strong, but no muscle gain!

[esoes33]

ive been training for like four months now. i have tried many things to maximize my muscle gains, thats my goal. Though i have seen somewhat improvement, its not really that much. well the first month i gained like 16 ponds because i started eating like a freak but then, when i realized i was gaining to much fat, i lowered my caloric intake, since then my weight has been steady in like 147-150 pounds (im 5"6').

the thing is, i have increased strengh like crazy!! and i have more definition. But my muscles always seem the same no matter what! other super bigger than me guys lift mockingly the half of what im lifting and they are as if there about to die! wtf!?!? sometimes i even feel like my biceps shrink. it has only grown like an inch from when i started , and i think its due to creatine.

i have changed diet eating very clean. i just started eating some dirty to see if it was just that im not getting enough calories but then again, i dont want to keep gaining fat. i drink my protien shake, limit cardio, treid some suplements.

this is really getting to me . the other day i was shocked when i saw this skinny puny guy who looked like it was the first time he had ever been in a gym, dumbell benching 60lbs in each hand like it was nothing!! i mean his arms didint even look like they could support the half of that. and then he even INCREASED THE WEIGHT!!!

will i be stucked forever like that guy? help plizzz!!!!!!!!

[.Excalibur]

your not eating enough

[tetrasarin]

your not eating enough

This.

[MilkBender]

the thing is, i have increased strengh like crazy!! and i have more definition.

If your bodyfat stayed the same, doesn't more definition=more mass?

[MilkBender]

the other day i was shocked when i saw this skinny puny guy who looked like it was the first time he had ever been in a gym, dumbell benching 60lbs in each hand like it was nothing!! i mean his arms didint even look like they could support the half of that. and then he even INCREASED THE WEIGHT!!!

will i be stucked forever like that guy? help plizzz!!!!!!!!

also, lol'd at this

[esoes33]

your not eating enough

i just know its not my diet because i just gain fat if i eat more...

[PopOverride]

i just know its not my diet because i just gain fat if i eat more...

Then only eat a little bit more. OR carb cycle. Learn what works for YOU, that is what bodybuilding is about.

[esoes33]

If your bodyfat stayed the same, doesn't more definition=more mass?

maybe... so its just replacing fat with muscle? but damn its do slow..

[esoes33]

Then only eat a little bit more. OR carb cycle. Learn what works for YOU, that is what bodybuilding is about.

i never heard of that carb cycling. is that the same as keto diet? would it benefit me considering im naturally thin person?

[tetrasarin]

Just eat more.

[MilkBender]

maybe... so its just replacing fat with muscle? but damn its do slow..

I heard that your first year of gaining muscle isn't that noticeable (around 30lbs)

Dunno if it's true

[Champ3113]

eat only a bit over maintenance if you gain fat easily

[.Excalibur]

i just know its not my diet because i just gain fat if i eat more...

So your worried about being small and not weighing enough, and then a second later your worried about being fat?

And you gain weight by eating in a surplus of calories, no if and or but

[musclefreak69]

u got stronger on noob gains, if you dont eat enough the strength gains will not last

[Aver2010]

maybe... so its just replacing fat with muscle? but damn its do slow..

no you cant replace fat for muscle, and you have to eat big to get big BUT
you HAVE to give your muscles a REASON to grow...

[Sam401]

your not eating enough

Eat more and try to get 100-200 grams of protein a week. 100g of protein= 1pound of muscle. You will see results.

[Aver2010]

Eat more and try to get 100-200 grams of protein a week. 100g of protein= 1pound of muscle. You will see results.

lol who told you that lie

[buckeye185]

bout to put some science up in here:

when you first begin training, initial strength increases are due to neural adaptations. this period can be as short as 6 weeks or as long as 6 months, but the average is about 3 months. after the period of neural adaptation is done, strength increases from that point on come from actual muscle hypertrophy. so, what's happening with you is 100% normal, and you should be starting to put on some mass pretty soon.

(all taken from my college kinesiology coursework)

[IEatPowerRacks]

i just know its not my diet because i just gain fat if i eat more...

It's common sense. DON'T EACH TOO MUCH, BUT DON'T EAT TOO LITTLE>

DERRRRRRRRRRRR, TOO COMPLICATED.

