So muscle means nothing in a fight apperently..

[coheed22]

My "know it all friend" and I were having an argument about how muscles does mean anything ina fight I agree technique has something to do with it but if this person has 100 pounds on you and x5 more muscle all he needs is one punch to your face and your out...

What hes saying is this guy


Could beat up this guy


just because he has a black belt... bull.. technique means something but theres limits ffs. What do you think? Hopefully i can show him this thread to shut him the hell up with him body builders are weak bull ****.

[joshisfresh]

ronnie would murk his asss

[jdoisjohnny]

just find a decent sized linemen lets say 250lbs or so and have him fight the guy... bet you the linemen spears him and sits on him while beating the **** out of him

[knicks517]

Size doesn't matter, but obviously there's a point where someone is SO much bigger that they can't possibly lose ..but I've seen plenty of skinny or short and skinny guys beat up bigger kids..

[squat4speed]

ronnie would bear hug that guy and crush him into 500 different pieces

[Jaxxed_Fibraz_]

Agreed, i dont care if its by alot or a little, size is gonna determine the outcome of alot of fights.

[iRun]

Thats only true if the two people are about the same size/strength. Whoever has the better technique would win.

wrong.

size matters, but not all the time. even though I say this I still have respect issues with manlets

it's win win, lose win, lose lose situation =D

imo ronnie could eat those hits

[swearujacked]

There's a point where size and strength outweighs any advantage in skill your opponent has. For example, I doubt any human could beat up a bear... A bear is just too strong and powerful.

[RandallH19891]

There's a point where size and strength outweighs any advantage in skill your opponent has. For example, I doubt any human could beat up a bear... A bear is just too strong and powerful.

Indeed, sir, but what about out hotdog eating a bear? Let's get back to what counts, here.

[BoxingPredator]

I'll take speed/explosion/ strength over muscle size any day in a fight. Muscles don't win fights, in fact they due hurt b/c the bigger the muscles the more oxygen your body needs.

[billy_dean]

size matters but technique has alot to do with it, guarunteed floyyd mayweather who ways 150 pounds could beat the average 200lb male in a fist fight

[Jeep_Driver]

If size doesn't matter in fights, then why do they have weight classes in boxing and mma? tell him that.

[gta129]

The big guy could body slam him. lol

[billy_dean]

There's a point where size and strength outweighs any advantage in skill your opponent has. For example, I doubt any human could beat up a bear... A bear is just too strong and powerful.

bears weigh 3 times the average person and they have claws and teeth of course a human is gonna lose thats a terrible comparison...

[Pull-Up]

It helps when you are fighting normal guy who doesn't train anything. But good fighter has bigger chances than slow 120kg guy.

[Wevans2303]

It does to a degree.

Some tosser was trying to hit me, but because of my superior strength (to his) I was just stopping him from hitting me with ease and then just got him in an arm lock took him to ground and then he pretty much gave up.

Same age, same weight, but I have more muscle compared to fat.

[PRMachine]

If size doesn't matter in fights, then why do they have weight classes in boxing and mma? tell him that.

Exactly this.

[rockguitarist89]

bears weigh 3 times the average person and they have claws and teeth of course a human is gonna lose thats a terrible comparison...

QFT.

[ElvisC]

sorry but there has to be a balance between strength and technique.

example do you think that little guy is gonna get up if ronnie is flat on him (side or top mount)

Also muscle is also used as a defense to protect against punches and such.

[PureSantana]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/222181...llie_vs_juice/

size dosent always matter.

[MXRacer323]

I could kick everyone's ass in this thread.

At once.

[Neopragmatist]

[RunNGun]

ronnie would just pick that guy up and eat him

[BoxingPredator]

GSP would knock Coleman out cold. And he weighs 170.

[PRMachine]

sorry but there has to be a balance between strength and technique.

example do you think that little guy is gonna get up if ronnie is flat on him (side or top mount)

Also muscle is also used as a defense to protect against punches and such.

He doesn't have to get up, could get him in some holds while he's on bottom, if ronnie doesn't destroy his face first

Edit: On second thought, i doubt that kid could put any holds on ronnie, even the most akward positions.

[PureSantana]

You guys do know that wolverines ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine#Name) Have been known to fend of a bear from its kill, and can kill moose. One of the main reasons it can do this is because its so dam agressive. Your attitude is 50% of the fight. The rest is skill/size/power

[asertus]

any famous professional boxer ( heavyweight or super-heavy) will beat the **** out from ronnie. They are flexible, explosively deadly and strong....

[billy_dean]

watch this and tell me skill dont matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOx9vRVVRQI

bob sapp has over 100lbs of pure muscle on cro cop

[TurboKC]

I've never seen a Joe Calzaghe fight where he didnt look like the underdog. I mean seriously, the guy hasnt lost a single one of his 46 fights and in every one the guy he fights looks like the sure winner: bigger, stronger, more toned, more defenition, less bodyfat. Yet they all lose.

Admitedly this is boxing and there are weight divisions, but still hes competed in super middleweight and light heavyweight divisions and Bernard Hopkins was 6 foot to his 5' 10 and looked like a monster compared to calzaghe. He still opened a can on him.

Its all about technique. Can't beat it. The 130 lb guy whos been practicing his finger jab to the windpipe for 10 years or the 230 lb bloke who cant walk for 30 minutes cos his leg muscles rub together too much? Bruce Lee any day.

[AirChair]

Honestly, muscle means very little in a fight. Very, VERY little. There are plenty of dudes that would ruin Ronnie faster than he could flex a bicep.

Like this guy:



The reverse, however, is that you have to understand a 'black belt' really doesn't mean ****. There are exceptionally skilled black belts in every martial art, and there are ones who essentially bought it (at most schools, 2 years and $250 equals a black belt). The kid you pictured: not very intimidating. Jet Li: very intimidating. Gracie: terrifying...to the point that nightmares fear him.

As far as one punch from Ronnie knocking you out, there's a chance he's too musclebound to actually swiftly punch you in the first place. Second, that's about as useless a qualifier as there is...Alicia Sacramone has one-punch knockout power, and she's a 5'3" Olympic gymnast. If you connect with the jaw properly, in most cases it's game over...and if not, you're stunned to the point that the second shot they throw ends it there. Trained fighters are a bit more accustomed to it and can take a bit more of a beating, but in the end it still doesn't take much.

It's also fairly clear that you've never really been in a fight, other than maybe schoolyard scuffles that started with I-shove-you-you-shove-me. There's really no such thing as a 'fair' fight...some dude's trying to beat the piss outta you, grab a bar stool for Christ's sake. All's fair...