Ok I think I'm losing it, do I have a legit reason to feel so frustrated?

[The Protagonist]

So I'm dating this girl. And I REALLY like her, like it's getting to the point where I need to start seeing other girls or I'm going to get oneitis (do they still use this term?)

anyways we had the following text convseration:

**just want to say she just got a boob job done and then she got sick, so I've been worried about her health

me - hey baby you ok? i'm totally thinking about what you look like now..you really shouldn't tempt me creative minds can be trouble
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her - sorry its taken me this long to get back to you. i've been so busy cause the holidays r crazy. how are you?
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* some time later *
me - hey babe i'm at a concert at webster hall in nyc, anyways I want to talk to you. on the phone. I'm gonna step outside, ok? No ifs or buts.
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her - I can't right now. I'm in bed with my 2 yr old neice is alseep next me. I'll call you tomorrow AM, ok? thanks for being sweet and i'm feelin so much better..


NEXT DAY:
me - hope you're smiling babe, if not just think of me! When's a good time to talk? And merry christmas eve cutie
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her - I'll def. try calling later baby, hope youre having a good break
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me - ha babe first it's a phone call and next thing you know we're flying to vegas, getting married, argueing about our third kids name and fighting over sheets. call me..-jz



So that was Christmas eve and I still haven't heard from her. I'm coming out of a relationship so I'm so used to girls getting back to me ASAP. I've been seeing this girl for a while though and I want to get her on the phone. We text entirely too much and I want to setup a meetup before I go back to school. I'm really frustrated because if someone gives me their word and says they're gonna call me at a certain time then they should?

I thought I'd post this here because I don't think I'm thinking correctly or logically right now. This is why I try to stay emotionally detached from girls. Any comments would be appreciated.

[Frank Drebin]

How long have you guys been dating?

And

ha babe first it's a phone call and next thing you know we're flying to vegas, getting married, argueing about our third kids name and fighting over sheets. call me

^^ WTF is that ****

[Reincarnation]

You sound desperate and needy, stop calling and texting her and let her initiate all interactions now. If she doesn't then move on or date other girls.

[cncman]

might be one of those girls that likes to make you wait to "not seem desperate" they dont know that actually pisses us off....always hated the whole wait til 3 days after to call thing too
yes you sound a bit clingy too

[E-Dub187]

Originally Posted by The Protagonist

So I'm dating this girl. And I REALLY like her, like it's getting to the point where I need to start seeing other girls or I'm going to get oneitis (do they still use this term?)

anyways we had the following text convseration:

**just want to say she just got a boob job done and then she got sick, so I've been worried about her health

me - hey baby you ok? i'm totally thinking about what you look like now..you really shouldn't tempt me creative minds can be trouble
-
her - sorry its taken me this long to get back to you. i've been so busy cause the holidays r crazy. how are you?
-
* some time later *
me - hey babe i'm at a concert at webster hall in nyc, anyways I want to talk to you. on the phone. I'm gonna step outside, ok? No ifs or buts.
-
her - I can't right now. I'm in bed with my 2 yr old neice is alseep next me. I'll call you tomorrow AM, ok? thanks for being sweet and i'm feelin so much better..


NEXT DAY:
me - hope you're smiling babe, if not just think of me! When's a good time to talk? And merry christmas eve cutie
-
her - I'll def. try calling later baby, hope youre having a good break
-
me - ha babe first it's a phone call and next thing you know we're flying to vegas, getting married, argueing about our third kids name and fighting over sheets. call me..-jz



So that was Christmas eve and I still haven't heard from her. I'm coming out of a relationship so I'm so used to girls getting back to me ASAP. I've been seeing this girl for a while though and I want to get her on the phone. We text entirely too much and I want to setup a meetup before I go back to school. I'm really frustrated because if someone gives me their word and says they're gonna call me at a certain time then they should?

I thought I'd post this here because I don't think I'm thinking correctly or logically right now. This is why I try to stay emotionally detached from girls. Any comments would be appreciated.

I think she might think that you are going too fast with relationship. You may have freaked her out with some of the things you said. If you really like her this much, don't let her know. ESPECIALLY if you are not getting the same vibe about your feelings with each other. I don't think texting her about such things helped. It should be done in person.

[rhino916]

You are showing to much interest. Distance yourself and she will start calling you. Also it might be she does not like talking on the phone? One of my ex's HATED talking on the phone and wanted to have conversations through text.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

You failed hard with that last text message. I could live 6 more lifetimes and try each time to fail and not fail as hard as that text message you sent. She may never speak to you again after that ****.

[liamcarter]

Originally Posted by Reincarnation

You sound desperate and needy, stop calling and texting her and let her initiate all interactions now. If she doesn't then move on or date other girls.

^^this is what i have learnt in my life too

[The Protagonist]

Haha that's the thing I'm normally alpha around girls and my friends as in I'm not a total ****ing pussy like I am right now.

We've been seeing each other since mid summer (june) but I haven't seen her since I've been in school.

ha babe first it's a phone call and next thing you know we're flying to vegas, getting married, argueing about our third kids name and fighting over sheets. call me

WTF is that ****? That is me kind of being a failure as a man. But she ****ing loves that ****, seriosly she eats it the **** up. I promise that I will not fail this hard again.

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my question: How long should I not contact her? As long as it takes for her to get back to me? I'm normally not this needy and I dunno why I'm acting this way. Usually I'm laid back but I think that the fact that she is both smart and pretty goodlooking has got to me and turned me beta. I'm so ****ing tempted to text her something right now but I will not. This **** sucks.

