VERY quick question on X-factor/Max-out

[GottaGetBigger]

Well im on day 17 of my max-out cycle, got a miserable headache i tried to troop it out but couldnt lol, took 1 tylanol. I understand that NSAID's will hurt my gains but is htis going to ruin my muscle growth for the day or be like starting my cycle at day 1?

[haiz69]

Don't stress over 1 tylenol.

[dogonfire]

Originally Posted by GottaGetBigger

Well im on day 17 of my max-out cycle, got a miserable headache i tried to troop it out but couldnt lol, took 1 tylanol. I understand that NSAID's will hurt my gains but is htis going to ruin my muscle growth for the day or be like starting my cycle at day 1?

The effects of X-Factor? can be hindered by the consumption of certain drugs or supplements. Minimize the intake of pain medications containing acetaminophen, ibuprofen, or aspirin, NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs)

You will basically make no gains while on Max-Out. This is because NSAIDs block the COX-2 pathway that arachidonic acid works through. You might see something out of the icariin and 25R spirostan, but overall you'll just be throwing your money away.

Edit: Did you mean continuous use of NSAIDs or just for one day? One day probably won't affect much.

[GottaGetBigger]

IT was just one day, one tylanol. Im stressing out that i ruined my cycle. Pretty much my question is it like my cycle is beginning from day 1 again, or will it just hinder my gains for the day.

[Blast_]

Take the tylenol.

[dogonfire]

Originally Posted by GottaGetBigger

IT was just one day, one tylanol. Im stressing out that i ruined my cycle. Pretty much my question is it like my cycle is beginning from day 1 again, or will it just hinder my gains for the day.

Nah it might slow down progress for a day or 2, but you'll live. Try eating something with potassium, like a banana, when you get a headache before you go for the Tylenol, it should help.

[GottaGetBigger]

Originally Posted by dogonfire

Nah it might slow down progress for a day or 2, but you'll live. Try eating something with potassium, like a banana, when you get a headache before you go for the Tylenol, it should help.

ok i can live with 2 days of lost progress but if i had to start fresh i would flip out. I wasl ooking for remedies without nsaids couldnt find any ill def try a banana next time thanks.

[bigla2004]

Originally Posted by Blast_

Take the tylenol.

Agreed. Its also just one day. In the scheme of life your health is more important than how your body looks. Either way, you will be fine and your cycle is far from ruined.

[GottaGetBigger]

thanks alot guys, I feel alot better now lol.
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[VaughnTrue]

if youre in pain, take the pain reliver. use them...dont abuse them, and your gains will not be hindered whatsoever.



hows your cycle going OP? anything to report?

[GottaGetBigger]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

if youre in pain, take the pain reliver. use them...dont abuse them, and your gains will not be hindered whatsoever.



hows your cycle going OP? anything to report?

Well im only on day 17 so the AA probably hasnt fully kicked in but the 25R Spiritol has deff given me some strength gains. I was most worried that taking the nsaid would pretty much reset my cycle to day 1 but now seems like it wont. Hopefully by day 20-25 the AA will kick in =] So far I deffinitly am liking the maxout

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by GottaGetBigger

Well im only on day 17 so the AA probably hasnt fully kicked in but the 25R Spiritol has deff given me some strength gains. I was most worried that taking the nsaid would pretty much reset my cycle to day 1 but now seems like it wont. Hopefully by day 20-25 the AA will kick in =] So far I deffinitly am liking the maxout

very nice...keep us updated! i notice significant strength increases in the 2nd week, and started gaining weight well at the 20 day mark.

[Death Head]

is it best to take these with or without food?
Do u have to take max out everyday or just on workout days would be fine or take x-factor on off days.

[Death Head]

bump

[Jeph]

bump

[bigla2004]

Originally Posted by Death Head

is it best to take these with or without food?
Do u have to take max out everyday or just on workout days would be fine or take x-factor on off days.

Ill answer this when you go http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113150531 and explain

Originally Posted by Death Head

you guys are way too young to be taking test boosters

[Death Head]

Originally Posted by bigla2004

Ill answer this when you go http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113150531 and explain

at that age whats the point. u can easily get gains if you try.

