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    Originally Posted by JAGERBOY View Post
    I disagree. It gets people talking which is exactly what needs to happen in this country. We've been "debating" for years. If we piss people off, then the conversation will happen. And why should we walk on egg shells to appease the religious right? The sign essentially does the same exact thing, it asserts an opinion on reality. You could easily switch your statement around and say its pissing off atheists and giving Christians a bad name to put up the nativity scene.

    bull ****. Then i should be able to walk around saying ****** with no reprocussions, stfu and gtfo please your sickening. Why should we walk on egg shells for anything, why cant we talk bad about obama, blacks, ect... Yeah double standards much.

    This forum is so moronic just like the atheists in it.
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    First of all, there shouldn't be any religious displays at capitol.

    Either way, if they are going to allow a religious sign it should at least be mutual.

    Bill O'Reilly is a tool

    lol @ Bill O'Reilly claiming a lot of the Constitution is based on the teachings of Jesus
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    Originally Posted by Astaldoath View Post
    bull ****. Then i should be able to walk around saying ****** with no reprocussions, stfu and gtfo please your sickening. Why should we walk on egg shells for anything, why cant we talk bad about obama, blacks, ect... Yeah double standards much.

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    Thanks for neggin me ***gots. WE had a nativity scene set up there, not a sign that said "atheists lack reason and are ****s". in reaction to it you make a sign mocking our beliefs so **** off.

    your logic makes no ****in sense, ofcourse i agree you should have the right to free speech but the sign was uncalled for and meant soley to be controversial just like all of you anti-religious attention-whore emo kids.
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    Originally Posted by Astaldoath View Post
    bull ****. Then i should be able to walk around saying ****** with no reprocussions, stfu and gtfo please your sickening. Why should we walk on egg shells for anything, why cant we talk bad about obama, blacks, ect... Yeah double standards much.

    This forum is so moronic just like the atheists in it.
    Did you watch the second video? As soon as it crosses the line and becomes "fighting words" it is no longer protected.

    With that said, I've seen signs from Christians implying that as a non believer I'd go to hell, which is supposed to be the worst place imaginable according to them. That is pretty offensive in and of itself.
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    if you want to see a christmas display, go to church. we have them all over the building!

    if you want to have your legal work tended to, go to the county court house. I dont expect to see any religious displays there; i expect to see a notery public able to help.
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    Originally Posted by JAGERBOY View Post
    I disagree. It gets people talking which is exactly what needs to happen in this country. We've been "debating" for years. If we piss people off, then the conversation will happen. And why should we walk on egg shells to appease the religious right? The sign essentially does the same exact thing, it asserts an opinion on reality. You could easily switch your statement around and say its pissing off atheists and giving Christians a bad name to put up the nativity scene.
    It seems to me that atheist are desperately trying to turn people away from their religion, but religious people in general just dont give a **** about atheists. Atheists are raging!!!
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    Originally Posted by Fanatik View Post
    It seems to me that atheist are desperately trying to turn people away from their religion, but religious people in general just dont give a **** about atheists. Atheists are raging!!!
    Incorrect. Myself, and most other atheists couldn't care less what you do at your church or in your home...its when religion starts creeping into our government that we have a problem with it. If you want to believe in unobservable things with poor or no evidence to support them, go for it. Just know that if you bring it up or post on public forum about it you may be rediculed or challenged for your beliefs.
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    Originally Posted by JAGERBOY View Post
    Incorrect. Myself, and most other atheists couldn't care less what you do at your church or in your home...its when religion starts creeping into our government that we have a problem with it. If you want to believe in unobservable things with poor or no evidence to support them, go for it. Just know that if you bring it up or post on public forum about it you may be rediculed or challenged for your beliefs.
    Religion is something that existed way before our government. You cant say that religion is ''creeping into our government'' because religion whether you like it or not is a part of our government. Hence ''in god we trust'' on dollar bills.
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    Originally Posted by Fanatik View Post
    Religion is something that existed way before our government. You cant say that religion is ''creeping into our government'' because religion whether you like it or not is a part of our government. Hence ''in god we trust'' on dollar bills.
    No, religion is not something that necessarily existed before government for one. Second, "in god we trust" was added on our money in the 1950's, it wasn't always like this. Our founders set this country up to be secular and not endorse any religions or stop anyone from practicing any religion. This country is NOT a theocracy.
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    Originally Posted by Fanatik View Post
    Religion is something that existed way before our government. You cant say that religion is ''creeping into our government'' because religion whether you like it or not is a part of our government. Hence ''in god we trust'' on dollar bills.
    1. God and religion are two different concepts.
    2. The expression you mention was not added to the money until 1864. (Jagerboy is confusing this with "One Nation Under God" which was added to the Pledge in 1954 to further separate our philosophy with that of the Soviets.)