[irishjackmp]

Originally Posted by The Protagonist

Haha that's the thing I'm normally alpha around girls and my friends as in I'm not a total ****ing pussy like I am right now.

We've been seeing each other since mid summer (june) but I haven't seen her since I've been in school.



WTF is that ****? That is me kind of being a failure as a man. But she ****ing loves that ****, seriosly she eats it the **** up. I promise that I will not fail this hard again.

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my question: How long should I not contact her? As long as it takes for her to get back to me? I'm normally not this needy and I dunno why I'm acting this way. Usually I'm laid back but I think that the fact that she is both smart and pretty goodlooking has got to me and turned me beta. I'm so ****ing tempted to text her something right now but I will not. This **** sucks.

Alot of guys who are generally Alpha when it comes to women can point to one woman in their lives who they morph into a needy wussbag around... she sounds like yours.

OP... as for how long you should wait, I am going to be honest with you... you have made it VERY clear to her that you are interested in her alot. Is it possible that she just is busy and can't call you? maybe... but it does sound like she is withdrawing some. Initiating contact with her more (even with a break in between) will only make things worse. At this point the ball is in her court... wait for her to contact you... if you don't hear from her again you know she wanted to dump you and didn't have the class to break up properly.

Don't initaite contact again... if you haven't heard from her in a few days you have your answer and you should go start talking t eother girls.

[CelticBhoy]

Originally Posted by Reincarnation

You sound desperate and needy, stop calling and texting her and let her initiate all interactions now. If she doesn't then move on or date other girls.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You know how many times I talked to my Special Lady Friend yesterday? Once.

You know how many times we text each other? Probably twice each. I called her at 8 pm and no answer...didn't hear from her until 11 this morning.

She's also in Florida at the moment with family and relatives.

Am I freaked? Am I bothered?

Holy ****, NO!

Bro, it's CHRISTMAS and CHRISTMAS Eve. Let the girl be with family and friends (as I'm sure you were). Let them WANT to call you. What you're doing now is smothering her, bro. I use to do that and that's a recipe for disaster.

[The Protagonist]

you guys are right and I repped as many of you as I could. Feel free to neg the **** out of me cause I totally ****ing deserve it for being such a pussy.

I'm going to cut off all contact from her for a week. Here is the thing though: During the entire semester we've been having conversations about us going to a strip club together when I get home and her doing stuff with strippers and then going back to her place and us more or less ****ing each others brains out. I want to make this happen before I go back to school. I have been beta but before this pussy ass text message exchange I've been pretty alpha with her so there should be some attraction left. How can I use this to contact her again in a week?

If I contact her then and she STILL doesn't respond then **** it I'm done.

[CelticBhoy]

Originally Posted by The Protagonist

Haha that's the thing I'm normally alpha around girls and my friends as in I'm not a total ****ing pussy like I am right now.

The alpha-bull**** (not dissing you, just in-general on these forums) is so lame. While I hear what you're saying...believe me, people get nervous when they're trying to get with someone. That's part of the fun though...

Originally Posted by The Protagonist

We've been seeing each other since mid summer (june) but I haven't seen her since I've been in school.

Which has been how long? Since June until now?

Originally Posted by The Protagonist

WTF is that ****? That is me kind of being a failure as a man. But she ****ing loves that ****, seriosly she eats it the **** up. I promise that I will not fail this hard again.

Don't beat yourself over that ****, bro. If anything, you will learn from this particular error and will learn from it. Dude, you have NO idea how much trial and error goes into dating...

But in every relationship or "hook-up" or whatever you're in...usually you'll take something from it -- whether good or bad -- and LEARN, "Wow, I now know to not do that again."

Originally Posted by The Protagonist

my question: How long should I not contact her? As long as it takes for her to get back to me? I'm normally not this needy and I dunno why I'm acting this way. Usually I'm laid back but I think that the fact that she is both smart and pretty goodlooking has got to me and turned me beta. I'm so ****ing tempted to text her something right now but I will not. This **** sucks.

What are you currently doing? I would bet the house that you're doing NOTHING. THIS is why you want to text her.

Years ago, when I was dating this girl, I would go INSANE and text her a ton and freak out when she went out with her friends, etc. Want to know where I would be? Home. Yes, home. And because I'm home, bored, and it's night-time (I don't know why, but your mind always goes crazy at night), etc. and all I could do is think about her and all these crazy scenarios that got worse and worse which explained her delay as to not texting me back ASAP.

If there is one thing that I learned it is this: You can only control the aspects of YOUR life. By putting YOUR life in order, everything else will fall into place. With that being said, go to the gym, go out with your friends, etc.

If she doesn't call you after 4 days, call her. If she doesn't answer your phone call and responses via text? Disregard and move on.

[Troy_Trinity]

woooah op... you need to stop calling her babe and **** for a while...

lay back and let her come to you...

[blancmange]

thats like 1 inch away from babytalk :S

[dbluevette]

U are Being too needy. Let her go.

[Stewy2008]

bro you need to stop being so dam clingy. most normal girls hate when a man is too clingy. i think your relationship is going to end soon sorry. move on and find another girl and dont be so clingy.

[CEO Josh]

Chillax man. You've gone to far into femine like actions. Just pull back into manliness, give it time, and contact her like nothing happened.

[wimpking]

too gay, don't ask to talk to her, just fukkn call... once. don't bother leaving a message. then go about your life. just sayin'.