More H-drol Questions?????

dailygrind · 01-13-2009, 06:56 AM

Is there any big difference between Competitive Edge Labs H-drol and Fact Actions H-drol?

Also, along that same note what has everyone had the best results with Competitive Edge Labs Cycle assist, or Anabolic innovations Cycle Support? I am leaning more towards Cycle Assist because it it being in pill form and easier to take.

Thanks for any help guys.

smcmichaeljr · 01-13-2009, 07:00 AM

Fast Action and CEL are both clones, so it's just a matter of who you trust to put the best quality product into those pills. There are a ton of logs on CEL and some on Fast Action. Looks to me that both get good reviews.

From what I hear the whole CEL line is killer. Some say their PCT Assist is better than either Reversitol or AI PCS. If you choose to run the CEL H-Drol I don't see a reason to not go with the whole line. It doesn't hurt that I hear the taste of AI's CS is wretched.

jeremyleinen · 01-13-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by smcmichaeljr

Fast Action and CEL are both clones, so it's just a matter of who you trust to put the best quality product into those pills. There are a ton of logs on CEL and some on Fast Action. Looks to me that both get good reviews.

From what I hear the whole CEL line is killer. Some say their PCT Assist is better than either Reversitol or AI PCS. If you choose to run the CEL H-Drol I don't see a reason to not go with the whole line. It doesn't hurt that I hear the taste of AI's CS is wretched.

I dunno about assist being better than reversitol. Better than PCS, maybe. It doesn't have ATD or 6bromo, so its not the complete forumla the way Reversitol is.

Altitude · 01-13-2009, 07:09 AM

So I'm wanting to run an H-drol cycle - I've done some research and it seems like everyone's cycles vary quite a bit. I'm looking at keeping it as simple as possible. I have A.I. Cycle Support to run for 1 week and continue through the cycle, CEL H-Drol (50/50/75/75/75) and then A.I. Post-Cycle Support to finish it out. Wondering if there is anything I'm absolutely missing here?? Seems like the P.C.S. is a pretty all-encompassing PCT. Anyone run a similar cycle and can suggest anything else that I absolutely would need?

Roun3er · 01-13-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Altitude

So I'm wanting to run an H-drol cycle - I've done some research and it seems like everyone's cycles vary quite a bit. I'm looking at keeping it as simple as possible. I have A.I. Cycle Support to run for 1 week and continue through the cycle, CEL H-Drol (50/50/75/75/75) and then A.I. Post-Cycle Support to finish it out. Wondering if there is anything I'm absolutely missing here?? Seems like the P.C.S. is a pretty all-encompassing PCT. Anyone run a similar cycle and can suggest anything else that I absolutely would need?

At those doses. I recommend that you throw an AI in there. If you are dead set on using PCS, adding 6-oxo would be a smart idea.

wjb33 · 01-13-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Altitude

So I'm wanting to run an H-drol cycle - I've done some research and it seems like everyone's cycles vary quite a bit. I'm looking at keeping it as simple as possible. I have A.I. Cycle Support to run for 1 week and continue through the cycle, CEL H-Drol (50/50/75/75/75) and then A.I. Post-Cycle Support to finish it out. Wondering if there is anything I'm absolutely missing here?? Seems like the P.C.S. is a pretty all-encompassing PCT. Anyone run a similar cycle and can suggest anything else that I absolutely would need?

You might be able to get away with PCS, but some people would also be able to get away with nothing...

I would throw Reversitol in there (4/3/2/1) for PCT, and use the PCS if you feel like you need a boost, whether it be shutdown or just overall well being, around week 3 of PCT.

jbodybuilder · 01-13-2009, 07:54 AM

My advice is to go with the one that is best priced in this comparison. They are both excellent products.

BreakingPoint8 · 01-13-2009, 07:55 AM

Both are legit clones. Can't go wrong with either.

dailygrind · 01-13-2009, 07:59 AM

If I were to go with CEL's Cycle assist. Should I take the recommened dosage throughout the cycle and during pct?

BreakingPoint8 · 01-13-2009, 08:01 AM

During the cycle sure, but do you have anything stronger for PCT?

jbodybuilder · 01-13-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dailygrind

If I were to go with CEL's Cycle assist. Should I take the recommened dosage throughout the cycle and during pct?

