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Official Weightlifting Competition Thread
OP edited to reflect current totals of all participating lifters:
MALE
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Name_____________Bodyweight (kg)__Snatch/Clean&Jerk (kg)__Sinclair(age-adjusted)
chris.L ............ 88 ......... 120 / 155 ............... 320.731
CHS55 .............. 84 ......... 105 / 135 ............... 287.516
Quarter Nelson ..... 66.6 ........ 87.5 / 122.5 ............. 282.350
Madaozeki .......... 61.5 ........ 81 / 100 ............... 281.277
r_graz ............. 74.5 ........ 82 / 100 ............... 275.109
gewaltiger ......... 87 .......... 93 / 125 ............... 254.464
J.L.C............... 82.4 ........ 91 / 112 ............... 252.429
Baker19 ............ 72.5 ........ 85 / 108 ............... 250.000
isaku900 ........... 125 ........ 100 / 140 ............... 247.859
SNATCHTHAT ......... 88 .......... 90 / 120 ............... 244.922
thesunlessea ....... 71.5 ........ 77 / 102 ............... 234.353
Marc27Default ...... 105 ......... 97.5 / 118.5 ............. 233.880
lewdog_5 ........... 83.6 ........ 84 / 110 ............... 232.962
Sergis ............. 90 .......... 85 / 110 ............... 226.110
crackyflipside ..... 80 .......... 80 / 105 ............... 224.197
Mr Ben ............. 93 .......... 84 / 100 ............... 209.268
The_Taubes ......... 84 .......... 68 / 84 ............... 181.385
GoJu ............... 93 .......... 70 / 90 ............... 181.972
SquatzAndpuke ...... 72 .......... 61 / 75 ............... 177.308
dcamnc ............. 73 .......... 56 / 73 ............... 176.479
d34dlift ........... 61 .......... 50 / 70 ............... 175.014
zogorion ........... 86 .......... 61 / 79 ............... 165.108
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Name_____________Bodyweight (kg)__Snatch/Clean&Jerk (kg)__Sinclair(age-adjusted)
slyng .............. 47.9 ........ 42 / 52 ............... 143.829
seosaid ............ 58 .......... 40 / 65 ............... 137.970
Last edited by Arlecchino; 02-22-2009 at 06:53 AM.
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mezzie
Originally Posted by Arlecchino
Thought of recognizing some people for their achievements over the course of the year. Categories would include:
Most improved (meet total to meet total)
Best total
Best lifter (formula)
Meet results, of course.
Other suggestions welcome.
Not sure we have enough lifters competing in this section to make "most improved" work... most seem to be new lifters trying to get form down.
We could definitely have a "Virtual Olympic Lifting Competition", which could just be best gym/competition lifts at a given bodyweight, ranked by Sinclair score. Video evidence would be encouraged, but not mandatory.
Best total isn't very meaningful in Olympic lifting since the larger lifters would dominate. The weight classes are very finely delineated in Olympic lifting, much more so than powerlifting. It's almost (but not quite) unheard of for a lifter of a particular class totalling more than the winner of a higher class (Vardanian, Sulymanoglu are notable exceptions and complete freaks of nature).
We wouldn't even need to divide up into Bodyweight classes; just list the weight you were when you made the lifts and the Sinclair takes care of the rest!
Example
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair (age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
You can calculate your Sinclair here:
Sinclair Calculator
I could volunteer to organize the thread and do the rankings, etc.
If you're only power-snatching or power-cleaning, that's OK too!
We could start it as a PR thread with rankings in the first post, and then come up with awards by the end of the year as people improve
Last edited by madaozeki; 01-01-2009 at 08:09 AM.
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Great Idea!!
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
The year in the topic title should probably be changed to 2009 if we were to start this up.
Once we get more members willing to participate we can give awards (reps) every couple of weeks/months for certain categories.
Highest Sinclair
Best overall total
Best total - by weightclass/bodyweight
Holding a #1 ranking for x amount of time (days, weeks, etc)
Best improvement - (monthly)
Personally, I think video footage should be required when you post a new max, but I realize not everyone might have a camera so we can have a poll for this later.
