Bodybuilding.com Forums
Old 01-12-2009, 06:49 AM   #1
bebigbaby
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Essex, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
Age: 22
Stats: 5'9", 245 lbs
Posts: 61
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 2
bebigbaby will become famous soon enough. (+50)
Visit bebigbaby's BodySpace
Firts Cruise & Blast with some questions

Guys

I`m coming to the end of my 10week 500mg ew test e cycle.

Next week I shall begin "cruising" on 150mg/200mg of test each week for a further 10 weeks and then again blast for ten.

My question relates to my hormones and test levels during the cruise period. I will not be doing any PCT, therefore presumably I need to assit the recovery of my orginal cycle with some HCG or TRT.......Is this the case? Am I best to simply use som HCG???

I am also alittle unsure on my stance with bloodwork. Alot of controversal views in the gym as I will not be doing PCT and usual procedure is 1-2 months after. Should I do this mid-cruise?

I haven`t really seen a massive reductionin my boys shrinking and my old boy is still very energetic.

More importantly, i would think that the HRT is a given so that when i "blast" in ten weeks my receptors will be 100% to gain full potential.....


All thoughts appreciated
__________________
"If you always do as you always did, you`ll always get what you always got!"
bebigbaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2009, 07:48 AM   #2
strength777
Moderator
 
strength777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Stats: 5'8", 210 lbs
Posts: 3,502
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 1043560
strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)
Visit strength777's BodySpace
Quote:
Originally Posted by bebigbaby View Post
Guys

I`m coming to the end of my 10week 500mg ew test e cycle.

Next week I shall begin "cruising" on 150mg/200mg of test each week for a further 10 weeks and then again blast for ten.

My question relates to my hormones and test levels during the cruise period. I will not be doing any PCT, therefore presumably I need to assit the recovery of my orginal cycle with some HCG or TRT.......Is this the case? Am I best to simply use som HCG???

I am also alittle unsure on my stance with bloodwork. Alot of controversal views in the gym as I will not be doing PCT and usual procedure is 1-2 months after. Should I do this mid-cruise?

I haven`t really seen a massive reductionin my boys shrinking and my old boy is still very energetic.

More importantly, i would think that the HRT is a given so that when i "blast" in ten weeks my receptors will be 100% to gain full potential.....


All thoughts appreciated
your 21



why do this????????????
__________________
?If the righteous are barely saved,
what will happen to godless sinners?

Question Authority, Think for yourself
strength777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2009, 06:22 AM   #3
bebigbaby
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Essex, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
Age: 22
Stats: 5'9", 245 lbs
Posts: 61
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 2
bebigbaby will become famous soon enough. (+50)
Visit bebigbaby's BodySpace
Because I want to be a pro bodybuilder and if i can remain on all the time and cruise......

Ok, so this is "suggested" untill alittle later in life but I can`t see why it cant be started at an earlier age.

You concerns??
__________________
"If you always do as you always did, you`ll always get what you always got!"
bebigbaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2009, 07:06 AM   #4
strength777
Moderator
 
strength777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Stats: 5'8", 210 lbs
Posts: 3,502
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 1043560
strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)strength777 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)
Visit strength777's BodySpace
how bout your ability to ever produce testosterone naturally again.

do you ever aspire to have children??
__________________
?If the righteous are barely saved,
what will happen to godless sinners?

Question Authority, Think for yourself
strength777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2009, 02:18 PM   #5
bebigbaby
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Essex, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
Age: 22
Stats: 5'9", 245 lbs
Posts: 61
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 2
bebigbaby will become famous soon enough. (+50)
Visit bebigbaby's BodySpace
not really. i am totally focused on my own goals and i`m not a big fan of small children......not in a bad way but i certainly dont want them. i`d rather have my hard earned money for myself
__________________
"If you always do as you always did, you`ll always get what you always got!"
bebigbaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2009, 02:57 PM   #6
RasputinRules
Micah 4:9
 
RasputinRules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Age: 22
Posts: 381
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 0
RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)RasputinRules is the lowest scum of the boards. (Worst Rank)
Visit RasputinRules's BodySpace
Quote:
Originally Posted by bebigbaby View Post
not really. i am totally focused on my own goals and i`m not a big fan of small children......not in a bad way but i certainly dont want them. i`d rather have my hard earned money for myself
Your 237lbs @ 5'9? We want to see pics, now!

