ALCOHOLICS: RECOVERY & FITNESS (Serious Only Please)

[cowboybiker]

When you isolate, your left alone with the last person you got loaded with.

[dogetta]

http://meetings.intherooms.com/

[Meatpants]

When you isolate, your left alone with the last person you got loaded with.

My sponsor to me my mind was like a bad neighborhood. I shouldn't go there alone.

[chodan9]

http://meetings.intherooms.com/

cool site

just signed up

[chodan9]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

[pharmamarketer]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

Awesome. BIG congrats

[Twineagles]

My sponsor to me my mind was like a bad neighborhood. I shouldn't go there alone.

I love that and will have to keep that in my back pocket.

[Twineagles]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

Congratulations on 22 years. That IS a long time.

[mutt7707]

Well I fell off again, why do I do that? I KNOW it is not what I need, but I drink anyway. I ask God for help but nothing comes my way. I got to meetings, yet get nothing out of it. I am in a treatment program and yet I still drink. Is it because I have not hit rock bottom? If that is true what is bottom for me? I lost my wife, I see my kids only every two weeks what is it that will stop me from drinking?

[cowboybiker]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

Happy Birthday, That is a big deal.

Birthday reps since I cant give you a chip.

[Forge3]

I like how there are guys here with so much clean time. This is a blessing for me when I struggle because so much wisdom in here. I just need to keep myself in check.

[jj341]

I am 25 years sober and my advice to you today is what they tell you in the meetings. Don't drink,go to meetings and ask for help. Sometimes we try to over analize things. Keep it simple. Take out the Big Book and read Chapter 5, "How it Works" Do that today. Good luck.

[cowboybiker]

Well I fell off again, why do I do that? I KNOW it is not what I need, but I drink anyway. I ask God for help but nothing comes my way. I got to meetings, yet get nothing out of it. I am in a treatment program and yet I still drink. Is it because I have not hit rock bottom? If that is true what is bottom for me? I lost my wife, I see my kids only every two weeks what is it that will stop me from drinking?

Funny thing about bottoms. I found one and then found another and another and so on. Ozzy said it best "my bottom has a trap door"
I Used to go to meetings loaded to the gills, And an oldtimer told me that I was wasting good using time. Well that made me mad. So I would still go to meetings on a resentment and sit up front were he could see me and I made sure I wasnt loaded when I went.
I got sober on a resentment. Now of course there is so much more to my story. I lost, or should I say, I threw away so much in my life, because of my disease. And then alot of jail time. Drug, weapons and manufacturing charges, over and over again. And the insanity continued. I believe that the 1st step is the hardest, No one wants to admit that they are powerless and there life is unmanagable but thats where we have to start. Once you can do that then your on your way. And realize that it is a journey that you are on. Its all easy, just somethings are easier that others. Find a higher power. If you dont have one you can borrow mine if youd like. Tonite when you go to bed. Kick your shoes underneath your bed and when you wake up and your on your knees looking for them, give thanks to him that allowed you another day.
I realized one day that if anyone else had done to me what I've done to myself, I would kill him. I am my own worst enemy.
Am I making any sense ?
I can only hope that this helps.
On lifes journey remember that a windshield is bigger than a rearview mirror.
Cause where your going is more important than where you've been.
My names Steve and we dont shoot our wounded here.
Welcome. And keep coming back. Go to meetings, dont use in between meetings, get a sponsor, do the steps and become of service.

[billrich210]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

Happy Birthday Brother!

[billrich210]

Well said ,Sir.

[bjc12]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

congrats! you are an inspiration

Well I fell off again, why do I do that? I KNOW it is not what I need, but I drink anyway. I ask God for help but nothing comes my way. I got to meetings, yet get nothing out of it. I am in a treatment program and yet I still drink. Is it because I have not hit rock bottom? If that is true what is bottom for me? I lost my wife, I see my kids only every two weeks what is it that will stop me from drinking?

I don't think it has much to do with not hitting a bottom. When i look back on when i couldn't stop and didn't know why it was that i didn't completely surrendered. i still held out hope that some how i could still use. i knew i was an addict but didn't surrender to the fact that i cant successfully use any substance. my life goes to **** whenever i touch anything. today i know that and it not such a temptation to through my life away. another thing was that i never gave myself time. i always heard don't leave before the miracle happens but thought this was just some one liner with out much meaning. today i understand what they meant. instead of running at the first instant of discomfort i stayed. eventually unbeknownst to myself eventually the desire and obsession to use was lifted.

[madsat]

i went out with 9 friends and refused a drink. We went out to a watering hole and I was initially afraid of what others would think if i refused to drink. I jus told em that i wasnt going to drink, thats it - i felt really peaceful all thru. A few commented and reminded me of how prolific i was! Strangely i had no urge. One thing i realized was that i always had this fear of refusing a drink(what wud others think)... sort of a peer pressure/acceptance hangover as a kid(i will look like a wimp if i dont smoke/drink as much/... like my peers). It doesnt need to be that way, actually...