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Mr Ben, race you to a 90kg snatch!!! My current PR is 82.5 but at a heavier bodyweight.
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
Mr Ben, race you to a 90kg snatch!!!  My current PR is 82.5 but at a heavier bodyweight.
You got yourself a bet! I think I'll max out next month when I'm finished with the next phase of my training.
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Originally Posted by Mr Ben
You got yourself a bet!  I think I'll max out next month when I'm finished with the next phase of my training.
Excellent 
I only managed to snatch on a platform a half-dozen times last year, so I'll do my best to get myself lifting much more often to make a proper run at it!
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
Excellent
I only managed to snatch on a platform a half-dozen times last year, so I'll do my best to get myself lifting much more often to make a proper run at it!
Ah you jerk. Your sinclair is almost exactly tied with mine, with you being in the lead. :[
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
Not sure we have enough lifters competing in this section to make "most improved" work... most seem to be new lifters trying to get form down.
We could definitely have a "Virtual Olympic Lifting Competition", which could just be best gym/competition lifts at a given bodyweight, ranked by Sinclair score. Video evidence would be encouraged, but not mandatory.
Best total isn't very meaningful in Olympic lifting since the larger lifters would dominate. The weight classes are very finely delineated in Olympic lifting, much more so than powerlifting. It's almost (but not quite) unheard of for a lifter of a particular class totalling more than the winner of a higher class (Vardanian, Sulymanoglu are notable exceptions and complete freaks of nature).
We wouldn't even need to divide up into Bodyweight classes; just list the weight you were when you made the lifts and the Sinclair takes care of the rest!
Example
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair (age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
You can calculate your Sinclair here:
Sinclair Calculator
I could volunteer to organize the thread and do the rankings, etc.
If you're only power-snatching or power-cleaning, that's OK too!
We could start it as a PR thread with rankings in the first post, and then come up with awards by the end of the year as people improve
Well, total is important as the overall strongest, as well as Sinclair, hence my suggestions of both. That way overall strongest gets the recognition for it as well as best by coefficient. Same way in PL'ing, honestly, but this way there is something for everyone.
And yes, power versions of lifts are fine, since they are comp legal.
Originally Posted by Mr Ben
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
The year in the topic title should probably be changed to 2009 if we were to start this up.
Once we get more members willing to participate we can give awards (reps) every couple of weeks/months for certain categories.
Highest Sinclair
Best overall total
Best total - by weightclass/bodyweight
Holding a #1 ranking for x amount of time (days, weeks, etc)
Best improvement - (monthly)
Personally, I think video footage should be required when you post a new max, but I realize not everyone might have a camera so we can have a poll for this later.
This thread is for what people have alread done, because this section does not get as much attention as some of the other ones. Largely because it is quieter.

See below.
Originally Posted by CHS55
Ah you jerk. Your sinclair is almost exactly tied with mine, with you being in the lead. :[
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
If you tie, lighter bodyweight lifter wins.
Virtual comp for PLing thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113028291
Will be less work, since there are no where near as many lifters here.
Madaozeki - thread is all yours, thanks. We can discuss awards as well. I would say no more than every three months, IMO.
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Originally Posted by CHS55
Ah you jerk. Your sinclair is almost exactly tied with mine, with you being in the lead. :[
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
CHS55 - Keep in mind my Sinclair is age-adjusted since I'm a Master's lifer! I we were the same age you'd be well ahead 
Well, total is important as the overall strongest, as well as Sinclair, hence my suggestions of both. That way overall strongest gets the recognition for it as well as best by coefficient. Same way in PL'ing, honestly, but this way there is something for everyone.
I suppose... it seems to me that the Wilkes formula is a LOT friendlier to heavier lifters than a Sinclair is, so the strongest lifters will tend to have the best Wilkes formulas. Is that wrong?
In case people aren't aware, the Sinclair is a co-efficient adjustment that's supposed to indicate the weight you would lift if you were a Super-Heavyweight. So in my case, my Sinclair is around 280, which means if I were a Super-Heavyweight my equivalent lifts would be something like 125/155.