    When you say that religion is part of our government, to which do you refer? Remember the Establishment clause before your answer.
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    Originally Posted by SDMuscleBuddy View Post
    1. God and religion are two different concepts.

    When you say that religion is part of our government, to which do you refer? Remember the Establishment clause before your answer.
    God, Religion, and especially Christianity are not the exact same, though. Does referring to God really offend any religion? Could it not also be an umbrella to encompass all religions? I.e. In <Insert your deity here[God]> We Trust.
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    Originally Posted by SDMuscleBuddy View Post
    1. God and religion are two different concepts.
    2. The expression you mention was not added to the money until 1864. (Jagerboy is confusing this with "One Nation Under God" which was added to the Pledge in 1954 to further separate our philosophy with that of the Soviets.)

    When you say that religion is part of our government, to which do you refer? Remember the Establishment clause before your answer.
    I am actually correct, but thanks.

    http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-...we-trust.shtml

    "A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957. The Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) was converting to the dry intaglio printing process. During this conversion, it gradually included IN GOD WE TRUST in the back design of all classes and denominations of currency."
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    It seems to me that atheist are desperately trying to turn people away from their religion, but religious people in general just dont give a **** about atheists. Atheists are raging!!!
    Atheists are Satan's minions trying to lead as many people astray as they can. In essence, they're lost and miserable and want the rest of us to be just as lost and miserable.
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    Atheists are Satan's minions trying to lead as many people astray as they can. In essence, they're lost and miserable and want the rest of us to be just as lost and miserable.
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    I lol'd.
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    Originally Posted by JAGERBOY View Post
    I am actually correct, but thanks.

    http://www.treas.gov/education/fact-...we-trust.shtml

    "A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957. The Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) was converting to the dry intaglio printing process. During this conversion, it gradually included IN GOD WE TRUST in the back design of all classes and denominations of currency."
    I was wondering what the date they added that was. I was about to say that i happen to own a $5 bill from 1950 and no where on it is the term "In God We Trust".

    So that term definetly hasn't always been on our money.
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    Why? Nothing better to do?
    Couldn't the same be said of either party? Christians have nothing better to do than build nativity scenes on the steps of a capitol building, and atheists have nothing better to do than slap a poster up next to those scenes.
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    Why? Nothing better to do?
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    Originally Posted by Anticrombie315 View Post
    Couldn't the same be said of either party? Christians have nothing better to do than build nativity scenes on the steps of a capitol building, and atheists have nothing better to do than slap a poster up next to those scenes.
    It's a nativity scene. Those are genuinely associated with Christmas, and the time surrounding said holiday. That's like saying, "nothing better to do than to put up tree/lights/santa's/other decorations"?
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Atheists are Satan's minions trying to lead as many people astray as they can. In essence, they're lost and miserable and want the rest of us to be just as lost and miserable.


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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Atheists are Satan's minions trying to lead as many people astray as they can. In essence, they're lost and miserable and want the rest of us to be just as lost and miserable.
    You figured me out.
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    Originally Posted by Tsudo View Post
    It's a nativity scene. Those are genuinely associated with Christmas, and the time surrounding said holiday. That's like saying, "nothing better to do than to put up tree/lights/santa's/other decorations"?
    All I'm saying is, Krane's post was absolutely worthless in the context of this discussion.
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