How to work your calves and abs

[brherper]

I just switched to a 5 day split and was wondering how I should include these muscles.
I have never worked abs before but since im going to start paying attention to diet, I would like abs to be visible with less BF.
Now, with calves, I worked them 3 days a week. They BARELY started to grow. On this 5 day split, Im doubting that it will be enough only working them once a week. Also with abs, Im wondering how muscles build only working them once a week with light weights(lower back problems..) Any recomendations?

[artm]

no need to work calves 3 times a week
work them once a week same with abs

[brherper]

You think abs will catch up with reps of 15-20?
Also, would you recommend calves get heavy weight low reps?
I was to a point of doing Mon-4x15, wed-4x25, fri-4x6-8. this seemed to be working......

[Requiem15]

what ur gonna need to do is fill up a bathtub with pepto bismal, get 2 kid cuisines just for the brownies then sacrafice a lamb or sheep.

then lick your own butthole for the lulz

[artm]

personally i cant tell you **** about abs because i dont work them out and i dont have them

but what i do for calves is
2 warm up sets of 10. about 1/2 weight of a working set
and then do 4 working sets of 10, 8, 6,6, (increase weight as reps get lower)

[brherper]

Ill give that a shot for a few months.
Anyone want to chime in for abs? I tried licking my butthole but couldnt reach.......

[Requiem15]

Ill give that a shot for a few months.
Anyone want to chime in for abs? I tried licking my butthole but couldnt reach.......

if u can grab a dumbbell (i use 25lbs) and get on the delcine situp machine. put the dumbbell behind your head and do sets of 10

[artm]

Anyone want to chime in for abs? I tried licking my butthole but couldnt reach.......

practice makes perfect
you have to try some more



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[Requiem15]

practice makes perfect
you have to try some more

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