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    Hard to be Indian and lose weight

    I'm Punjabi so i constantly consume roti (made of flour and dough) throughout the day. Is that bad for weight loss because theres alot of carbs in there? Most of the time its whole wheat flour.

    I try to balance out the carbs while eating alot of vegetables along with it (green peppers, lentil curry, beans, chick peas, carrots,potatoes) or sometimes butter chicken(very good but fattening) or goat meat, sometimes tandoori fish (pretty healhty)

    I try to not eat roti but its hard to get by i need help!!
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    Just limit roti to once a week to just 3 or 4.
    how long have u been exercising? give details?
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    Originally Posted by Gary402 View Post
    I'm Punjabi so i constantly consume roti (made of flour and dough) throughout the day. Is that bad for weight loss because theres alot of carbs in there? Most of the time its whole wheat flour.

    I try to balance out the carbs while eating alot of vegetables along with it (green peppers, lentil curry, beans, chick peas, carrots,potatoes) or sometimes butter chicken(very good but fattening) or goat meat, sometimes tandoori fish (pretty healhty)

    I try to not eat roti but its hard to get by i need help!!
    And you are probably eating a lot of butter (ghee). Count calories & cut back on total calories.
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    Was in the same boat as you bro, just completely stopped eating Indian food.
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    Quit the roti, and by the way is roti like a sort of bread or muffin? But anyways quit eating starchy-carbs. and get most of your carbs from fruits and green vegetables

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    Originally Posted by Gary402 View Post
    I'm Punjabi so i constantly consume roti (made of flour and dough) throughout the day. Is that bad for weight loss because theres alot of carbs in there? Most of the time its whole wheat flour.

    I try to balance out the carbs while eating alot of vegetables along with it (green peppers, lentil curry, beans, chick peas, carrots,potatoes) or sometimes butter chicken(very good but fattening) or goat meat, sometimes tandoori fish (pretty healhty)

    I try to not eat roti but its hard to get by i need help!!
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    What i've noticed about indians is not being hard at losing weight, but just being flabby and skinny fat (no racist) so best to post some pics, if you are like any of the indians i see around my hometown, you may need to bulk some muscle first before you have anything to cut too.

    I adore indian food, but it seems to consist of high fats and carbs, with very little protein.
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    If I were Indian, it would be impossible for me to lose ... it's become my favorite food, beating out both Mexican and Chinese food now. But all those rich sauces and butter and carbs ... poori (YUM) and nan. I had to limit myself to only going to an Indian restaurant occasionally. Seems like there are plenty of healthy Indian foods too, lots of veggies. But yeah, I can imagine you'll have to strip your diet away from all the sauces and get down to the basics to really be successful.
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    My friend: the truth is that it is very *hard* to be an american, and live in USA, and lose weight. That is the real truth. According to statistics USA has more obesity percentage than India or any other country. So i think that you shouldn't feel bad, because the people who have to feel real bad about losing weight is the people who live in USA

    The statistics also state that most immigrants who come to USA, gain weight, so it's really the american supermarkets and the way people eat in this country, the excessive carb intake in the american diet, which i think its a lot worse than Indian diet or any other country's diet.

    People in America eat way too many carbs from pancakes, breakfast cereals in the mornings, to white breads in sandwhiches and dessert for lunch and potatoes (a real bad starchy carb) for dinner and ice-cream.

    So no wonder USA has the highest rate of weight-gain in the general population.

    And then there are now the ghosts of institutionalized gluttony and greed in Christmas.

    Here is an article about the American way of eating around thanksgiving and christmas holidays:

    The Ghosts of Misplaced Conscience
    By Charles Sullivan
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    Everything about America is done to the max—super sized—including ourselves. Americans are fond of excess, fond of glitz and glitter, the bright beads and trinkets of capitalism; the symbols of conspicuous consumption. Millions of us live in McMansions, drive fast cars and hulking tanks and work at high stress glamorous jobs that provide enormous financial reward but leave us spiritually empty.

    We tell ourselves that these events signal that we have arrived and achieved greatness worthy of respect and envy. They are a declaration that we have played the game and won; that we have acquired economic power that results in elevated socio-economic status and disproportional influence over the lives of the less successful; and those who have utterly failed or refused to participate.

    We love to consume and waste with an appalling sense of entitlement. Our lives are enacted amid heaping mounds of swelling garbage and filth, while some of our fellow human beings pass lives of quiet desperation in cardboard boxes beneath our nation’s highway bridges, like beetles that move beneath the bark of trees: out of sight, out of mind, inconsequential—or so we think.

