An anti-estrogen is NEVER needed after a ph cycle (which is what I think you're meaning).
You WILL need a cortisol blocker like lean xtreme though. Honestly, 2wks is not even close to the necessary research time needed for ph's like tren and superdrol, buuuuuut you already started your cycle so....
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07-08-2010, 10:49 PM #181I got big by re-racking your weights....
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I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
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08-05-2010, 05:17 PM #182
Motivation Funk?
Hey wyldByll, in my third week of my H-Drol cycle (50/75/75/75/75) and I'm luvn’ this stuff, but in my 3rd week, I’m having a hard time staying motivated even with the positive physical change that is taking place. No doubt, it’s got something to do with the H-Drol but not enough to make me panic. Have you heard anything like this and if so, what can I do to counter the effects? No matter, I will stay the course and finish strong. I just don’t want it to be grudgingly. Other than that, no real side effects at all.
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08-07-2010, 03:58 PM #183
It's on cycle lethargy. Up your water intake and you might want to grab a bottle of l-dopa by cognitive labs; worked for me.
What are your supports?I got big by re-racking your weights....
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I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
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10-16-2010, 02:26 PM #184
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little confused
When should the lean xtreme be taken? Should it be stacked with fina cycle or should it be taken with the pct after your fina cycle?
What's a reliable cycle support that you would recommend and during the 4 weeks of the cycle when should i start taking it, the 3rd week right?
Will Nolva or Clomid alone help keep all my gains as pct? i know the dosage for Nolva is 20/20/10/10/5 but if i change my mind and get Clomid what should i dose that at?
Out of Nolva and Clomid which one would you say would be the best to keep me in the "norm" and safe and gyno free with my estrogen and test. at normal levels after i finish the cycle?
When should i start taking winabol for an extreme cut, should i stack with pct or should i take this during my cycle of finaflex or is it better to just do it alone after the pct is out of the way
I have been reading this same threat for months and ive gotten like 97% of all the information i need i just needed to get my head cleared of these questions that have developed over time lol, any help would be greatly appreciated wyldbyll
thanksLast edited by Ron69697; 10-16-2010 at 04:20 PM.
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10-18-2010, 12:45 PM #185
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10-18-2010, 12:47 PM #186
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10-18-2010, 08:23 PM #187
lx at day 10 of pct.
cycle supports are usually started 2wks prior to cycle start date.
you need to take a milder ph compound like epi or h-drol before you take fina. VERY SERIOUS!
I like Nolva much better than clomid but that's just my opinion.
sounds like he is.
disagree big time w/ that. clomid at 75/50/50/25/25 is good for fina. nolva at 40/20/20/10/10.I got big by re-racking your weights....
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I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
Charger Fan - GO BOLTS!!!
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10-19-2010, 07:12 PM #188
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Agreed
aight aight i hear ya
so lemme switch this up ill follow your advise and put the 550 in the closet for another couple months...
whatever you can answer of the following would be awesome bro
which one would give me the best gains and size epi or h-drol? and what should i dose it at? (50/50/75/75/50 is what i was going to go with if h-drol was choice)?
and what would be the best pct for this a serm like nolva(40/20/20/10/10) or something like ai's post cycle support capsules or novedex be good enough or both? what test booster would u recommend
how long after epi or h-drol cycle should i wait to start a cycle of finaflex....3 months still?
hook me up brooLast edited by Ron69697; 10-19-2010 at 08:19 PM.
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10-21-2010, 02:07 AM #189
Put it in the fridge, not the closet (if possible).
Halo is stronger but I would advise epi as the sides are less and it's easier to keep gains. Halo can shut you down pretty hard (stop natural test production) as epi does not as much. If you run halo go w/ 75/75/75/75/75 if you go w/ epi 40/40/40/40/40. I would use nolvadex for pct for each at 30/20/20/10/10. There's no need for a natty test booster but if you want to spend the money go for it. Remember the lx too. Supports for both are livercare (liv52), joint support, taurine, hawothorne berry, fish oil, and A LOT OF WATER. Start livercare, joint-v and hb 2wks prior to cycle. Stop all pre wo stims during cycle and start back up at w/ pct. I would also stop creatine and beta-alanine too as starting it back up during pct will give an added mental boost that's needed while recovering test levels. As w/ all ph/ds cycles: cycle lenghth + pct length = time off before you can start another cycle. And, I would do a solo sd cycle before using fina which is sd and tren stacked. Do the sd at 20/20/20/20 with nolva at 40/20/20/10/10.