Madaozeki - thread is all yours, thanks. We can discuss awards as well. I would say no more than every three months, IMO.
Arlecchino, it would be nice to keep the tally in a single post at the top of the thread (though people have been awesome about maintaining the formatting when copy/pasting!). How can I edit the top post to organize the competition? Should we start a new thread?
Last edited by madaozeki; 01-02-2009 at 06:50 AM.
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
Arlecchino, it would be nice to keep the tally in a single post at the top of the thread (though people have been awesome about maintaining the formatting when copy/pasting!). How can I edit the top post to organize the competition? Should we start a new thread?
Since there are not that many entrants, we will stick with Sinclair only. I like things simple.
You cannot keep editing the top post of any thread. After 24 hours, only a mod of that section can do so. So we can start a new thread for the rankings, and then just PM me with edits to the OP. It will become a sticky here.
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KNEES GO PAST TOES
Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972
nice thread, I have a meet next week where I'll be posting my first total in my new weight class (85's), I'll probably weigh in at 81-83kg or so, my squat is stronger than when I was a 94 and I'm power cleaning 80kg for reps and I've hang snatched 65kg so hopefully my little weights will be a little less pathetic by comparison next week, lol
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mezzie
Originally Posted by GoJu
nice thread, I have a meet next week where I'll be posting my first total in my new weight class (85's), I'll probably weigh in at 81-83kg or so, my squat is stronger than when I was a 94 and I'm power cleaning 80kg for reps and I've hang snatched 65kg so hopefully my little weights will be a little less pathetic by comparison next week, lol
GoJu as an 85, awesome! The lighter you get the more impressive your lifts sound. I've been living off my time as a 62kg lifter for a long time now!
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
GoJu as an 85, awesome! The lighter you get the more impressive your lifts sound. I've been living off my time as a 62kg lifter for a long time now! 
thanks, I feel less fat as an 85 too though my coach has said at my height I could be a 105, lol; hand injury among other things forced me to stop training for 3 months so I lost like 12kg or so, lol, I'm just trying to get up to your lifts, lol, crackyflipside is already there also as a real light 85 and a teammate of ours is getting close as a 69, definetly depressing and inspiring at the same time, haha
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i don't compete in weightlifting anymore...but i wanna play with my best lifts from 2008. that ok?
isaku900.....125kg.....100/140.....247.859
if not...
Total: 2270@308
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Originally Posted by isaku900
i don't compete in weightlifting anymore...but i wanna play with my best lifts from 2008. that ok?
isaku900.....125kg.....100/140.....247.859
if not... 
Wow, you weigh 2 of me...
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
Wow, you weigh 2 of me...
i is big boi.
Total: 2270@308
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Name_______Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_______Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
isaku900...............125kg..................100/140...........247.859
crackyflipside........80kg.....................80/100............220.398
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972
Olympic Weightlifting: Cuban Method
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=703396581
Snatch: 97kg
Clean and jerk: 120kg
Front squat 160kg
Back squat: 170kg
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Originally Posted by crackyflipside
Name_______Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_______Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
isaku900...............125kg..................100/140...........247.859
crackyflipside........80kg.....................80/100............220.398
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972
Log-jam in the 80/100 range! 
Thanks for re-ordering everyone by Sinclair
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I know you have a lot more people in here who compete. Where are they?
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I guess I'll add my petty lifts for the lulz
Name_______Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_______Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
isaku900...............125kg..................100/140...........247.859
crackyflipside........80kg.....................80/100............220.398
Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972
d34dlift...............61kg....................... 50/70............175.014
Bodybuilder; n. A weightlifter too weak to be a powerlifter.
Powerlifter; n. A weightlifter too fat to be a bodybuilder.
Olympic Lifters? Well we just f*ck everyone else up.
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mezzie
Originally Posted by d34dlift
d34dlift............... 61kg.......................50/70............175.014
Yay, someone else my size!!!
