Unsponsored, Independent Cognitive Nutrition's Phenylethylamine Log

sweetbecky · 12-27-2008, 01:37 PM

Received my order of PEA 500mg from BB.com today. Only took 7 days to arrive, even with Christmas.

Since I work in pharmacy, the following is important for me to log:

Lot # 8G018B
EXPIRATION AUG 2011
Phenylethylamine HCl 500mg 60 capsules
The bottle says, "Mental/Mood Neuromodulator D-Phenylalanine Derivative"

"Neurochemical Effects:
Neuromodulator of catecholamine activity - May enhance Focus and Mood

AMPA receptor stimulant -May support Cognition

Reduces the inhibitory effects of GABA-B receptors - May elevate mental alertness"

I just ate, so I'll wait until my stomach is empty to begin dosing. I will start with one capsule and document the effect, if any. I've read where some people are starting with 1.5-2gm, but I'm starting slow with plenty of time to ramp up.

An important note: I'm not taking this to get "high" or for a thrill.

The main reason I ordered this is for a slight mood and energy lifter. I am a few months into a new company, and the work is overwhelming in volume. I am on my feet 10-11 hours per day, frequently lift and carry heavy and/or cumbersome boxes, then slow down to compound IV medications for up to 4 hours without food or water, while garbed up (bonnet, mask, booties, gown and gloves), standing in one spot in an 80 degree room, working quickly while exerting a lot of mental focus.

When I get home from work around 8:30-9pm, I typically collapse on the sofa like a construction worker and veg out until I go to bed. When I wake up, my entire body is usually sore and aches, even if I didn't work out the day before.

My days off are frequently spent in recovery mode. I usually have to force myself to go to the gym due to lack of energy, but I know when I go, I feel better mentally.

Before I started with this company, I was running 3.7-5 miles twice per week, and lifting around 4 times per week. I always had energy for friends and running errands. My quality of life was a lot better overall.

I am looking for another job, but until then, I am looking for something to help me get through this period. I don't have a choice as far as working because I am entirely self sufficient. I am not depressed or sad, but I do need something to pick me up a bit. My food choices haven't been as consistent as in the past, and my body is showing the effects.

I'd like to feel a little more positive while at work, and have some energy on my days off to do the things I like to do, and make my life feel more balanced.

I'll update after my first dose.

CognitiveNutrition · 12-27-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbecky

Received my order of PEA 500mg from BB.com today. Only took 7 days to arrive, even with Christmas.

Since I work in pharmacy, the following is important for me to log:

Lot # 8G018B
EXPIRATION AUG 2011
Phenylethylamine HCl 500mg 60 capsules
The bottle says, "Mental/Mood Neuromodulator D-Phenylalanine Derivative"

"Neurochemical Effects:
Neuromodulator of catecholamine activity - May enhance Focus and Mood

AMPA receptor stimulant -May support Cognition

Reduces the inhibitory effects of GABA-B receptors - May elevate mental alertness"

I just ate, so I'll wait until my stomach is empty to begin dosing. I will start with one capsule and document the effect, if any. I've read where some people are starting with 1.5-2gm, but I'm starting slow with plenty of time to ramp up.

An important note: I'm not taking this to get "high" or for a thrill.

The main reason I ordered this is for a slight mood and energy lifter. I am a few months into a new company, and the work is overwhelming in volume. I am on my feet 10-11 hours per day, frequently lift and carry heavy and/or cumbersome boxes, then slow down to compound IV medications for up to 4 hours without food or water, while garbed up (bonnet, mask, booties, gown and gloves), standing in one spot in an 80 degree room, working quickly while exerting a lot of mental focus.

When I get home from work around 8:30-9pm, I typically collapse on the sofa like a construction worker and veg out until I go to bed. When I wake up, my entire body is usually sore and aches, even if I didn't work out the day before.

My days off are frequently spent in recovery mode. I usually have to force myself to go to the gym due to lack of energy, but I know when I go, I feel better mentally.

Before I started with this company, I was running 3.7-5 miles twice per week, and lifting around 4 times per week. I always had energy for friends and running errands. My quality of life was a lot better overall.

I am looking for another job, but until then, I am looking for something to help me get through this period. I don't have a choice as far as working because I am entirely self sufficient. I am not depressed or sad, but I do need something to pick me up a bit. My food choices haven't been as consistent as in the past, and my body is showing the effects.

I'd like to feel a little more positive while at work, and have some energy on my days off to do the things I like to do, and make my life feel more balanced.

I'll update after my first dose.

Glad to see you try one of our products.

Some suggestions!

1. Start with 1 pill with a meal to see how you response. If no response I would suggest taking it 3 hours after a meal or 30-60 mins after for more ideal results.
2. Here's an updated dosing protocol for PEA (this will be on future labels more or less). http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...postcount=1379

If you have any questions or comment please feel free to pm me to insure you get the best results out of this product.

sweetbecky · 12-28-2008, 07:00 AM

I took one 500mg capsule at 8:15 this morning, followed by a few handfuls of mixed nuts. At 9:00, no noticeable effect.

I will go out for a run in a bit and try more later this afternoon. I'd like to feel its effects and know what to expect before I go to work tomorrow.

sweetbecky · 12-28-2008, 02:49 PM

Took one 500mg capsule at 4:37 pm. Within 4 minutes I was laughing at nothing. I was actually in the Misc reading about the Snuggie blanket and I started laughing out loud... and I was like, ok wait, is this really funny? So I got up and started laughing again. Still feel pretty good. It feels exactly how I feel when I'm laughing with friends... relaxed, ready to laugh more..

I was going to take another one after 10 minutes but I think I'm good.

