Creatine + ..?

newyorkgreg · 01-04-2009, 05:55 PM

I'm looking to take a creatine product, with protein. If I take the combination, will I gain a lot of weight? I'm asking because I'm looking to get a six pack - which I'm working on now.

I was looking at this Creatine:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mt/cellhard.html

Any recommendations?

tallthing · 01-04-2009, 06:21 PM

look up
higher power creatine
sportpharma just creatine
prolab creatine
on creatine

always stick with either micronized or creapure.
if you can get both in 1 thats great.

you'll gain water weight as long as you take it but it goes away after you get off of it. you gain a little weight and you gain some strength.

in10city · 01-04-2009, 06:49 PM

Unless you need the amount of sugar that could power a room full of kindergarteners, pass on the Cell-Tech. I would opt for a Creapure product of your choosing from among others - Prolab, Universal, Sportpharma, ISS, Allmax, Ultimate and ON.

Death Head · 01-04-2009, 06:51 PM

just mix your protein with creatine. there are weight gainers which have protein, creatine and carbs

quank · 01-04-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in10city

Unless you need the amount of sugar that could power a room full of kindergarteners, pass on the Cell-Tech.

Lol, that's a good one.

newyorkgreg · 01-04-2009, 06:54 PM

Ok cool, so I would take my Whey Protein AND Creatine after my workout. Also, do you think I'll gain a lot of weight from this - because I'm looking to get my six pack.

357mag · 01-04-2009, 06:59 PM

How about REPS by Supp. Direct w/o the caffeine? Just a suggestion from me. Might want to also pick up some Alpha Lipoic Acid and some L-Leucine or BCAA's.

Death Head · 01-04-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newyorkgreg

Ok cool, so I would take my Whey Protein AND Creatine after my workout. Also, do you think I'll gain a lot of weight from this - because I'm looking to get my six pack.

youre looking to get a sixpack from gaining weight wtf?

357mag · 01-04-2009, 07:07 PM

It is possible to lose bodyfat and gain weight depending on genetics, supplementation and workout program. I actually did this for 8-9 months of non-stop working out and lifting, sleeping, supplementation and force feeding. Genetically, I have a hard time gaining fat and muscle for that matter. A few times I tried manipulating my diet a little to try to lose fat and generally found myself losing muscle and getting a little bit of my six pack back but at the cost of hard earned muscle. I would rather gain muscle slowly and keep my fat in check, if not decrease it, then to "bulk" up and lose some quality muscle in the process. I have no problem with this idea, in fact, I might be bigger if I did it this way, I just don't like to. Usually for me, if I take my supplements (non-hormonal) and work out 5 days a week and eat somewhat healthier foods but a lot of them, I can put on about 1lb. a month. nothing to get excited about but nothing to diss either. Generally, if I do this and do it correctly, I can put on pure muscle while maintaining if not losing BF%. Maybe I'm not actually losing fat but adding muscle and changing the BF% ratio in my favor but it can work. I am not at my peak, ATM as I have had an ongoing weightlifting injury that I believe is rectified and plan on working out again. I do plan on "bulking" up per say and increasing the visibility of my ab muscles also. My personal theory on the matter is building muscle in any part of the body increased the size (obviously), hence decreasing the general area fat % in that area. I don't know why I have never heard this in a magazine or anything since they have proven target training is useless (I don't buy it, sure you might have a hard time losing 30lbs. around your belly to show your abs, but losing that last bit of fat by doing ab exercises would at least benefit you IMO). I work with a guy has the biggest calves a natural BB would want, he never worked out to get them, he just carries a lot of excess weight around. Guess what? He can't pinch a millimeter of fat on them either. I on the other hand can pinch more fat on my calves than anywhere else on my body (aside from my stomach). Genetics? Maybe, but I still think you can spot reduce to a degree regardless of what is proven or dis-proven. Do a 5 day split, take your creatine, increase your metabolism from working out so much, increase your metabolism from eating every 2-3hours, increase your metabolism from building that extra muscle and I would be willing to bet you could start to see more ab definition if you do it properly.

I'm not trying to diss anyone either. I just feel that, depending on your genetics and hormonal profile (whether natural or otherwise), you can have the best of both worlds and make continued progress without having to stop and go "backwards". Dave Draper believed in a weekend bulk. In his opinion, bulking up was not a good way to go about things. He thought a weekend bulk was a better way. After maintaining or starving your muscles for a few days, pigging out would help release natural growth hormones that would help with growth, all the while keeping you fat in check. I personally have never tried this and think DD is a different breed all of his own but do think this actually doesn't sound like a half bad idea.