Universal Real Gains OR Mutant Mass

**user19** · 01-05-2009, 04:41 PM

About to order a 'weight gainer' to help with my bulking.
Between
Mutant Mass
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pvl/mutantmass.html

Universal Real gains
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/real.html

Is the quality of these 2 gainers equal? Not going to be to fussy on taste just want to know what ingredient profile is best.

-Thanks

**michael3435** · 01-05-2009, 04:50 PM

in before people recommend real gains without looking at mutant mass' profile.

mutant mass ingredient profile is better by far.

**jbodybuilder** · 01-05-2009, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by michael3435

in before people recommend real gains without looking at mutant mass' profile.

mutant mass ingredient profile is better by far.

Even with 170g of carbs per serving?

**user19** · 01-05-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by jbodybuilder

Even with 170g of carbs per serving?

I will be taking it in the morning and most likely only be taking 2scoops.
-Isn't it good to get a lot of carbs in before you hit the weights anyways?

**user19** · 01-05-2009, 06:36 PM

bump.. want to order before i go to bed:S

Any other help with what one has the better ingredient profile?

-Thanks

**dogonfire** · 01-05-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by user19

bump.. want to order before i go to bed:S

Any other help with what one has the better ingredient profile?

-Thanks

I would personally go for real gains just because you can get twice the servings for the same price as Mutant Mass. Mutant Mass has a little more isoleucine and valine, but Real Gains should be more than enough. And yes, carbs are good pre-workout, so it'd be good to take either before a workout.

**SPACECLOWN** · 01-05-2009, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by michael3435

in before people recommend real gains without looking at mutant mass' profile.

mutant mass ingredient profile is better by far.

1050 cals
18g fat
170g carbs (29g sugar)
52g protein

Yeah I'll pass and stick with Real Gains

**user19** · 01-05-2009, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by SPACECLOWN

1050 cals
18g fat
170g carbs (29g sugar)
52g protein

Yeah I'll pass and stick with Real Gains

Why... because of the amount of carbs?

**Death Head** · 01-05-2009, 07:04 PM

mutant mass' profile is way better than any gainer ive looked at and you can get 15lbs for 56.99 at a certain site. pm for site. i just got mine today

**SPACECLOWN** · 01-05-2009, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by user19

Why... because of the amount of carbs?

29g of sugar and 18g of fat .. well hell yeah you are going to make gains... fat gains. Not sure your size but 1000+ cal (not including milk) is a ****load for most.

**michael3435** · 01-05-2009, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by jbodybuilder

Even with 170g of carbs per serving?

what are you talking about? this is a gainer, you need a ton of carbs...and its carb profile of barley starch (low gi carb) is superior to real gains use of maltodextrin (high gi).

Originally Posted by SPACECLOWN

1050 cals
18g fat
170g carbs (29g sugar)
52g protein

Yeah I'll pass and stick with Real Gains

please explain how this is bad or how real gains is better.

**Weakestlink** · 01-05-2009, 07:19 PM

That profile is ridiculous. Even after a workout your body does not need that many carbs. The sugar content is through the roof as is the fat (muscle milk had that much fat content and they reduced it for a reason).

**user19** · 01-05-2009, 07:25 PM

I will be taking 2 scoops that makes it roughly 500cals + milk which is a little more reasonable.. and it will last that much longer.
Seems like its 50/50 to as which profile is better :S

**QBplayer** · 01-05-2009, 07:28 PM

and between mutan mass and weider mega mass 4000, what is the best one??

**SIRT1** · 01-05-2009, 07:34 PM

Make your own

Whey protein
Natty PB
Oats
Yogurt/fruit

All these gainer's out there are garbage. They use cheap ingredients which will only make you fat and spike your insulin through the roof !!

Take the 5 minutes to make a quality gainer.

**MajorCajones** · 01-05-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Weakestlink

That profile is ridiculous. Even after a workout your body does not need that many carbs. The sugar content is through the roof as is the fat (muscle milk had that much fat content and they reduced it for a reason).

thats also 4 scoops

take one or two(whatever floats your boat)

plus mutant masses carb source

plus its great price

its all about bang for buck

**michael3435** · 01-05-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by user19

I will be taking 2 scoops that makes it roughly 500cals + milk which is a little more reasonable.. and it will last that much longer.
Seems like its 50/50 to as which profile is better :S

as with all gainers that have above 800 cals, i would cut the dosage in half and drink at different times throughout the day

the sugar content is NOT high, a serving of grape juice has 38g of sugar. also, the fat content is not saturated or trans fat, but rather different oils (good fat). i suggest people read the ingredient list before making conclusions. the carb source is also low GI (making it better for body composition)in my honest opinion, this gainer may be my new favorite along with up your mass.

