Breakfast: Humour me

[Grinners]

Which of the following would be a better breakfast substance to consume:

Option A:

500 calories
10 grams of fat
40 grams of protein
59 grams of carbs
GI: 32

Option B:

500 calories
10 grams of fat
75 grams of carbohydrates
16.8 grams of protein
GI: 50

It seems clear to me which option is better, am I right in thinking that (given the same amount of calories of both) option A will be better for A) Fat loss, B) Muscle Preservation, C) Much lower GI.

Now when you take note that option A is 500 calories worth of light milk where as option B is 500 calories worth of oats, why do people insist on eating oats each morning rather than the equivelant, seemingly better, alternative of just milk?

Thanks for any input.

[RachelBringIt]

i think 150 cals of oats is a much better option, then add in egg whites, protein powder and whatever else you want, i like PB.

No hate towards 500 cals of milk, except youll have some major gas

[Grinners]

i think 150 cals of oats is a much better option, then add in egg whites, protein powder and whatever else you want, i like PB.

No hate towards 500 cals of milk, except youll have some major gas

Yeah, i agree 500 calories of oats is ridiculous, but it is a theoretical value (chosen so i could compare both macro's by having the same amount - obviously + or - amounts to suit but i just wanted to compare the macros).

[martina92685]

You'll be fuller longer with 500 cals of oats. In fact, I dont even think I could eat 500 cals of oats in one sitting without puking.

[tonutzda2@veriz]

Which of the following would be a better breakfast substance to consume:

Option A:

500 calories
10 grams of fat
40 grams of protein
59 grams of carbs
GI: 32

Option B:

500 calories
10 grams of fat
75 grams of carbohydrates
16.8 grams of protein
GI: 50

It seems clear to me which option is better, am I right in thinking that (given the same amount of calories of both) option A will be better for A) Fat loss, B) Muscle Preservation, C) Much lower GI.

Now when you take note that option A is 500 calories worth of light milk where as option B is 500 calories worth of oats, why do people insist on eating oats each morning rather than the equivelant, seemingly better, alternative of just milk?

Thanks for any input.

i think A) more protein to raise amino acid pools in the blood. as far as losing or gaining weight that has nothing to do with marco ratios that are present above, but more to do with calorie intake for you daily activitys that will determine wether one loses or gain mass.

just my pennies

[Grinners]

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[scotchy]

I say go for both...1000 calories FTW!

Actually 300 calories from oats and 200 from 2 and a bit cups of skim milk would be my choice given a 500cal cap.

I'm curious to hear some "more enlightened" responses too.
Personally I like milk...easy calories...just hate the bloat that often comes with it.

[wheylover]

my breadfast look like this:
100g oat
500ml milk
2 eggs
1 small apple
2 tbsp PB

around 900kcal, biggest meal of the day, then i train

note: i am just 143pds

[Grinners]

I say go for both...1000 calories FTW!

Actually 300 calories from oats and 200 from 2 and a bit cups of skim milk would be my choice given a 500cal cap.

I'm curious to hear some "more enlightened" responses too.
Personally I like milk...easy calories...just hate the bloat that often comes with it.

But the thing is... why not just go for option A twice?

If it is better, as it seems to be in virtually every way, why the insistance on oats for breakfast by virtually everyone in nutrition?

[Banyans]

You'll be fuller longer with 500 cals of oats. In fact, I dont even think I could eat 500 cals of oats in one sitting without puking.

I could in fact I did this morning... I can confirm I feel very full.

[BrendanJ]

Without knowing what source each comes from, I would pick option A.

If it is better, as it seems to be in virtually every way, why the insistance on oats for breakfast by virtually everyone in nutrition?

However knowing one's a liquid and the others a solid may (obviously everyone has different opinions) answer your question. I personally prefer solids to satisfy my hunger and yes the oats/eggs breakfast seems to be very popular around here. Having oats not only satisfys my hunger but when consumed with eggs makes for a balanced meal with very good and healthy sources of protein/carbs/fats to start the day.. nothing against milk, just for me I'd rather eat my calories then drink it.

[StylesOfBeyond]

slightly OT, how much oats do you guys have for breakfast? 100g? 200g? and how much milk do you have with it too?

generally i have 'scoops' of 60g of oats with 250 ml of milk and usually go for about 120/180 g. how bout you lot?

[wheylover]

slightly OT, how much oats do you guys have for breakfast? 100g? 200g? and how much milk do you have with it too?

generally i have 'scoops' of 60g of oats with 250 ml of milk and usually go for about 120/180 g. how bout you lot?

100g oat+500ml milk, mixed together with 2tbsp PB

[BenchRat]

i had like 1250 cals this morning, your all makin me feel like a fat ass lol

[PhobosWebDev]

The carbs in milk are from the sugar Lactose which your body cannot digest completely. Where as the carbs in oats are slow digesting carbs which will help you out through out the day.

[blacksmith77]

Breakfast: Humour me

An old couple celebrates their 50th wedding anniversary in their home.

"Just think," the old man says, "we were sitting here at this same breakfast table, naked as jaybirds, 50 years ago."

"Well," the old lady snickers, "what do you say -- should we get naked?"

The two immediately strip to the buff and sit back down at the table. "You know, honey," the little old lady says slyly, "My breasts burn for you now as they did 50 years ago."

"I'm not surprised," replies the old man. "One's in your coffee and the other is in your oatmeal!"

[Grinners]

The carbs in milk are from the sugar Lactose which your body cannot digest completely. Where as the carbs in oats are slow digesting carbs which will help you out through out the day.

Hmm, well as it can be seen, milk has a significantly lower GI than oats, so the carbs in milk (lactose/sugar) will last longer throughout the day than the carbs in oats.

[Grinners]

So not a single person in here can tell me why 'nutritionally' oats are better than milk alone as a breakfast... (except for lactose intolerant people) yet everyone chooses to eat them...???

[Olympique]

I can haz bof?


But if I must choose, I'll take the milk. I've had breakfasts with like 300 calories coming from dairy anyway.

[keels141]

It shouldn't be a question of which food is 'better', both foods have positives in terms of vitamins/minerals/good fats etc. and contribute to a healthy diet overall.

The GI measurements are pretty useless in your comparison anyway because it doesn't take into account combining P/C/F which affects absorption rate or the fact that protein can elevate insulin levels as much as carbs can. Also, a food on the Glycemic Index will not necessarily correlate with its rating on the Insulin Index, which is what GI is supposed to measure.

[determined4000]

if u r saying milk is better cuz lower GI and higher protein, than why not just eat Whey isolate

[Blindead]

The carbs in milk are from the sugar Lactose which your body cannot digest completely. Where as the carbs in oats are slow digesting carbs which will help you out through out the day.

No everyone is lactose intolerant. And lactose is slower digesting than oats. The GI above could have told you that.

[Olympique]

if u r saying milk is better cuz lower GI and higher protein, than why not just eat Whey isolate

I think that's what some people in these forums would like to do.