[bigla2004]

Originally Posted by Death Head

at that age whats the point. u can easily get gains if you try.

I explained in there. There is a difference between free test and overall test. THe majority of the test boosters promoted in there were divinal based. Divanil binds to shbg and helps create more free test. That would be a good thing in any lifter. No one said they would work miracles and you could throw your diet and training out the window. But at "that age" where you just "easily get gains" I notice better gains while on a natty t-booster than off.

[Death Head]

Originally Posted by bigla2004

I explained in there. There is a difference between free test and overall test. THe majority of the test boosters promoted in there were divinal based. Divanil binds to shbg and helps create more free test. That would be a good thing in any lifter. No one said they would work miracles and you could throw your diet and training out the window. But at "that age" where you just "easily get gains" I notice better gains while on a natty t-booster than off.

so then whats next cause you've already taken every natural supp.

[bigla2004]

Originally Posted by Death Head

so then whats next cause you've already taken every natural supp.

Ill be running differentiations of natural supps for the next couple years. Then I'll see where I'm at. It seems like you put too much stock in supps. They aid in your diet and training. I'm growing right now because I'm adding weights or reps everytime I train and in a calorie surplus. The supplements are just the icing on the cake.

[Death Head]

Originally Posted by bigla2004

Ill be running differentiations of natural supps for the next couple years. Then I'll see where I'm at. It seems like you put too much stock in supps. They aid in your diet and training. I'm growing right now because I'm adding weights or reps everytime I train and in a calorie surplus. The supplements are just the icing on the cake.

actually thats exactly what im saying. no need for most supps at that age because you will get crazy results if doing things right. at 19 i only took creatine for my first time and got awesome results without even being strict with diet and exercise. someone experimenting so soon will be probably end up taking roids at a early age.

[bigla2004]

Originally Posted by Death Head

actually thats exactly what im saying. no need for most supps at that age because you will get crazy results if doing things right. at 19 i only took creatine for my first time and got awesome results without even being strict with diet and exercise. someone experimenting so soon will be probably end up taking roids at a early age.

No offense, but I'm about 207 or 208 and leaner than you.. and I started lifting at a measly 160 pounds. I guess awesome results is subjective. I'm still way far from the physique I want to end up with. I have no intention on trying roids. I had jack **** for results with poor diet and exercise. There are benefits to certain t-boosters between 18-21.

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by bigla2004

No offense, but I'm about 207 or 208 and leaner than you.. and I started lifting at a measly 160 pounds. I guess awesome results is subjective. I'm still way far from the physique I want to end up with. I have no intention on trying roids. I had jack **** for results with poor diet and exercise. There are benefits to certain t-boosters between 18-21.

alec is shipping your max out bottle today.

[bigla2004]

Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

alec is shipping your max out bottle today.

sexy thanks a lot. Hope its here by saturday, but if not I'll just have my parents sent it. I just took a dose and am eating now actually .

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by bigla2004

sexy thanks a lot. Hope its here by saturday, but if not I'll just have my parents sent it. I just took a dose and am eating now actually .

yeaaaaa budddayyyy

[~Hades~]

Does anyone know if ArA products agrivate acid reflux/gerd? I've tried to find studies but there arent any that are specific.

[Death Head]

Originally Posted by bigla2004

No offense, but I'm about 207 or 208 and leaner than you.. and I started lifting at a measly 160 pounds. I guess awesome results is subjective. I'm still way far from the physique I want to end up with. I have no intention on trying roids. I had jack **** for results with poor diet and exercise. There are benefits to certain t-boosters between 18-21.

btw i havent continously lifted since then at all. i atleast took off a few years after 19 and i didnt get too serious until about 2 years ago. but in the last year i have put on 70lbs from what i was at before from losing so much weight. and only in the last couple years have i gotten into supplements and even at my age still have not used at test booster and am fine.

[Death Head]

Originally Posted by Death Head

is it best to take these with or without food?
Do u have to take max out everyday or just on workout days would be fine or take x-factor on off days.

i-force reps plz answer the questions?

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by Death Head

i-force reps plz answer the questions?

take it with meals. it must be taken every day.

[Death Head]

so besides AA the icaarin and 25r have to be taken everyday