Kewl?I got big by re-racking your weights....
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I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
Charger Fan - GO BOLTS!!!
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10-25-2010, 08:07 PM #190
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yea kewl cool but theres different types like which one are you talking about Halo 2 xtreme, Halo-tren 400, and Halo-Zol and epi's are epi-cynodrone, epi-drone, epi-tren, epi-strong.
Which one do you think out of both of them will give me the best results though. Name me just one Halo or EPI if so which Halo or EPI. When it comes down to PH's i am serious and i will do whats necessary to have the full effect and having it stick.
would you recommend ai's cycle support powder bc i has pretty much everything already in it that i have to load up on so i can just buy 2 tubs of it instead of buying all the pills separately and it would save me some money and take it throughout my cycle and pct.
and when are you wanting me to run the lx, 3 weeks into pct?
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10-28-2010, 11:18 PM #191
There's no real difference between manufacturing companies as long as it's the same compound and dosage.
I don't like pre mixed cycle supports as they're usually underdosed, overpriced and inadequate. Just use taurine, livercare (liv 52), fish oil, multi vit, joint support, hawthorne berry, and plenty of water for your supports.
Lx at day 10 of pct. Either dose it as 3 caps/day for 30 day or 2 for 30 and save some. Don't go over 30 days though as it's hard to keep fat lose.I got big by re-racking your weights....
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I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
Charger Fan - GO BOLTS!!!
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11-01-2010, 07:19 PM #192
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ok understandable. By Halo you are referring to H-drol correct? because thats what im going to go with because ive read that its dryer than epi and epi doesnt show results as obvious as h-drol does so lets see how this rolls out, unless you got an objection lol. where can i get "h-drol" from? would this website which is CEL's version be suffice tsnnutrition.com/competitiveedgelabshdrol-halodrolclone60caps.aspx and at what times throughout the day would it be best to take h-drol after a meal in the morning and after a meal during lunch? or just 45 minutes before workout without meal? because i wake up at 7am eat breakfast and eat lunch at 1pm and i go to the gym at 7pm and eat dinner around at 9pm. Also when should i take it on non training days? do you think i can take it for 6 weeks or would that be to much i was jw maybe 50/75/75/75/75/75 or would it be the same exact results if i just stuck with a 5 week cycle
im going to need 2 bottles right? thank ya buddddddyLast edited by Ron69697; 11-01-2010 at 07:50 PM.
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11-02-2010, 10:42 AM #193I got big by re-racking your weights....
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I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
Charger Fan - GO BOLTS!!!
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11-08-2010, 05:33 PM #194
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I think Lockout supplements discontinued H-drol but i just got it off of another site. Ive ordered my 2 bottles of h-drol and the Generic version of Nolvadex seeing as i couldnt get the real version. Same thing
Yea your right ok thanks! But im still hangin on to the question about when would be the best time to take the halo capsules, 75mgs in the morning or 75mgs 45min before workout?
and same with the Nolva should i take my dosage in the morning or 45min before workout or should i split it up evenly throughout my day
The Libido booster is started together with the Nolva correct? and is Reversitol by I Force considered a libido booster, if so would you consider that over "ball refill" or "mens virility"?Last edited by Ron69697; 11-08-2010 at 07:45 PM.
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11-08-2010, 11:26 PM #195
I would not utilize an AI (reversitol) along side a SERM for pct. Take the halo every 8hrs (25,25,25). This way it's spaced evenly throughout the day and keeps blood levels consistant. Inconsistant blood levels cause sides. Take the tamoxifen all right before bed only. Do not overlap your SERM and cycle unless your nipples are getting VERY painful and you can feel a slight lump. If that's the case, just take 5mgs at night during cycle. You'll want to take around 400-600mgs of B-6 every night during cycle starting at day 8 till end of cycle (beginning of pct). Start your libido enhancer at around day 14 of cycle till day 14 of pct.