    It’s a jungle out there where only the fittest survive. Those who cannot compete must not survive to reproduce; they must be expelled from the gene pool. Modern capitalism is economic Darwinism carried to the extreme.

    America is a land of extraordinary contradictions. She has produced not only George Bush and Dick Cheney but also George Carlin, Upton Sinclair, Eugene Debs and Howard Zinn. This is a land of extremes; enigmatic even to itself. It is a place of posh surroundings with all of the amenities money can buy; but it is also a land of unknowable hardship and destitution that often exists in close proximity to stupendous wealth.

    Just as the continent holds lush temperate rain forests, so it also harbors deserts where only the strong and well adapted survive the harsh conditions of heat and drought and oscillating cold.

    Surely the national pastime must be shopping, which has acquired the stature of a genuine addiction; a disease on a par with alcoholism and played with the passion of a competitive sport. Witness the insanity of black Friday, the busiest shopping day of the year where people are annually trampled at the doors of Wal-Mart in the quest for the latest incarnation of the X-Box. He with the most toys wins and the losers are trampled underfoot, ground into dust. Possessions matter more than people.

    And we are a restless, fiercely competitive people—constantly on the move; a people that cannot countenance open spaces or unmanaged nature.

    Hundreds of thousands of shopping centers and strip malls bear ample testimony to our excess, as do the mountains of debt that rise out of our spending habits like a newly spawned volcano swelling above a rising column of molten magma. Eventually they will become our gravestones—monuments to our lack of empathy and testaments to our unbridled greed and contempt for the earth.

    The developers cannot relax until every inch of the earth is urbanized and paved and there is a McDonald’s and Wal-Mart on every street corner; a development in place of every orchard and farm. We cannot relax until everything wild and natural has been eradicated or imprisoned in zoos and admission is charged. Imagine a continent sized gated community for the well-heeled and the wealthy. The poor and destitute need not apply.

    More than democracy, more than liberty, more than life—give us our shopping malls so that we can purchase happiness and fill our empty lives with possessions. Our senses are incessantly assaulted by merciless commercialism—we are programmed to consume and to be consumed by our programmers in the advertising industry whose job it is to plant the seeds of want in our all too receptive minds. Conspicuous consumption is the cornerstone of mature capitalism and no people in history have been more prominent consumers than we Americans—as measured by the girth of our waistlines and the girth of our mounting debt.

    But as much as we are the products of Madison Avenue advertisers, we are also products of arrested psychological and spiritual development. We exhibit extreme pathologies because our lives are not rooted in nature and community; nor are they rooted in reality. Like spoiled adolescents, we have locked ourselves away with our box of toys and we call the world our own. We are a danger not only to ourselves but to the entire world. Quarantine should be drawn around us lest we infect the rest of the world with our madness.

    Oblivious to the consequences of our own excess, our sphere of caring rarely extends beyond the self and our immediate families to the communities in which we are embedded that in turn spill into the great world beyond. We have erected psychological and physical barriers that isolate us from the rest of the world which have given rise to pathological visions of grandeur and exceptionalism. And, like a run-away virus, we are replicating our madness to the rest of the world which is, thanks to the disciples of Milton Friedman, seeking to emulate our example.

    Better the world turn away and run for their lives as if we were infected with a new strain of pox or rabies. Better they should save themselves and let us perish, as will surely occur when we are consumed by the festering sewers of our swelling vanity.

    We call ourselves a free people but we are prisoners of our own petty desires; prisoners of greed and excess and manufactured want; the products of capitalism taken to the extreme—replicating with the ease of cancer cells unrestrained by reason or empathy for others and for the earth. The world cannot tolerate another America. She cannot much longer sustain the one she already has. We have a carbon footprint vastly disproportional to our numbers and we are not only blotting out the sun; we are stamping out countless species of plants and animals and casting them into the abyss of eternal extinction. The ecological cost of our excess is incalculable.

    We go on as if there are no consequences to what we do, ignoring the wolves baying at our door and the grim reaper peering at us through the curtain. We tell ourselves they are only apparitions of conspiracy theorists and alarmists, the ghosts of misplaced conscience.

