally Posted by Paladin13

Depends how high the circle is off the ground. If one is 5 inches off the ground and the other is 4, it's obvious you'll pull more weight with the ones higher up.

Hmm, ill check into that. This had'nt come to mind. I think that might be it. Thanks.

[skinnycalves]

what cupcake kid said

and whoever decided to change the shape of a plate from a circle to a decagon needs to die

[Deadliftking]

The iron grip ones are filled with cement right?

Originally Posted by skinnycalves

and whoever decided to change the shape of a plate from a circle to a decagon needs to die

This.

[Entkommen115]

Originally Posted by skinnycalves

whoever decided to change the shape of a plate from a circle to a decagon needs to die

This

[Entkommen115]

Originally Posted by Deadliftking

The iron grip ones are filled with cement right?

No its some kind of "specialized liquid" according to their sales rep

[ShutUpAndSquat]

Originally Posted by skinnycalves

what cupcake kid said

and whoever decided to change the shape of a plate from a circle to a decagon needs to die

Ahahaha, it made setting up plates on the deadlift a nightmare. The bar would be misaligned since I couldn't have all the plates in the same position. I could just change my angle to match the bar's, but it was still a pain in the ass

[Deadliftking]

I was supposed to make an attempt with 585 today, but 500 was slow enough.

Is it something I will get used to after a while?

[jeff00z28]

Originally Posted by skinnycalves

what cupcake kid said

and whoever decided to change the shape of a plate from a circle to a decagon needs to die

its so when u set the bar down after a set of curls it wont roll away and hit the poor excuse of a man that is standing near u (serious) probably

[BiggerTommorow]

if all ur old 45's weigh 42 and all the new ones weigh 47 that would be 5lb per 45lb plate difference, making a 10 (total) plate lift 50 pounds heavier.

Edit: numbers above are arbitrary but a def. possibility.

[Reps n Sets]

Originally Posted by Deadliftking

Ok, so I've recently joined a metroflex gym. And they have standard iron 45's. I used to use the rubber iron grip weights. I have noticed a big weight difference in my lifts.

I mean they are both 45's right? What could make such a big difference? The sawed off plates and round don't seem to be the difference to me.

Ex: I used to be able to deadlift 545x3 with these:


And now I am barely pulling 500 with these.


Just a bit confused. I suspect that my old gym plates may have been cheating me out?

The first one is a 100 pound plate and the second one is a 45 pound plate.. 55 pounds give or take might make a little bit of a difference IMO.

[WowWeakForum]

Make sure it's not your grip that's failing or at least attributing to your failure. If so, could be the bar.

[samsuperjew5]

Are ivanko plates usu. accurate?

[cupcakekid]

Originally Posted by samsuperjew

Are ivanko plates usu. accurate?

yes, there probably the most accurate out there

[skinnycalves]

can someone explain to me what i am looking at? i dare someone to find a more ridiculous looking plate

dave tate said if you need handles to grip a 45lb plate, you have no business weight training

[samsuperjew5]

handles HAVE to be a good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!! (not srs)



http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6436015.html

they even have a patent lmao

[skinnycalves]

lol so they want to be the only ones who can manufacture plates with 3 handles even spaced about the circumference (atleast thats the way i read it)

this is a fail

[ighairynutsack]

i have rubber plated circle plates at home but the gym i go to has the stupid hexagon or whatever shape they are plates. i can usually do more weight at the gym i thnk it is the handles maybe making it easier to grip i don't know but i usually have to use 5 pounds or so more when i go to the gym instead of lifting at home. i like lifting at home though because i can throw **** everywhere and not have to be gentle even though i am anyway i don't feel like buying a new bar.

i wish my gym had some 100lb plates though that would be sweet. i wish i had some at home as well.

[Donkeyno9]

I use Hampton plates. I weighed all of my 45's and wound up exchanging 2 of them because they were off by more than 6 pounds. Now I'm thinking about adjusting the remaining plates. Good plates are expensive so not all gyms use them.

[wizard_of_aus]

Originally Posted by Deadliftking

Ok, so I've recently joined a metroflex gym. And they have standard iron 45's. I used to use the rubber iron grip weights. I have noticed a big weight difference in my lifts.

I mean they are both 45's right? What could make such a big difference? The sawed off plates and round don't seem to be the difference to me.

Ex: I used to be able to deadlift 545x3 with these:


And now I am barely pulling 500 with these.


Just a bit confused. I suspect that my old gym plates may have been cheating me out?

Obviously the top plate weighs less, cos it has 2 extra holes in it! :P

[RandallH19891]

I like plates with plenty of rust on them.

"Yo dawg I hurd you liek tetanus, so we put some rust on yo' plates so you can get diseased while you lift."

[spooq]

Originally Posted by Entkommen115

No its some kind of "specialized liquid" according to their sales rep

I was told it was a patented mix of sand, lime and water? You didn't hear that secret recipe from me, I don't want to get sued!

We have round plates with handles at the regular gym I go to, and nearly all of the handles have been smashed in, which makes deadlifting really irritating, because one side inevitably rolls onto the dip where the handle used to be, making the bar not level.

[dmbphan041]

we have these at my gym

http://store.sorinex.com/v/vspfiles/photos/DRC-45-1.jpg

[Deadliftking]

Originally Posted by BiggerTommorow

if all ur old 45's weigh 42 and all the new ones weigh 47 that would be 5lb per 45lb plate difference, making a 10 (total) plate lift 50 pounds heavier.

Edit: numbers above are arbitrary but a def. possibility.

This, and a possibility of the bar being lower.

Originally Posted by Reps n Sets

The first one is a 100 pound plate and the second one is a 45 pound plate.. 55 pounds give or take might make a little bit of a difference IMO.

wat?... no, brah.

Originally Posted by WowWeakForum

Make sure it's not your grip that's failing or at least attributing to your failure. If so, could be the bar.

To make sure it wasnt this, I did a set with straps, and it was just the same.

Originally Posted by skinnycalves

dave tate said if you need handles to grip a 45lb plate, you have no business weight training

Agreed.

Originally Posted by wizard_of_aus

Obviously the top plate weighs less, cos it has 2 extra holes in it! :P

lolol

[greyhair]

Originally Posted by cupcakekid

plates are never right. many are 3-5 lbs over or under 45 lbs, usually over from my experience. they can be milled, but companies wont do that. we weighed out all the 45 lb plates at our gym and most were about 3-4 lbs over

Bingo!
Years ago, most of the Gyms where I trained used milled plates. Lately, milled plates have become a rarity. Amazingly, NYSC removed their milled plates over the last few years and have replaced them with rubber coated and cast iron plates. (morons)
You'd be surprised by the variation in bar weights too.

Its one of the reasons that I prefer to train in the same gym over and over again.
A gym typically will use one suppliers equipment and order the same bars/plates/collars. There is still variation around the norm, but you have a shot at some consistency. If your gym does mix suppliers. Keep the loading even.