Protein Shake Before AND After Workout?

[WindyKO]

I always work out in the morning and schedule is usually like:

6:00AM wake up
6:15AM drink protein shake
6:30AM start working out

I usually finish around 7:30...do I need to drink another protein shake to recover from the workout or will my usual breakfast of eggs, oatmeal, and toast suffice?

[darcym]

I usually finish around 7:30...do I need to drink another protein shake to recover from the workout or will my usual breakfast of eggs, oatmeal, and toast suffice?

Ya i would take another protein shake afterward, just because you body is primed for nutrients, and the amount of eggs you'd have to eat to get get the same amount of protein as a shake could get a bit much. also the shake is a lot easier to digest in the early morning since your metabolism hasn't fully started up. So eating food might not get the same absorption as a skake.

[DoItUp]

^I agree with the above post, your protein shake has enzymes and other amino acids that eggs do not have so I would take a shake after your workout with your breakfast. But definately stilll take your shake pre workout aswell

[DwithBeneFITPT]

Try having your breakfast before maybe instead of a shake
Digest for 30 mins then take some bcaa's, creatine, and what ever your pre-workout maybe.

After, try something like isopure MASS, after lifting, it has a ton of carbs 35 grams of protein. Is ion exchanges whey isolate, so its good for day time. Try adding a little stevia to it for deliverance.

[bigfrog]

Try having your breakfast before maybe instead of a shake
Digest for 30 mins then take some bcaa's, creatine, and what ever your pre-workout maybe.

After, try something like isopure MASS, after lifting, it has a ton of carbs 35 grams of protein. Is ion exchanges whey isolate, so its good for day time. Try adding a little stevia to it for deliverance.

This...^^^ Except the carbs.

[WindyKO]

Try having your breakfast before maybe instead of a shake
Digest for 30 mins then take some bcaa's, creatine, and what ever your pre-workout maybe.

After, try something like isopure MASS, after lifting, it has a ton of carbs 35 grams of protein. Is ion exchanges whey isolate, so its good for day time. Try adding a little stevia to it for deliverance.

thanks Ill give that a shot. its just so tuff cuz I usually just roll out of bed make protein shake and jump in the car. I like sleeping those extra 20 minutes lulz..

[bigfrog]

thanks Ill give that a shot. its just so tuff cuz I usually just roll out of bed make protein shake and jump in the car. I like sleeping those extra 20 minutes lulz..

Rest is good for you too....

[DwithBeneFITPT]

This...^^^ Except the carbs.

Elaborate on the no carb thing pllleaase mr. bigfrog? :-)

[bigfrog]

Elaborate on the no carb thing pllleaase mr. bigfrog? :-)

I didn't say "no carbs". Carbs give energy and brain function. Carbs are good for this. But if there's a "ton" in one shake then it might go over his chosen value. Balance is key.

[DwithBeneFITPT]

I didn't say "no carbs". Carbs give energy and brain function. Carbs are good for this. But if there's a "ton" in one shake then it might go over his chosen value. Balance is key.

I know i know lol
A ton meaning there are plenty of carbs plenty of vitamins etc...as oppose to the "ZERO CARB" hype people get into.

[flexapeal]

I wouldn't take a protein shake as soon as you wake up. Eat some breakfast , take a energy supp. or drink coffee. Drinking your shake after your workout is plenty enough. Also you may want to drink a protein shake 2 more times later in the day. At bedtime is a good time for a shake.

[magrini08]

you should probably have that protein shake a little earlier in the morning or wait a little longer to workout. it can still take protein powder a half an hour or so to get into your system fully. also, make sure your protein has a high amount of bcaa's in it as well as it will help to prevent muscle breakdown and delay and minimize muscle fatigue and soreness. try giving yourself at least one hour in between breakfast and your workout. make sure you have a pretty high amount of complex carbs in the morning (oatmeal) and a banana or apple along with your protein shake for breakfast. if youre not having carbs for breakfast to get you through your workout, all that protein you just drank to help build your muscles will be used up as energy to make it through your workout!! give it a shot, and good luck

[bigfrog]

Good first post magrini.. Welcome....

[mikeystl09]

i take a weight gainer shake before bed and when i get up. it's loaded with vitamins, aminos, and protein. i also take my whey protein pre and post work out.

[DoItUp]

you uptake approx. 400% more protein if you take it with carbs. So if you are not taking a weight gainer (they're usually loaded with carbs) have complex carbs like what was said above, oatmeal etc...

Taking your protein pre workout is more effective for protein synthesis. If you can take is pre and posst. I know alot of people say taking it post workout is more effective but pre workout is more effective. Before everyone jumps all over me for this I'll explain why

As soon as you start to lift your first weight at the beginning of your workout your muscle starts to break down. This signals your body to signal the proper amino acids to help repair the muscle through protein synthesis. If you do not have very much protein in your system then your body can not start protein synthesis right away. Terefore your muscle cannot be repaired. If you wait until the end of your workout to take your protein then your body will not start protein synthesis until you take your shake which is usually directly after your workout. This is why it is more effective to take a shake pre workout. it is also good to take a shake post workout because your body will be repairing itself throughout the rest of the day and you have apporx. an hour window to take the protein post workout where it s most effective. But if you only can take 1 serving of the protein then take it pre workout.