    Millions of Americans are experts at self-denial and delusional to the extreme, while others are realists and components of active resistance. But, cause and effect rarely enters our vocabulary. History, science and ethics are not our strengths—we prefer to go shopping or watching television, giving no thought to the kind of world we are leaving our children and their off spring, much less the offspring of other species. We hold that the universe turns on its axis and we are its center; but it is not so.

    As a result of our excesses, terms such as ‘peak oil’ and ‘peak water’ have come into existence. Gluttony occurs on one end of the supply chain at the expense of the other; just as food webs are affected by events occurring at all parts of an ecological web the size of the world. One cannot pluck a flower without also troubling a star. All things are interconnected.

    How easily we forget that commercial exuberance rests on the broken bodies of the exploited worker; it rests on the scrolls of flora and fauna that have been pushed out of existence because there isn’t enough room for them and us with all of our precious, energy consuming toys.

    Thus we live in a world that is not enriched by our example but is diminished by us. Injustice is a byproduct of commercial exuberance as manifested by declarations of superiority through class warfare and other avenues of inequality. And it is felt in the dimly lit sweatshop somewhere in the belching slums of industrialized China, engulfed by the droning hum of sowing machines that never cease behind bolted doors; and guided by gnarled hands attaching Nike labels to athletic apparel destined for upscale Target and Macy’s stores in the US.

    True, capitalism has made cheap products available to the voracious American consumer; but it has also given the world preemptive war and famine, global corporatism, pestilence and wage slavery; it has stoked the fires of mass extinction, global warming and ecological collapse—all of which have acquired an unstoppable momentum of their own with unimaginable consequences that extend indefinitely into an already uncertain future. There are consequences to everything we do, just as there are consequences to inaction.

    Yet it is increasingly obvious that too few of us care enough to take action, as long as we are free to buy and to consume. We keep the consequences of gluttony out of sight and out of mind and pretend they aren’t there. But they are present and they matter.

    And this brings me to the main point of my essay: it cannot go on. The age of exuberance—like the age of cheap oil—is mercifully drawing to a close. So I will say what was never meant to spoken aloud in the land of excess; and I will say it loud and clear so that it cannot be mistaken: Americans must dramatically simplify their lives to want less and learn more. We constitute less than five percent of the of the world’s population while usurping more than a quarter of her bounty. This is not acceptable—nor is it ethical.
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    No one has a moral right to take more than their fair share when that taking jeopardizes the chances of others of living a decent life, or makes nil their chances for survival—including other species.

    Contrary to what one might think, we do not have to live like third world nations or like the hunters and gatherers of the past. But we must dramatically reduce our consumption and shrink our carbon footprint. Not only must we live within our own means but within the means of the planet to support us.

    The majority of our food should be locally grown and mass transit must supplant the gluttonous and polluting automobile that proliferates on our nation’s highways. Moratoriums on development and urban sprawl must be enacted in order to protect critical habitat and rainwater recharge areas. Cities and towns must be redesigned and revitalized with sustainable industry. Goods and services, including work and jobs must again, as they were in the past, be rooted in vibrant, small scale local economies; and free trade agreements revoked.

    Technological advances—no matter how boldly they are touted as saviors of humankind cannot increase the world’s carrying capacity and they cannot invoke justice. The latter is entirely up to us as sentient beings endowed with conscience. And this brings me to a second point: we must reduce the human population through adoption and cease to procreate for at least one generation—so that the earth can recover her carrying capacity. What better way to save the world, literally.

    Simultaneously simplifying our lives by wanting less and reducing the human population will allow room for other people and other beings to share the bounty of the earth. And it will almost certainly have a beneficent rather than pathological social and psychological consequence: it will end our isolation and reconnect us to the rest of the world. We could finally realize our enormous potential to become world citizens and good neighbors worthy of respect and love.

    Rather than an economy based upon savage greed and exploitation, let us create an economy based upon justice and equality, need rather than excess; a society that does not leave people behind but invites the full participation of everyone and recognizes that, “An injury to one is an injury to all.” Let it be all inclusive and worthy of respect: where every woman, man, and child, every being of this earth is the same under the law and equally respected and valued—a great global community seeking harmony rather than competitive advantage.

    In the end, equality is beholden to the system we choose. Did we ask that the world be run on the profits of greed, or the prophets of wisdom? Where was that democratic choice? The profits of greed have given us voracious greed, consuming everything in sight; but they didn’t give us a choice; they took away our freedom and made us into lesser beings. But, if we are to muster ourselves to call ourselves Human one last time, where the prophets of wisdom really did have something to say, where people and the planet are put before profits in the Golden Rule, and where we have one large collective foot standing on the profit of greed then maybe, maybe YES we will turn this thing around: http://www.planetization.org.