**Chaosvash** · 01-05-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by MajorCajones

thats also 4 scoops

take one or two(whatever floats your boat)

plus mutant masses carb source

plus its great price

its all about bang for buck

At 1 or 2 scoops you don't get as much protein as real gains, at full serving its VERY expensive and if you buy a carb supp seperatly and add to real gains it will still probably be cheaper per serving (even though real gains has enough carbs as it is), also it has 29g of sugar and 18g which not everyone wants (even in a gainer), oh and did I mention its expensive as ****?

**QBplayer** · 01-05-2009, 07:40 PM

between mega mass 4000 and mutan?

**SIRT1** · 01-05-2009, 07:40 PM

I wouldn't buy either one but mutant mass has a better ingredient profile.

**MajorCajones** · 01-05-2009, 07:41 PM

bull****
mutant mass
15 lbs for 73 bucks

real gains

just under 14 lbs(6.85 + 6.85 lbs) 72 bucks

**michael3435** · 01-05-2009, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Chaosvash

At 1 or 2 scoops you don't get as much protein as real gains, at full serving its VERY expensive and if you buy a carb supp seperatly and add to real gains it will still probably be cheaper per serving (even though real gains has enough carbs as it is), also it has 29g of sugar and 18g which not everyone wants (even in a gainer), oh and did I mention its expensive as ****?

dude, its a low gi carb. the carbs sources are not the same and mutant mass' is far superior. body composition wise, a sugar will be no different than the maltodextrin added to real gains.

**MajorCajones** · 01-05-2009, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Chaosvash

At 1 or 2 scoops you don't get as much protein as real gains, at full serving its VERY expensive and if you buy a carb supp seperatly and add to real gains it will still probably be cheaper per serving (even though real gains has enough carbs as it is), also it has 29g of sugar and 18g which not everyone wants (even in a gainer), oh and did I mention its expensive as ****?

at 1 or 2 scoops, its nearly the same amount of protein as real gains

(4 scoops of mutant mass protein = 3.5 scoops of real gains protein)

**SIRT1** · 01-05-2009, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by michael3435

dude, its a low gi carb. the carbs sources are not the same and mutant mass' is far superior. body composition wise, a sugar will be no different than the maltodextrin added to real gains.

He is right^^^ Malto spikes your insulin more than sugar

**user19** · 01-05-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by SIRT1

Make your own

Whey protein
Natty PB
Oats
Yogurt/fruit

All these gainer's out there are garbage. They use cheap ingredients which will only make you fat and spike your insulin through the roof !!

Take the 5 minutes to make a quality gainer.

I have been making my own weight gainers.. first thing in the morning i just rather drink a 'weight gainer' shake and follow it by a real breakfest 1-2 hours after.
-Post workout i don't have the 5mins to make a gainer within 60-90mins of my workout. So again i want to drink a premade 'weight gainer' shake and follow it by a real meal when i'm home.

**Chaosvash** · 01-05-2009, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by MajorCajones

bull****
mutant mass
15 lbs for 73 bucks

real gains

just under 14 lbs(6.85 + 6.85 lbs) 72 bucks

Real gains 6.85lbs= 21 servings at 35.99

Mutant mass = 26 serving at 72.99

And the only diffrence is that Mutant mass has more fat and more carbs+sugar.

Next time read the label instead of comparing by pounds.

**michael3435** · 01-05-2009, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Chaosvash

Real gains 6.85lbs= 21 servings at 35.99

Mutant mass = 26 serving at 72.99

And the only diffrence is that Mutant mass has more fat and more carbs+sugar.

Next time read the label instead of comparing by pounds.

wow, you have not read anything i posted, huh?

**Chaosvash** · 01-05-2009, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by michael3435

wow, you have not read anything i posted, huh?

Yes Mutant Mass carbs are far more superior, hence the price.

In terms of results for your money I would rather buy Real Gains.

**michael3435** · 01-05-2009, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Chaosvash

Yes Mutant Mass carbs are far more superior, hence the price.

In terms of results for your money I would rather buy Real Gains.

it also

1. has not nearly as much sugar as your making it out to be. a serving of grape juice has more sugar
2. it uses GOOD fat
3. the prices per serving are the same if you cut mutant mass in half. the ingredients are of higher quality as well.
4. the op did not ask about price or value

**QBplayer** · 01-05-2009, 08:02 PM

weider 4000 or mutan??

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