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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    I agree on this site there can be a lot of lieing that can happen. It can be very restrive like meet only but really I'd like to keep it open to newbies as well get get them more involved and motivated.

    Keeping it open to gym lifts allow that. If you hit a squat PR the post up an update to your numbers. I think the list should be of everyones all time PR's no mater of meet or gym.

    I think this is where we are at now. Deciding on what goes in.
    i agree with both you and Assasin.

    I think for guys who have competed, you should really only use your competition numbers as they're mostly assured of being quality numbers. (as in properly performed and they are after all what the sport is about)

    for newbies they should be highly encouraged to compete, but gym lifts with video would be acceptable because we all know of times where we'd love to compete..but the nearest meet is a state away, or in 12 weeks time or something.

    for gym lifters who have no plans to compete...i guess videos are ok...but still I would like to see them compete if they want to have a total. I don't think gym lifting w/o competing should be encouraged as "powerlifting"
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    i agree with both you and Assasin.

    I think for guys who have competed, you should really only use your competition numbers as they're mostly assured of being quality numbers. (as in properly performed and they are after all what the sport is about)

    for newbies they should be highly encouraged to compete, but gym lifts with video would be acceptable because we all know of times where we'd love to compete..but the nearest meet is a state away, or in 12 weeks time or something.

    for gym lifters who have no plans to compete...i guess videos are ok...but still I would like to see them compete if they want to have a total. I don't think gym lifting w/o competing should be encouraged as "powerlifting"
    I would hope that a thread like this and posting in it would encourgage people to compete and want to compete. Making this almost a stepping ground in getting experience from even figuring out what a total is and what are rankings. Some newbies don't think of the big picture that in powerlifting it is the total that counts.

    Seems to me kind of split between
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    i think that we should have three lists. one for RAW. one for single ply, and one for multi ply. each by wilks/ shwartz formula with a list of the top 20 lifters in each.
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    i think that we should have three lists. one for RAW. one for single ply, and one for multi ply. each by wilks/ shwartz formula with a list of the top 20 lifters in each.
    That would be a lot more work for the maintainer of the list.
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    im fine with how the list is. ill go against all. treat this as open divisions and no sub-catagories.
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    Kwl idea, but will probably be hard to maintain + im sure msny arguments will ensue. Might as well try it out though.

    Are you going to change the list everytime someone gets a pr though?
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    Kwl idea, but will probably be hard to maintain + im sure msny arguments will ensue. Might as well try it out though.

    Are you going to change the list everytime someone gets a pr though?
    Maintainer of the list should try and keep up posts to add or modify. I would say up to a 10 day or less turn around should be expected from the time a entry is posted to when the list is updated.
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    I'd like to hear more opinions on what qualifies an entry onto the list.

    I think I'm still leaning more towards keeping it open for now but definitely see the side of wanting to keep it to meet results and gym lifts with video.

    If it is to be restricted I also like the idea of allowing those that have a consistent running journal here in the pl subforum and lifters with solid standing here in the pl forum. That should help promote quality participation.


    Edit: lol, I feel like I've posted more in this thread then I've ever posted anywhere else on this forum.
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    I like the idea of keeping it to meet/gym lifts with vids.

    I think this would make it easier if Arlecchino decides to use this for the Best Lifter.. etc. thread he started. (I think he said something of that sorts anyway)
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    My humble opinion is that a video or a meet result should be required, or if they have a long running journel.
    Not too tight restrictions imo, simply to stop e-stating. People can add alot to their lifts my using straps, hitching, bouncing, squating high etc though, so idk if how usefull journels are.
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    Seems like meet results/and gym vids are more popular and a way to go.


    One person had an idea of requiring top 5 to have vid or meet results. How about those in the top 5 in the wilks rankings need to provide meet results or vids of gym lifts.

    All others can either be open or if still want to restrcit then to also allow those that have a solid standing or long running journal here? Does that make any sense? or am I starting to make this to complicated
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    Seems like meet results/and gym vids are more popular and a way to go.


    One person had an idea of requiring top 5 to have vid or meet results. How about those in the top 5 in the wilks rankings need to provide meet results or vids of gym lifts.

    All others can either be open or if still want to restrcit then to also allow those that have a solid standing or long running journal here? Does that make any sense? or am I starting to make this to complicated
    that seems good, having the top people require vids.

    ill try to get vids of mine even if im not in the top, but not sure i can bring a video camera into my gym
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    that seems good, having the top people require vids.

    ill try to get vids of mine even if im not in the top, but not sure i can bring a video camera into my gym
    It could be top 3 too. I don't really care. The less restrictions the easier it will be to maintain and more likely that it will stay more updated and keep going for a longer period of time.
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    I guess you can put me on. Im sure people know my stats are legit since i do compete.

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    I came up with 434.42 for the wilks. Using: http://tsampa.org/training/scripts/relative_strength/

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    Originally Posted by GRAYHORSE View Post
    I guess you can put me on. Im sure people know my stats are legit since i do compete.

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    Originally Posted by Arlecchino View Post
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    The wilks score is ages 14-22, idk if that changes anything.
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    Originally Posted by samsuperjew View Post
    so is there gonna be a sticky w/ all our numbers? or is this stayin in this thread
    it'll eventually get out of this thread... we're working through the details right now. I've just been keeping the list updated just for fun right now and shouldn't be concidered official yet.
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    Originally Posted by rugby121 View Post
    Rugby121.........173..........375/220/450.....1045.........6.04xbw.......353.8355....... Ra w

    The wilks score is ages 14-22, idk if that changes anything.
    Im probably 10-20 lbs higher on bench and dead now though
    yeah age will change the wilks. I don't think the list should use age divisions though.
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    Originally Posted by DaBurg3r View Post
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