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    Originally Posted by Gary402 View Post
    I'm Punjabi so i constantly consume roti (made of flour and dough) throughout the day. Is that bad for weight loss because theres alot of carbs in there? Most of the time its whole wheat flour.

    I try to balance out the carbs while eating alot of vegetables along with it (green peppers, lentil curry, beans, chick peas, carrots,potatoes) or sometimes butter chicken(very good but fattening) or goat meat, sometimes tandoori fish (pretty healthy)

    I try to not eat roti but its hard to get by i need help!!
    I'm Indian too (Gujarati) and I understand what you are going through-look at my progress pics and how I had lost a lot of weight from 2004.

    If you eat roti, think of 1 roti as 1.5 slices of whole wheat bread (you MUST eat whole wheat roti). Eat them preferably throughout the daytime and replace the ghee with a monounsaturated spread. Eat any carbohydrate based protein sources like chickpeas,beans,lentils and legumes in the daytime as at night it's more likely to be stored as fat.

    You should not really have foods like roti, rice, potatoes, legumes/beans/lentils or chick peas at night as they are carbohydrate based. If you can't go without roti at night then have only 1 at night and no carb based foods. Eat your meats at night (preferably the poultry 4-5x a week, fish 2x a week, and red meat only 1x a week).

    No buttery or creamy sauces- have your curry but with no fattening dairy-use sunflower oil or peanut oil for the base. If you eat tandoori foods then eat tandoori meat at night as it's all meat and spices. If you like the creamy taste then put in fat free or low-fat yogurt as your sauce base.

    Eggs are great to lose weight-2 to 4 a day provides you with lots of protein and tastes good. Not too many though-they are high in calories (even if the fat inside doesn't affect blood cholesterol, it is a calorie at the end of the day).

    Eat your other vegetables throughout the day or night-they have vitamins and fill you up.

    No fried punjabi food like pakora or samosa!

    No sweets after dinner- if you insist then have a fat free lassi or fat free milkshake- only 1 glass!

    Good luck
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    hey whatsup im indian as well... so i feel you man..

    the only thing i can say is that you will have to think what is a priority to you. bodybuilding or indian food?

    theres nothing really nutirtious if u cook roti in ghee or so..
    just stop eating roti or as a matter of fact any "punjabi " food.. how many ripped punjabi men do you know??

    tell your parents to cook seperately for you.. and occasionally have some chick peas or beans...
    if u want to be ripped you have to make a comprimise
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    Originally Posted by chotadesi View Post
    hey whatsup im indian as well... so i feel you man..

    the only thing i can say is that you will have to think what is a priority to you. bodybuilding or indian food?

    theres nothing really nutirtious if u cook roti in ghee or so..
    just stop eating roti or as a matter of fact any "punjabi " food.. how many ripped punjabi men do you know??

    tell your parents to cook seperately for you.. and occasionally have some chick peas or beans...
    if u want to be ripped you have to make a comprimise


    there are lots of ripped punjabi men what do u mean?

    thanks everyone for the replies i am definately implemented those tips into my diet.
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    i went something similar man, except im mexican and we eat tortilla with everything. avg i was eating 10 tortillas a day, but i limit to just 1 or 2 now, its all about limiting.
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    I make my mom put no ghee on it.. less calories the better..


    limit yourself to maybe one small indian meal a day..counting calories is the best way to go.. try not to eat just indian foods throughout the day..eat oats and eggs for breakfast...maybe an indian meal for lunch and at night grab a sandwich or something along that nature..

    also, drink protein shakes to replace one of your smaller meals that you might eat.. always best to get more protein then fat in your body when losing weight..