[Twineagles]

Well I fell off again, why do I do that? I KNOW it is not what I need, but I drink anyway. I ask God for help but nothing comes my way. I got to meetings, yet get nothing out of it. I am in a treatment program and yet I still drink. Is it because I have not hit rock bottom? If that is true what is bottom for me? I lost my wife, I see my kids only every two weeks what is it that will stop me from drinking?

Don't give up guy. All of us have stumbled and failing is only if you don't get up and try again. What helped me was when I stumbled, to sit down and look at the fact pattern that led me to stumble: Did I stay in contact with PEOPLE who were using but that I considered my friends. Did I go to PLACES that I should not have gone that were where I went when I was using. Did I have THINGS that would remind me of my using days, no matter what those things were. Was I Hungry, Angry, Lonely or Tired? These were usually sufficient for me to figure out what made me stumbe. Keep trying.

[Twineagles]

I am 25 years sober and my advice to you today is what they tell you in the meetings. Don't drink,go to meetings and ask for help. Sometimes we try to over analize things. Keep it simple. Take out the Big Book and read Chapter 5, "How it Works" Do that today. Good luck.

Congrats on 25 years sober. )

[mutt7707]

Thanks for the support everyone. I am keeping on with my plan to go to meetings and find a sponser.

[pharmamarketer]

Thanks for the support everyone. I am keeping on with my plan to go to meetings and find a sponser.

Good for you. You will start feeling better about things with a plan that you can hold yourself accountable to keep. It helped me out a lot

[chodan9]

Thanks for the support everyone. I am keeping on with my plan to go to meetings and find a sponser.

good deal
it didn't stick for me the first time either.
it took me several months before I started my current stretch of sobriety

[Meatpants]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

Congrats brother. That is awesome.

[Meatpants]

Thanks for the support everyone. I am keeping on with my plan to go to meetings and find a sponser.

Keep trying. Remember to do things differently this time. What you were doing last time, didn't work, or wasn't enough. I was very fortunate, and turnd things around without having to lose everything. It would scare me to think about where my bottom could be, if I was in your situation. There is the saying, it can't get any worse. Well from what I have seen, it most certainly can get worse, and often does.

Get honest, get involved, get clean.

Good luck.

[Forge3]

i went out with 9 friends and refused a drink. We went out to a watering hole and I was initially afraid of what others would think if i refused to drink. I jus told em that i wasnt going to drink, thats it - i felt really peaceful all thru. A few commented and reminded me of how prolific i was! Strangely i had no urge. One thing i realized was that i always had this fear of refusing a drink(what wud others think)... sort of a peer pressure/acceptance hangover as a kid(i will look like a wimp if i dont smoke/drink as much/... like my peers). It doesnt need to be that way, actually...

That is a good insight for you.

[GreenWave1]

Today I have been clean and sober by Gods grace for 22 years.

Congrats man! You continue to inspire.

[GreenWave1]

Thanks for the support everyone. I am keeping on with my plan to go to meetings and find a sponser.

Good on you mutt. Stick to the plan.

[GreenWave1]

i went out with 9 friends and refused a drink. We went out to a watering hole and I was initially afraid of what others would think if i refused to drink. I jus told em that i wasnt going to drink, thats it - i felt really peaceful all thru. A few commented and reminded me of how prolific i was! Strangely i had no urge. One thing i realized was that i always had this fear of refusing a drink(what wud others think)... sort of a peer pressure/acceptance hangover as a kid(i will look like a wimp if i dont smoke/drink as much/... like my peers). It doesnt need to be that way, actually...

It's great that it worked out this time. You found that you could have a good time without booze and you weren't given a hard time fro not drinking. That is fantastic.

This time.

Be careful. Next time you may not feel as strong. Make sure that if you choose to go out with friends who drink, that you are in a place where you will say 'no thanks'.

Stay strong!

[bjc12]

It's great that it worked out this time. You found that you could have a good time without booze and you weren't given a hard time fro not drinking. That is fantastic.

This time.

Be careful. Next time you may not feel as strong. Make sure that if you choose to go out with friends who drink, that you are in a place where you will say 'no thanks'.

Stay strong!

agreed

i went out with 9 friends and refused a drink. We went out to a watering hole and I was initially afraid of what others would think if i refused to drink. I jus told em that i wasnt going to drink, thats it - i felt really peaceful all thru. A few commented and reminded me of how prolific i was! Strangely i had no urge. One thing i realized was that i always had this fear of refusing a drink(what wud others think)... sort of a peer pressure/acceptance hangover as a kid(i will look like a wimp if i dont smoke/drink as much/... like my peers). It doesnt need to be that way, actually...

i give you a pat on the back for not drinking and gaining some insight but not real supportive of making this a regular occurrence.

[madsat]

It's great that it worked out this time. You found that you could have a good time without booze and you weren't given a hard time fro not drinking. That is fantastic.

This time.

Be careful. Next time you may not feel as strong. Make sure that if you choose to go out with friends who drink, that you are in a place where you will say 'no thanks'.

Stay strong!

Thanks GreenWave1.