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Old 12-31-2008, 04:32 AM   #1
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behind the neck press?

what exact part of shoulders does this excercise develope?
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Old 12-31-2008, 04:57 AM   #2
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what exact part of shoulders does this excercise develope?
posterior delt, i think.
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Old 12-31-2008, 05:07 AM   #3
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posterior delt, i think.
no......it develops the entire shoulder, with the emphasis, despite the positioning, on the front delt.
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no......it develops the entire shoulder, with the emphasis, despite the positioning, on the front delt.
ahh. that makes sense.
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Hits alll three heads, mainly the anterior (front), then medial (side), and lastly posterior (back).
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:11 AM   #7
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no......it develops the entire shoulder, with the emphasis, despite the positioning, on the front delt.
And at the same time it minimizes upper chest involvement in the exercise. I do however feel it in my medial head more when I use the HS press version [I don't do the barbell].
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:34 AM   #8
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my trainer says its bad for the spine.is this true?
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:36 AM   #9
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my trainer says its bad for the spine.is this true?
no.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:38 AM   #10
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No.

It's like every other lift; it's only bad if it's performed wrong. TBH I'm suprised the whole train of idiots sayin "zomg rotator cuff noes!!11" hasn't rolled through this thread yet.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:53 AM   #11
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Not bad if performed wrong, bad if you lack the flexibility.
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You contradict yourself there.

Lacking flexibility is what makes people perform it wrong. You say lack of flexibility is bad therefore performing it wrong is bad.
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Personally i DON'T do them.

IF you choose to do them and you start feeling pain, STOP. This movement puts your shoulder joint in a conpromising position.
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Personally i DON'T do them.

IF you choose to do them and you start feeling pain, STOP. This movement puts your shoulder joint in a conpromising position.

The same can be said for normal overhead presses:

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Personally i DON'T do them.

IF you choose to do them and you start feeling pain, STOP. This movement puts your shoulder joint in a conpromising position.
I stopped doing behind the head a long time ago. I had my left shoulder dislocated in high school football and 2x's in college football. That angle behind the head always inflamed the shoulder, so I stopped. I just do them in front now, and even sometimes that bothers me. Doctor said I need surgery, but I can keep going without surger as long as I can stand the pain. I don't want to be cut on.
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i just do them to the front
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zomg, rotator cuffs!!!

in all seriousness, if you're insufficiently flexible, dont do it. if you are, by all means, they do isolate the shoulders better. front and back presses differ in stretch and stress, front is more of a natural movement. the difference in degree of risk of injury is there.
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