Im a big lie, Take a look inside this thread i need to re-do everything

[xaaronthomasx]

Ok what i meant when i said "Im a big lie" in the title is. My size out weighs my strength like crazy.. I have been doing typical bodybuilding workouts for a beach body

Its so mentally stressfull when im at school and kids after summer are like damn AARON!!!! how much u benching? 300? Im like almost! i bench 285!

Really i bench 185 at a 153 (5'6 1/2) bw lol

God i dont get it... How can i be big as i am and be so weak? Now dont get me wrong i have good stamina But it doesnt carry over into my wrestling or nothing really...

Its time to stop being a illusion and a lie of strength Im ready to live up to my size.

I dont care about isolation training i dont care about perfect symmetry i dont care about seperation or anything now... ALL I WANT NOW IS PURE STRENGTH!

I wanna be strong all over tho. Like

I want to be able to throw it up on the bench/squat/power clean/deadlift/shoulder press/ barbell curl/ barbell row/weighted pull ups. Id like to dominate those with god liek strength for my bw

I wanna be pound for pound a monster and start to have a big strength advantage over my opponents


SO any programs you guys can throw out there or what ever advice Im a complete newb to strength training. So Please help me out guys..

Oh ya i love olympic lifting so please include the clean and press or clean lol its my favorite. Unless you advise its not usefull at first

Im all ears..

(shuld i do ripptoes ss right now???)

[isaku900]

....you're big?

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by isaku900

....you're big?

Yea ud just have to see me in person... Im not fkin huge! But im buff

[tatortotajigalo]

Originally Posted by xaaronthomasx

Yea ud just have to see me in person... Im not fkin huge! But im buff

No you aren't.

[isaku900]

Originally Posted by xaaronthomasx

Yea ud just have to see me in person... Im not fkin huge! But im buff

u might weigh like 10lbs more than my left leg.

you're absolutely the opposite of big.

[kodiak5]

Originally Posted by xaaronthomasx

God i dont get it... How can i be big as i am and be so weak?

I really wonder what your definition of "big" is...

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by isaku900

u might weigh like 10lbs more than my left leg.

you're absolutely the opposite of big.

Ok im not big, I dont wanna argue. I just want a program to help me with my goals.

[mesayseo]

lol a program that will magically make you bigger!!!!

i know this much to get bigger you got to eat more.
and i mean alot more.

[isaku900]

Originally Posted by xaaronthomasx

Ok im not big, I dont wanna argue. I just want a program to help me with my goals.

you're a novice...you guessed right in your first post.

Starting Strength.

run as is, do not modify, if you modify I will use you as a rack pull bar.

[sickonstorm]

Originally Posted by mesayseo

lol a program that will magically make you bigger!!!!

i know this much to get bigger you got to eat more.
and i mean alot more.

i think he wants to gain stregth to match his huge size, not get any bigger. id agree with isaku and run ss/.

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by mesayseo

lol a program that will magically make you bigger!!!!

i know this much to get bigger you got to eat more.
and i mean alot more.

I never said a program to magically make me bigger douche bag.


I said a program that works for my goals Being strength not size Just strength

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by isaku900

you're a novice...you guessed right in your first post.

Starting Strength.

run as is, do not modify, if you modify I will use you as a rack pull bar.

Sounds good, thats exactly what i will do. cus i dont wanna be a rack pull bar! what ever that is haha.

[mesayseo]

Originally Posted by xaaronthomasx

I never said a program to magically make me bigger douche bag.


I said a program that works for my goals Being strength not size Just strength

ok then i guess i came off as an ass ok. but either way you said you wanted pure strength the fastest way to get stronger is to gain weight period i dont care what anyone says its fact. lifting heavy and eating big thats what its about.

[sickonstorm]

PURE stregth would be maintaining bodyweight and gaining stregth, but gaining the most stregth would be gaining weight /

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by mesayseo

ok then i guess i came off as an ass ok. but either way you said you wanted pure strength the fastest way to get stronger is to gain weight period i dont care what anyone says its fact. lifting heavy and eating big thats what its about.

alright thats better haha, ill take that as advice!