This is taken from a study on human's done by Dr. David A. Hood of York University. He is one of the top profs around the world who specializes in muscle atrophy and protein synthesis. I dumbed it down alot in what I wrote above, but that is basically the jist of it.

I didn't believe this at first when I did a seminar on the study but after talking to two of my profs (both ex football players) they both explained it somemore and it started making alot more sense.

I take protein pre and post workout, but pre workout if for some reason I can only take it once. So far I have felt less DOMS now that could all be in my head but I have seemed to notice less pain the next day.

And the stat about you uptaking apprx 400%more protein if you take it with carbs, is also from the same study.

[magrini08]

thanks bigfrog.....just doing my part to help!! everyone needs it every once in a while

[magrini08]

DoItUp hit the nail on the head about the higher amount of protein absorbtion when taken with carbs!!!! if your protein shake doesnt have a decent amount of carbs in it, which most dont, try to get some fast digesting carbs down with the shake. white breads and melon fruits (watermelon especially, or honey dew are some examples). try to make sure the white bread is whole grain white bread. you could even add a moderate amount of sugar or some kind of chocolate or strawberry syrup in the blender when you mix your shake. this should be done post-workout ONLY!! sugar stores way to easily as fat if not burned off immediately

[DoItUp]

DoItUp hit the nail on the head about the higher amount of protein absorbtion when taken with carbs!!!! if your protein shake doesnt have a decent amount of carbs in it, which most dont, try to get some fast digesting carbs down with the shake. white breads and melon fruits (watermelon especially, or honey dew are some examples). try to make sure the white bread is whole grain white bread. you could even add a moderate amount of sugar or some kind of chocolate or strawberry syrup in the blender when you mix your shake. this should be done post-workout ONLY!! sugar stores way to easily as fat if not burned off immediately

^makes sense. I'm just wondering of you could potentially do the same thing for a pre-workout shake if it was taken right before your workout. Since simple sugars would be burned off within the first bit of your workout, and then you wouldn't have to worry about storing it as fat. It would also help you uptake the protein.

[magrini08]

yea you could do that preworkout...simple carbs will only last for the first half of your workout or so. thats why 30-50 grams of complex carbs are best for lasting the length of bout with the weights. the protein absorbption will still take place with the complex carbs thats why the sugar or syrup is not necessary as long as you get complex carbs as your breakfast along with your shake

[neatofrito1618]

DoItUp hit the nail on the head about the higher amount of protein absorbtion when taken with carbs!!!! if your protein shake doesnt have a decent amount of carbs in it, which most dont, try to get some fast digesting carbs down with the shake. white breads and melon fruits (watermelon especially, or honey dew are some examples). try to make sure the white bread is whole grain white bread. you could even add a moderate amount of sugar or some kind of chocolate or strawberry syrup in the blender when you mix your shake. this should be done post-workout ONLY!! sugar stores way to easily as fat if not burned off immediately

I agree, the only thing I have to add is that bread is complex carbs not simple carbs. You're going to want some kind of fruit.

[DoItUp]

white bread or breads made with white flour are simple carbs

-but getting back to what was said earlier, If a person took complex carbs with their pre and post workout shake, that would still allow for protein absorbtion, so do you really need to take a source of simple carbs if your are already eating complex carbs?

[magrini08]

DoItUp has got my back and knows whats going on.....only whole wheat/whole grain breads are complex carbs!! and yes add a banana to your breakfast. oatmeal, banana and 30-50 grams of whey protein with bcaa's = breakfast of champions!!

[mikeystl09]

white bread or breads made with white flour are simple carbs

-but getting back to what was said earlier, If a person took complex carbs with their pre and post workout shake, that would still allow for protein absorbtion, so do you really need to take a source of simple carbs if your are already eating complex carbs?

yea you could do that preworkout...simple carbs will only last for the first half of your workout or so. thats why 30-50 grams of complex carbs are best for lasting the length of bout with the weights. the protein absorbption will still take place with the complex carbs thats why the sugar or syrup is not necessary as long as you get complex carbs as your breakfast along with your shake

I just had this discussion with someone at the gym last nite, generally you take complex carbs whole wheat/ grain products before your work out. it digests slower and gives you sustain energy through out the day. post work out you would want to take a simple carb. your body is glycogen depleted so you need to get the carbs back in. white bread is a fast absorbing carb. this guy told me he eats three slices after his work out. i drink a sports drink to get my carbs.

[magrini08]

no you wont need the simple carbs at all DoItUp. Mykie Mike is right, though, you should have some form of simple carb after your workout. thats when you should add like a flavored syrup in your blender with your protein and fruit. and if your workout is lasting a lot longer than an hour you should probably bring a gatorade with you to keep your glycogen stores up and keep your blood sugar levels regulated. postworkout is also the one time you want to spike your insulin levels, and a sports drink will help with that.

[LayinLo]

^makes sense. I'm just wondering of you could potentially do the same thing for a pre-workout shake if it was taken right before your workout. Since simple sugars would be burned off within the first bit of your workout, and then you wouldn't have to worry about storing it as fat. It would also help you uptake the protein.

Don't forget that the simple carbs spike your insulin levels. Not too good of a thing pre workout. Very good for post workout though.