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    Propadrol Methyl E stack. help

    How should i stack this. I searched for any post or reports on past users but couldn't find anything. Any help???
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    anything?
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    have you done a pro hormone b4?

    idk what the dose of prop is. i hear its only beneficial at really high doses which means get a couple bottles.

    the epistane tho u can dose

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    thats what i did
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    Originally Posted by Jarredbm View Post
    anything?
    Thats gonna be a pretty dry stack, maybe too dry imo.
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    kingjames has a log of stacking Methyl E with Bold and Testabolan floating around, had good results. I'm about to run a cycle in January of Methyl E / Bold
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    Originally Posted by Eyayo View Post
    Thats gonna be a pretty dry stack, maybe too dry imo.
    Lol...too dry?
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    i have done h and m drol...
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    Originally Posted by Chaosvash View Post
    Lol...too dry?
    yea. Havoc is best ran at 40-50mg, proadrol 90. Havoc is very dry, and propadrol has an anti-e in it.
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    Originally Posted by Eyayo View Post
    yea. Havoc is best ran at 40-50mg, proadrol 90. Havoc is very dry, and propadrol has an anti-e in it.
    Lol, I'm tempted to neg you, running havoc at more then 40mg will only give more sides then gains and propadrol does not contain an anti-e, read the labels first.
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    epistane can have some estrogen reducing effects maybe thats what he ment
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    Originally Posted by Chaosvash View Post
    Lol, I'm tempted to neg you, running havoc at more then 40mg will only give more sides then gains and propadrol does not contain an anti-e, read the labels first.
    Well you have more research to do then. Ive read a few posts where people have said 40-50mg is where its at, not to mention i have ran it at said dosages.

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    Originally Posted by Eyayo View Post
    Well you have more research to do then. Ive read a few posts where people have said 40-50mg is where its at, not to mention i have ran it at said dosages.

    12-Ethyl-3-Methoxy-Gona-Diene 17- Steroid

    6-17 dihydroxyetiocholove-3-ol proponate(3-OHAT)- Anti-e

    Maybe u should heed ur own advice!
    I want to see a study showing that 3-ohat has any anti-e properties on its own, secondly I did not see it because the label on the product is very messy http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/est/prop.html.

    And I have read over a dozen posts saying that over 40mg only increases sides and doesn't really provide more gains.
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    Originally Posted by Chaosvash View Post
    I want to see a study showing that 3-ohat has any anti-e properties on its own, secondly I did not see it because the label on the product is very messy http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/est/prop.html.

    And I have read over a dozen posts saying that over 40mg only increases sides and doesn't really provide more gains.




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    The metabolism of 4-androstene-3,6,17-trione (AT), previously described as a suicide substrate for aromatase, and its irreversible binding to aromatase were studied by using human placental microsomes. AT was rapidly converted into 3 beta-reduced metabolite (3-OHAT) with an enzyme other than aromatase in the microsomes in the presence of NADPH under either aerobic or anaerobic conditions. The conversion was efficiently prevented by a steroid 5 alpha-reductase inhibitor. 3-OHAT was characterized as a competitive (Ki = 6.5 microM) and irreversible inhibitor of aromatase. Both 14C-labeled AT and 3-OHAT were demonstrated to be irreversibly bound to aromatase probably through a sulfur atom of the enzyme in time-dependent manners in the presence of NADPH, being accompanied with time-dependent losses of the enzyme activity. It was shown that the process of an apparent time-dependent loss of aromatase activity caused by AT even under conditions allowing its 3 beta-reduction should principally depend on the action of the parent inhibitor AT itself and not on that of the metabolite 3-OHAT.
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    Originally Posted by Eyayo View Post
    Studies on aromatase inhibition with 4-androstene-3,6,17-trione: its 3 beta-reduction and time-dependent irreversible binding to aromatase with human placental microsomes.

    Numazawa M, Tsuji M, Mutsumi A.

    Tohoku College of Pharmacy, Sendai, Japan.

    The metabolism of 4-androstene-3,6,17-trione (AT), previously described as a suicide substrate for aromatase, and its irreversible binding to aromatase were studied by using human placental microsomes. AT was rapidly converted into 3 beta-reduced metabolite (3-OHAT) with an enzyme other than aromatase in the microsomes in the presence of NADPH under either aerobic or anaerobic conditions. The conversion was efficiently prevented by a steroid 5 alpha-reductase inhibitor. 3-OHAT was characterized as a competitive (Ki = 6.5 microM) and irreversible inhibitor of aromatase. Both 14C-labeled AT and 3-OHAT were demonstrated to be irreversibly bound to aromatase probably through a sulfur atom of the enzyme in time-dependent manners in the presence of NADPH, being accompanied with time-dependent losses of the enzyme activity. It was shown that the process of an apparent time-dependent loss of aromatase activity caused by AT even under conditions allowing its 3 beta-reduction should principally depend on the action of the parent inhibitor AT itself and not on that of the metabolite 3-OHAT.


    I see, but I highly doubt propadrol has enough if its only in a 30mg blend to cause any problems.
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    Yea, but when u stack 2 dry compunds then it is, esp at the dosages that are most effective. If it was with a wet ph/ps or running it solo. it wouldnt be a prob.
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    Originally Posted by Eyayo View Post
    Yea, but when u stack 2 dry compunds then it is, esp at the dosages that are most effective. If it was with a wet ph/ps or running it solo. it wouldnt be a prob.
    What problems can he possibly have?
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    achy joints can hinder gains by messing with workout, plus dehydartion could be an issue
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