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    I just told my mum i don't like the stuff and it gives me an upset stomach. That prompted her to make a crap load of western food for me.
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    hey im indian too..and I agree you can't really lose weight on Indian food...and my mom has been making indian food with literally no ghee, and practically no oil for at least 10 years...she makes indian food with olive oil now lol..

    i taught myself how to cook out of necessity...I didn't want to burden anyone else in the house into making separate dinners..so I just experimented, now I cook healthy food that my family wants to eat over indian food as well.

    start with something thats easy and cant really be messed up: a stir-fry!

    instead you could break out a george foreman grill and a boil some broccoli/cauliflaur/asparagus....or another favorite..mix veggies into pasta sauce, add some extra lean ground meat and serve over a small amount of whole wheat pasta....slowly and gradually you will perfect basic items and then want to incorporate more.

    trust me this is the only way you will get lean...if your not the one cooking the food then you really have no control over what goes in it and what eventually goes in you
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    Originally Posted by member67 View Post
    hey im indian too..and I agree you can't really lose weight on Indian food...and my mom has been making indian food with literally no ghee, and practically no oil for at least 10 years...she makes indian food with olive oil now lol..

    i taught myself how to cook out of necessity...I didn't want to burden anyone else in the house into making separate dinners..so I just experimented, now I cook healthy food that my family wants to eat over indian food as well.

    start with something thats easy and cant really be messed up: a stir-fry!

    instead you could break out a george foreman grill and a boil some broccoli/cauliflaur/asparagus....or another favorite..mix veggies into pasta sauce, add some extra lean ground meat and serve over a small amount of whole wheat pasta....slowly and gradually you will perfect basic items and then want to incorporate more.

    trust me this is the only way you will get lean...if your not the one cooking the food then you really have no control over what goes in it and what eventually goes in you

    honestly my mom has been putting in effort to make it healtheir also, using whole wheat atta instead of white. Although this helps, it still contains a large amount of carbs.

    i am gona eat a healthy indian meal pre work out (meaning roti with some vegetables like beans green peppers, chick peas, lentils) and yogurt.

    throughout the rest of the day i will have have no direct source of carbs because im going on ketosis
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    I'm Indian as well, and I've lost 20lbs since I starting weightlifing this year back in late Feb/Early March, I've also gained a lot of muscle since then. However, I severly limit the Indian foods I eat. I consider it a cheat to have most Indian food. My family is also vegetarian, so I try to get as much Soy/Whey as possible. As mentioned before, there are so many good foods though, and it's so hard to pass them up,

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    Originally Posted by Gary402 View Post
    I'm Punjabi so i constantly consume roti (made of flour and dough) throughout the day. Is that bad for weight loss because theres alot of carbs in there? Most of the time its whole wheat flour.

    I try to balance out the carbs while eating alot of vegetables along with it (green peppers, lentil curry, beans, chick peas, carrots,potatoes) or sometimes butter chicken(very good but fattening) or goat meat, sometimes tandoori fish (pretty healhty)

    I try to not eat roti but its hard to get by i need help!!
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    Not all indian food is bad. I actually have a plate of Palak Paneer everyday for lunch. 500 calories 38 grams of fat 22 grams of protein 16g carbs (6 Fiber). This works very well with my keto diet. And i've lost close to 30 pounds of mostly fat over the last 4 months (been on Keto for past 2 months).
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    I feel your pain but you are going to have to cut out a lot of indian food that is heavily bread based. I know this sucks first hand because I am bosnian and a lot of our dishes are reallly carb heavy.
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    Originally Posted by Gary402 View Post
    I'm Punjabi so i constantly consume roti (made of flour and dough) throughout the day. Is that bad for weight loss because theres alot of carbs in there? Most of the time its whole wheat flour.

    I try to balance out the carbs while eating alot of vegetables along with it (green peppers, lentil curry, beans, chick peas, carrots,potatoes) or sometimes butter chicken(very good but fattening) or goat meat, sometimes tandoori fish (pretty healhty)

    I try to not eat roti but its hard to get by i need help!!
    lol bro I am punjabi too and I know exactly what you mean..... just take control of your own diet, just tell your parents what you want to do, buy separate food for yourself and get on your journey.

    Good luck man.
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    March 19 2013:->215 Pounds/98 Kg
    March 22---April 6th -> 1 Kg Lost -_-
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    April 25th 2013:->208 Pounds/94.6 kg
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    Originally Posted by Lemonzest View Post
    What i've noticed about indians is not being hard at losing weight, but just being flabby and skinny fat (no racist) so best to post some pics, if you are like any of the indians i see around my hometown, you may need to bulk some muscle first before you have anything to cut too.

    I adore indian food, but it seems to consist of high fats and carbs, with very little protein.
    lots of different types of indians.

    Punjabi=Alpha :P

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    Your problem is not that your Indian but that you have a crappy diet. I am American and have access to a plethora of crappy food but must choose whats more important, the food or the physique goals. The same choice is yours.
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