Definitely

dailygrind · 01-13-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakingPoint8

During the cycle sure, but do you have anything stronger for PCT?

Yeah thinking of either going with Reversitol or CEL's PCT Assist

put5onyo · 01-13-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dailygrind

Yeah thinking of either going with Reversitol or CEL's PCT Assist

If you had ordered a couple days ago you could have gotten a SERM for about half the price of those two products.

Tried and true method. POSTED studies proving their effectiveness. I know what I will use and recommend.

Problem · 01-13-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dailygrind

Yeah thinking of either going with Reversitol or CEL's PCT Assist

PCT assist is used as a test booster and not to kick start HPTA during PCT. PCT assist alone isn't sufficient.

you need reversitol or aPCT or 6-oxo or a SERM

dailygrind · 01-13-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Problem

PCT assist is used as a test booster and not to kick start HPTA during PCT. PCT assist alone isn't sufficient.

you need reversitol or aPCT or 6-oxo or a SERM

ohh ok, thanks man.

collopy7 · 01-13-2009, 09:24 AM

Can someone explain the SERM to me. I'm actually taking the same cycle he mentioned above, except I'm leaning towards reversitol. Everyone swears by taking a serm instead, isn't a serm nolvadex or clomid? If so, how would I even get my hands on that as I believe they are prescription only? If that's the case, looks like it's OTC for me.

Altitude · 01-13-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wjb33

You might be able to get away with PCS, but some people would also be able to get away with nothing...

I would throw Reversitol in there (4/3/2/1) for PCT, and use the PCS if you feel like you need a boost, whether it be shutdown or just overall well being, around week 3 of PCT.

So I guess this is where i'm still a tad confused. Why also use Reversitol in addition to the PCT? Is it the addition of the estrogen modulation matrix from Reversitol? Both have similar SERMs (Trans-reversatrol).

wjb33 · 01-13-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Altitude

So I guess this is where i'm still a tad confused. Why also use Reversitol in addition to the PCT? Is it the addition of the estrogen modulation matrix from Reversitol? Both have similar SERMs (Trans-reversatrol).

I'm just telling you what I would do. It's that. Reversitol has proven to work. Most people who feel like they need the kitchen sink PCT will throw PCS in too. Personally, I would do H-drol then Reversitol, that's it.

There's a good chance you will get by with just PCS, it's more than likely that you will be shutdown, but after 4 weeks or so you should be okay...Not something I would toy with, just get the Reversitol (for the Aromatase Inhibitors) and be good!

wjb33 · 01-13-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by collopy7

Can someone explain the SERM to me. I'm actually taking the same cycle he mentioned above, except I'm leaning towards reversitol. Everyone swears by taking a serm instead, isn't a serm nolvadex or clomid? If so, how would I even get my hands on that as I believe they are prescription only? If that's the case, looks like it's OTC for me.

If your just doing H-drol, you can get by with Reversitol...

dailygrind · 01-13-2009, 10:17 AM

Ok thanks for the hep guys.

Im set on this stack, let me know what you think:

1-AI's Cycle Support

start approx. a week before h-drol cycle and continue use throughout cycle and PCT.

2-CEL H-drol (2 bottles for 5 weeks)

50/50/75/75/75

3-Reversitol

take for 4 weeks following the end of the h-drol cycle at 3/2/2/1

4-Taurine

just in case if I needed for back pump relief

dailygrind · 01-13-2009, 11:31 AM

bump

wjb33 · 01-13-2009, 11:43 AM

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bump

Looks good man!

btoddkelley · 02-22-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dailygrind

Ok thanks for the hep guys.

Im set on this stack, let me know what you think:

1-AI's Cycle Support

start approx. a week before h-drol cycle and continue use throughout cycle and PCT.

2-CEL H-drol (2 bottles for 5 weeks)

50/50/75/75/75

3-Reversitol

take for 4 weeks following the end of the h-drol cycle at 3/2/2/1

4-Taurine

just in case if I needed for back pump relief

Any thoughts on adding 4 weeks of an 11 oxo bridge prior to the Reversitol?

Todd

Dave P · 02-23-2009, 12:17 AM

It would be expensive.