I understand your non-desire for children (even if Strength doesn't). I'll probably be going on TRT soon and had to ponder this issue myself. For me it's a tad simpler because I have bipolar disorder, which makes having kids (especially your own) a complicated affair. People never mention either hat adoption is... an option... and very needed.

Why do you want to be a pro BBer though, thatd be my question?

We all have passions - I have many, but just cuz I like pumping iron doesn't mean that's all I neccisarily think I should be doing. You know how much drugs pros take? Did you know there is a large amount of prostitution in the IFBB, gay prostitution? Are you familiar with the corrupt judging (aka bribery)? Do you want to sweat everytime you walk up stairs?

Think about it
__________________
I REP BACK

When I was a child I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man I put away childish things."
(I Cor. xiii. 11)

REPS ON RECHARGE:
RasputinRules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2009, 03:39 PM   #7
bebigbaby
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Essex, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
Age: 22
Stats: 5'9", 245 lbs
Posts: 61
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 2
bebigbaby will become famous soon enough. (+50)
Visit bebigbaby's BodySpace
Quote:
Originally Posted by RasputinRules View Post
Your 237lbs @ 5'9? We want to see pics, now!

I understand your non-desire for children (even if Strength doesn't). I'll probably be going on TRT soon and had to ponder this issue myself. For me it's a tad simpler because I have bipolar disorder, which makes having kids (especially your own) a complicated affair. People never mention either hat adoption is... an option... and very needed.

Why do you want to be a pro BBer though, thatd be my question?

We all have passions - I have many, but just cuz I like pumping iron doesn't mean that's all I neccisarily think I should be doing. You know how much drugs pros take? Did you know there is a large amount of prostitution in the IFBB, gay prostitution? Are you familiar with the corrupt judging (aka bribery)? Do you want to sweat everytime you walk up stairs?

Think about it
I`ll get some pictures up as soon as i can - im not very computer literate. I hear what your saying about the cons of being a pro BUT at this moment in time its what i want.Fortunately i am in a position where i dont think i`ll have to worry about being buggered by some ifbb judge so that i can buy my next meal. Im not sure if this is strictly true in todays world.

Im sorry to hear about the bipolar. I dont want to go into details over my own non-kid status
__________________
"If you always do as you always did, you`ll always get what you always got!"
bebigbaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2009, 04:29 PM   #8
meathead320
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Minnesota
Age: 28
Posts: 939
Rep Power: 608
meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)meathead320 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)
Feritlity is a bigger issue.

My first suggestion is don't do this. Just PCT and cycle now and then.

The second one is, if you are going to cruise, then go get sperm frozen at a cryolab.

Will cost about 400$ USD to get started, and from 30-50$ USD each month from then on, but worth it.

There is not "deadly" harm in stating HRT at the age of 21, but it does curse you to dependence forever.

At around the age of 40 or so would be less of a loss to be dependent on this , but at your are, that is a lot of time ahead of you of pinning yourself.

Had you been hit in the nads with a baseball bat, at 21, and then had low test and high LH and FSH, then I woudl say yeah, you should be on HRT, but scribed by a doctor, who would likely then have you take a tiny bit of HCG with it to stay fertile.

Just remember, you stay on this long enough, even at low doses, and you will have to use it forever.
meathead320 is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Member Login

Sign in for more FREE features and tools!

Username or
Email Address:
Password:
Remember Me


New to Bodybuilding.com?
Sign Up Now It's FREE!




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:13 PM. Archive