I got big by re-racking your weights....
RESPECT
I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
Charger Fan - GO BOLTS!!!
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11-09-2010, 05:52 PM #196
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11-09-2010, 11:00 PM #197
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02-07-2011, 10:47 PM #198
wondering what to do
Hey,
Sorry to bring the thread back but I just got my hands on the FinaFlex Hardcore and 550-XD.
I am 6'1 weight 146 lbs right now, I went from 125 to 146 in about a year or so, currently just stopped taking all my protein and preworkouts and all that stuff, trying to get ready to take the 550-XD. I am 26 years old and have been lifting heavy already but I can't gain any weight or visual mass or anything my strength is off the charts though.
I bought milk thistle for extra liver support I am going to be taking it for about 2 week prior to the cycle and along with extra joint support and everything.
after reading most of the thread I noticed that you advised people to stay away from the 550 and try a less PH before going into the 550. So my question would be should I go with the Hardcore first before taking the 550? Both bottles expires 10/2011 so I need to get rid of them both before then or sell one of them.
I am going to order the Revolution PCT Complete Post Cycle two bottles one for the hardcore and other for the 550. I know the finaflex bottle states that do not take the product for more then 30 days and cycle off 60 days after.
I was just curious on your opinion and if you have any advice or anything else I should take before starting this cycle.
Thank you in advance...
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02-09-2011, 11:04 PM #199
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02-10-2011, 10:25 AM #200
You need to do A LOT more research into ph's before doing a cycle. You are nowhere near close to being ready. Why would you stop taking protein before a cycle?!?!?! That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard. Put bottle in fridge or at least a cool dry place. Will be good for 2yrs after exp date. You should get to 185lbs before even THINKING of using steroids.
I got big by re-racking your weights....
RESPECT
I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
Charger Fan - GO BOLTS!!!
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02-28-2011, 10:29 PM #201
Would you recommend taking two post cycles? Or just do one and get the blood work done and if needed go ahead and continue with the 2nd bottle?
I decided to go with RD PCT Revolution Post Cycle.
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02-28-2011, 10:47 PM #202
You need a SERM like Nolvadex or Clomid to pct from Finaflex or prepare to lose ALL gains and suffer the consequence of possibly getting gyno and being in worse shape than when you started.
I got big by re-racking your weights....
RESPECT
I like to pre-load all of my supplements for 2yrs before lifting seriously. I feel so vascular and the pumps are INSANE!
April 2008, I weighed 157lbs.
Charger Fan - GO BOLTS!!!
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03-05-2011, 03:24 PM #203
Thanks for the reply and help. I do appreciate it.
I order some Nolvadex hopefully it gets here before my cycle ends,
For the post cycle, do you think in running 40mg for 10 days and 20mg for 20 days be good along with the Redefine Nutrition Revolution PCT be good to go?
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05-05-2011, 05:11 AM #204
I have 30 pills of finaflex left from my last cycle. I took 1 pill a day for 30 days. I just wanted to know if I took 2 pills for the first week them 1 for the next 2 weeks. Would that be more effective? Or if I took 1 for 2 weeks and 2 for the third week
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02-11-2012, 01:43 AM #205
I'm taking mono creatine right now w/ proper protein & thinkin bout ordering finaflex 1 andro.. It will be my 1st cycle.. R u sayin I shouldn't buy their brand revolution pct ??
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04-12-2012, 08:31 PM #206
what sups can i take to lower the risk of gyno on this product and what can i take to keep myself from not getting hard?
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07-10-2012, 03:55 PM #207
RIP original fina flex...
If only I could get my hands on you now..
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09-12-2012, 10:17 AM #208
Awesome Advice , starting my cycle on monday ! found it for a really good price on ebay for $29.99 Free shipping. (: just incase anyone wanted to order it there called nutrition pioneers. but yeah im gonna test out this first bottle and prolly go a second round. idk if this is recommended but i will take the pct necessary.
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