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damn, i'm the fattest m-fer who here doing weightlifting. 
maybe I should take a few months off powerlifting and train for a USAW meet... although i dunno if I can do a snatch anymore...I'd probably have to get my labrum repaired to allow that.
Total: 2270@308
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not a whole lot of competitors. If i took a video and had a majority of people ok the lift, can it count?
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mezzie
Originally Posted by cupcakekid
not a whole lot of competitors. If i took a video and had a majority of people ok the lift, can it count?
Well we only just started a couple days ago 
Video evidence not required, but feel free to post one here and we can judge if you're not certain.
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Originally Posted by isaku900
damn, i'm the fattest m-fer who here doing weightlifting.
maybe I should take a few months off powerlifting and train for a USAW meet... although i dunno if I can do a snatch anymore...I'd probably have to get my labrum repaired to allow that.
I just (finally) watched your NorCal meet vid. Looks like you've got decent enough flexibility based on your back squat to clean without any trouble. How bad does an overhead position feel? It'd be cool to see what sorts of numbers you can put up. I'm guessing in the neighborhood of 105/145 without too much trouble!
Also, I've trained with plenty of Olympic lifters bigger than you, including one who was almost exactly 3x my bodyweight at one point. He's since dropped 40lbs and I've gained over 20, so that no longer applies, but it was fun while it lasted!
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Name_________Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_____Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki............... 61.5kg...............81/100............281.277
CHS55.................... 84 kg ............. 105/130 ...........280.431
isaku900..................125kg...............100/140............247.859
crackyflipside............80kg.................80/100.............220.398
Mr Ben.....................93kg.................84/100............209.268
GoJu........................93kg................ 70/90..............181.972
d34dlift....................61kg................ 50/70..............175.014
Here's a version in lbs for those who no not of metric (rounded to the nearest pound so as not to complicate things):
Name_________Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_____Sinclair(age-adjusted)
Madaozeki.............. 136 lbs................179/220............281.277
CHS55................. ..185 lbs .............. 232/287 ...........280.431
isaku900.................276 lbs................220/309............247.859
crackyflipside..........176 lbs.................176/220............220.398
Mr Ben...................205 lbs.................185/220............209.268
GoJu......................205 lbs.................154/198...........181.972
d34dlift..................135 lbs................ 110/154............175.014
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
Yay, someone else my size!!!
There are not too many. How are things at the Hobbit village, btw?
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Originally Posted by madaozeki
I just (finally) watched your NorCal meet vid. Looks like you've got decent enough flexibility based on your back squat to clean without any trouble. How bad does an overhead position feel? It'd be cool to see what sorts of numbers you can put up. I'm guessing in the neighborhood of 105/145 without too much trouble!
Also, I've trained with plenty of Olympic lifters bigger than you, including one who was almost exactly 3x my bodyweight at one point. He's since dropped 40lbs and I've gained over 20, so that no longer applies, but it was fun while it lasted!
oh i can put a barbell over my head, i c&j'd 245lbs yesterday after my full workout just for fun.
my snatch technique just blows and i tore up my right labrum a while back so my shoulders don't want to be extended in that position anymore.
i can still do cleans pretty well though, if i started training them again seriously I could probably go for 150-160kg within a few months.
Total: 2270@308
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Originally Posted by isaku900
oh i can put a barbell over my head, i c&j'd 245lbs yesterday after my full workout just for fun.
my snatch technique just blows and i tore up my right labrum a while back so my shoulders don't want to be extended in that position anymore.
i can still do cleans pretty well though, if i started training them again seriously I could probably go for 150-160kg within a few months.
Hmmm well maybe rehabbing the shoulder or repairing the labrum take precedence over working with a coach on your snatch technique! Still, it'd be cool to see you at least working HEAVY cleans (without the jerk). Who knows... maybe they'd give you a change of pace enough to have a positive effect on your powerlifts? Stranger things have happened...
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Originally Posted by Arlecchino
There are not too many. How are things at the Hobbit village, btw?

I'm NOT a hobbit, thank you very much... I only live in Hobbiton because it's close to work so I save time on my commute... and because I just, well, fit in there... sigh...
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