[.Excalibur]

bout to put some science up in here:

when you first begin training, initial strength increases are due to neural adaptations. this period can be as short as 6 weeks or as long as 6 months, but the average is about 3 months. after the period of neural adaptation is done, strength increases from that point on come from actual muscle hypertrophy. so, what's happening with you is 100% normal, and you should be starting to put on some mass pretty soon.

(all taken from my college kinesiology coursework)

I wouldnt say ALL strength increases come from hypertrophy from the average of 3 months, your body will always have room for more nueral efficiency, even if infinitesmal( for world class strength athletes, like andy bolton)

[killyoselfnig32]

OP u might be slow twich try rep ranges fro 10-15 5 sets per exercise and then come back to me.

[buckeye185]

I wouldnt say ALL strength increases come from hypertrophy from the average of 3 months, your body will always have room for more nueral efficiency, even if infinitesmal( for world class strength athletes, like andy bolton)

that's true, i was just saying that a vast majority of neural adaptation occurs when you begin lifting consistently, and there is not a lot of hypertrophy at that time (in response to the OP's question)

[.Excalibur]

that's true, i was just saying that a vast majority of neural adaptation occurs when you begin lifting consistently, and there is not a lot of hypertrophy at that time (in response to the OP's question)

Thats true, i agree with that post, as most of the op's strength gain is most likely extreme nueral adaptions in relation to the exercises hes performing and better/different form(kinda the same thing).

What i mean by that is when you first started lifting, you may have been shaking on the bench press, and not moving the bar in the shortest/most efficient path, but after a little training, your body "gets used to" the exercise, and becomes more efficient( not shaking, moving the bar straight up, et cetera), allowing him to use more weight, not neccecarily more nueral pathways, as in the OP recruiting a greater % of muscle fibre during a maximal lift

[EricFapton]

u got stronger on noob gains, if you dont eat enough the strength gains will not last

thanks for info brah

now I know you can get only stronger but not getting big = not eating enough..

[esoes33]

bout to put some science up in here:

when you first begin training, initial strength increases are due to neural adaptations. this period can be as short as 6 weeks or as long as 6 months, but the average is about 3 months. after the period of neural adaptation is done, strength increases from that point on come from actual muscle hypertrophy. so, what's happening with you is 100% normal, and you should be starting to put on some mass pretty soon.

(all taken from my college kinesiology coursework)

wow thats really insightfull!! thnx i knew i wasnt doiin anything worng!! is their some research on it that i can read somewhere? what about the other guys who bigger so easily, i thought the first months was the easiest period to gain...

[.Excalibur]

wow thats really insightfull!! thnx i knew i wasnt doiin anything worng!! is their some research on it that i can read somewhere? what about the other guys who bigger so easily, i thought the first months was the easiest period to gain...

eat more

[esoes33]

OP u might be slow twich try rep ranges fro 10-15 5 sets per exercise and then come back to me.

what do you mean being slow twitch? actually i was thinking of changing my routune to this because my frein was having great results

[teezlr]

ive been training for like four months now. i have tried many things to maximize my muscle gains, thats my goal. Though i have seen somewhat improvement, its not really that much. well the first month i gained like 16 ponds because i started eating like a freak but then, when i realized i was gaining to much fat, i lowered my caloric intake, since then my weight has been steady in like 147-150 pounds (im 5"6').

the thing is, i have increased strengh like crazy!! and i have more definition. But my muscles always seem the same no matter what! other super bigger than me guys lift mockingly the half of what im lifting and they are as if there about to die! wtf!?!? sometimes i even feel like my biceps shrink. it has only grown like an inch from when i started , and i think its due to creatine.

i have changed diet eating very clean. i just started eating some dirty to see if it was just that im not getting enough calories but then again, i dont want to keep gaining fat. i drink my protien shake, limit cardio, treid some suplements.

this is really getting to me . the other day i was shocked when i saw this skinny puny guy who looked like it was the first time he had ever been in a gym, dumbell benching 60lbs in each hand like it was nothing!! i mean his arms didint even look like they could support the half of that. and then he even INCREASED THE WEIGHT!!!

will i be stucked forever like that guy? help plizzz!!!!!!!!

Be consistent with your workouts and nutrition, keep working at getting stronger each training session, you will see changes! It doesn't happen over night, focus on getting your strength through the roof and you will get big. I have never seen anyone who can bench press 400 pounds than doesn't have thick arms and chest.