[sickonstorm]

Originally Posted by xaaronthomasx

alright thats better haha, ill take that as advice!

if you gain weight you will be going against your gaol of being stronger than you look. if youre weaker than you appear now, imagine how weak youll be if you gain size faster than you gain strength.

[mesayseo]

you know i was seriously under the impression that pure strength was sheer weight. not taking into consideration bodyweight. j/s thats what i thought.

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by sickonstorm

PURE stregth would be maintaining bodyweight and gaining stregth, but gaining the most stregth would be gaining weight /

Ya im going more for the pound for pound strength Id rather not throw on a bunch of body fat to go up faster.. but hey Im not the expert u guys are..

I wrestle to, and i plan on walking on to a college team next season. SO id like to only bulk up to 165 or 170 at the most im only 150 9-11% body fat right now so i got a ways to go before i get 20 pounds bigger haha so im gonna start eating more and eating quality food at that.

[sickonstorm]

at 5'6 and 170 you can get pretty damn strong as 170 isnt small at all for being so short.

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by mesayseo

you know i was seriously under the impression that pure strength was sheer weight. not taking into consideration bodyweight. j/s thats what i thought.

Your both right, i shuld have made that more clear my bad

I wuld like to Maintain around my body weight (150) GOing up to 165 at the most.. while im bulking gaining strength.

SO ya pound for pound strength (get stronger while remaining relevantly the same size)

[sickonstorm]

whats worked for me is easting like a 10 year old girl and lifting like a 30 year old man. keep the weights at around 75 and above and do around the 3 rep range. incorporate squats bench and dl as the core of your routine. also eat at or below or slightly above your maintenacne level and you should be fine. you will stall eventually like me. but you shouldnt stall as much as me cause 170 is a fine weight at 56', while at 6'2 it is not.

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by sickonstorm

whats worked for me is easting like a 10 year old girl and lifting like a 30 year old man. keep the weights at around 75 and above and do around the 3 rep range. incorporate squats bench and dl as the core of your routine. also eat at or below or slightly above your maintenacne level and you should be fine. you will stall eventually like me. but you shouldnt stall as much as me cause 170 is a fine weight at 56', while at 6'2 it is not.

thanks man!

Im gonna do the ripptoe program first

have people made sum good strength gains from it?

[sickonstorm]

yea, but most people who use it are noobs anyway so they make newb gains, but its the best program to use igf your new to stregth training.

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by sickonstorm

yea, but most people who use it are noobs anyway so they make newb gains, but its the best program to use igf your new to stregth training.

Oh ok.. well if theres something more advanced i shuld do well ill do it!

[sickonstorm]

Originally Posted by xaaronthomasx

Oh ok.. well if theres something more advanced i shuld do well ill do it!

do SS then move onto bill starrs mad cows 5x5. and like i said eat at maintenance or a lil above if you dont want to get big.

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by sickonstorm

do SS then move onto bill starrs mad cows 5x5. and like i said eat at maintenance or a lil above if you dont want to get big.

Ill do that man! and ill create a log or something to chart my progress somewere on the forums WHen i start it!

And you guys can go there and give me advice and stuff

Alright and the eating thing ill eat at maitnence or a lil above, ramping up the protein intake quite a bit, also i might start on a supplement.. ive never took one. So i dunno if they really help that great.. But i was thinking n.o. explode for some energy or sumthin haha, I just rly wanna try sumthin

[sickonstorm]

if you take a supp id suggest beta alanine. ill link you to a cheap one.

NOW- http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/betaalanine.html
SD- http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sd/betaalanine.html

[xaaronthomasx]

Originally Posted by sickonstorm

if you take a supp id suggest beta alanine. ill link you to a cheap one.

NOW- http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/betaalanine.html
SD- http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sd/betaalanine.html

thanks man! ill look into it! has it helped u out?

Oh and merry christmas!!!!!! its the 25th now woo

[sickonstorm]

ha thanks merry xmas to you too. i dont use supps, but if i were to, id use beta alanine.

[LT1Squirrel]

Instead of BA i'd use just regular creatine mono, which will help you keep water which should help weight gain and hold it.. other than that, just lift, as long as you eat above maintnence you should see an increase