I'll bet this would be fun while watching a comedy or hanging out with friends.

sweetbecky · 12-28-2008, 03:42 PM

The feeling only lasted about 10 minutes. I don't feel any worse than before I took it, but I'm a little disappointed the feeling of well being didn't last longer. Any suggestions of how to extend it? I took the last dose on a fairly empty stomach. Maybe with coffee tomorrow morning?

CognitiveNutrition · 12-28-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbecky

The feeling only lasted about 10 minutes. I don't feel any worse than before I took it, but I'm a little disappointed the feeling of well being didn't last longer. Any suggestions of how to extend it? I took the last dose on a fairly empty stomach. Maybe with coffee tomorrow morning?

Well at 500 mg most people don't feel anything. I would increase the dose as suggested in my protocol before adding other compounds to it. This way we learn more about your biochemistry.

Also I would not eat anything for at least 15-30 mins after taking it if not 60 mins.

sweetbecky · 12-29-2008, 06:45 AM

Woke up hungry (and an hour later than I wanted to), but didn't eat breakfast right away like I usually do, so I can follow the dosing protocol. Took one capsule at 8:21 am, no effect. Took a second capsule at 8:31 and I'm not feeling any different at this point.

Will wait until 9:30 am or later to eat breakfast, then start my day. Working 10 am until 8 pm, but it shouldn't be a very strenuous day. Hope to have energy left over after work to hit the gym. Will update tonight.

Edit: No noticeable effect after one hour. Had a small breakfast - was much less hungry than when I first awoke, but since I never wait to eat in the morning, I'm not sure if I can attribute that to the PEA. Taking one capsule with me to work to try later in the afternoon.

sweetbecky · 12-30-2008, 05:27 AM

So I took a third capsule yesterday afternoon, around 3:30. No noticeable effect all day.

Today I will continue to follow the dosing protocol and take 1gm at once, and if no noticeable effect, an additional 500mg 10 minutes later. I've already eaten breakfast, so I'll do this later.

sweetbecky · 01-01-2009, 08:10 AM

Didn't take any for the last two days. Took two upon awakening today, then another about ten minutes later. Nada.

I'll try again later.

msauka · 01-01-2009, 09:39 AM

Subscribed, I want to see how you go with this one. I am IT consultant and during projects I am working a lot and have a lot of stressful situations. Would like to use something instead of antidepressants.

sweetbecky · 01-02-2009, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by msauka

Subscribed, I want to see how you go with this one. I am IT consultant and during projects I am working a lot and have a lot of stressful situations. Would like to use something instead of antidepressants.

Thanks. Looks like we're looking for a similar effect.

Ok, took 3 caps (1.5 gm). Waited 10 minutes and took another 500mg along with a Bronkaid, 200mg caffeine and a loratadine (generic Claritin) (felt a little runny nose).

My entire head is buzzing.. like a strong tingling. Definitely difficult to type. If I wasn't so anal about typos, I'd let it go, but I'm correcting a lot more typos than I ever would. It's not really a pleasant feeling. My jaw is also tingling.

sweetbecky · 01-02-2009, 07:18 AM

I got up and felt like stretching, and I also had a surge of energy, unlike I would EVER have in the morning. I also felt tightness in my lungs, but right before I took the second pill, I opened a box of Aryuvedic soap and it's a possibility I had a reaction to that. I had childhood asthma and an allergic reaction to mold brought on my last attack at 22. Haven't had an issue since. But something happened in my lungs, I just can't pinpoint at this time the cause.

So I felt energized, head and jaw tingling and an urge to move. I popped in a yoga tape and did that. I've had it out for a while, trying to motivate myself to do it, but this dosing definitely made me motivated.

Tomorrow I may try it again without the caffeine, Bronkaid, loratadine, Aryuvedic soap and see what happens.

So far I haven't seen benefits great enough to make me want to buy it again.

I did see an internet ad for something called Fastin, which is used for weight loss, and PEA seems to be an ingredient. I haven't noticed any side effects that would indicate a propensity towards weight loss.

Almost an hour after the dose, I am feeling 100% the same way I did before I took it.

CognitiveNutrition · 01-08-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbecky

Thanks. Looks like we're looking for a similar effect.

Ok, took 3 caps (1.5 gm). Waited 10 minutes and took another 500mg along with a Bronkaid, 200mg caffeine and a loratadine (generic Claritin) (felt a little runny nose).

My entire head is buzzing.. like a strong tingling. Definitely difficult to type. If I wasn't so anal about typos, I'd let it go, but I'm correcting a lot more typos than I ever would. It's not really a pleasant feeling. My jaw is also tingling.

I would not recommend combing it with otc drugs. You could easily have a heart attack if you're not careful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbecky

I got up and felt like stretching, and I also had a surge of energy, unlike I would EVER have in the morning. I also felt tightness in my lungs, but right before I took the second pill, I opened a box of Aryuvedic soap and it's a possibility I had a reaction to that. I had childhood asthma and an allergic reaction to mold brought on my last attack at 22. Haven't had an issue since. But something happened in my lungs, I just can't pinpoint at this time the cause.

So I felt energized, head and jaw tingling and an urge to move. I popped in a yoga tape and did that. I've had it out for a while, trying to motivate myself to do it, but this dosing definitely made me motivated.

Tomorrow I may try it again without the caffeine, Bronkaid, loratadine, Aryuvedic soap and see what happens.

So far I haven't seen benefits great enough to make me want to buy it again.

I did see an internet ad for something called Fastin, which is used for weight loss, and PEA seems to be an ingredient. I haven't noticed any side effects that would indicate a propensity towards weight loss.

Almost an hour after the dose, I am feeling 100% the same way I did before I took it.

If you have asthma PEA may make it worse and it should not be taken with anyone who has a medical condition. PEA is not intended for weight loss nor proven to be of any benefit.