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    Atheists most hated group in the US...

    http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistb...heitsHated.htm

    I see this everyday too, everyone associates atheism with a negative connotation. Like, atheists dont have morals or something and they are the devil or some ****.
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    Yeah, doesn't surprise me. My last girlfriends parents hated the fact I was atheist, but I guess I can kinda understand that in a way because they were hardcore religious. They even had pictures of Jesus on their walls. So I was like the anti-Christ railing their angel daughter. However, I always got stupid speeches like "We are praying for you" "God has a plan for you", it got old quickly. And frankly, it offended me to no end.
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    Originally Posted by hassaanu View Post
    http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistb...heitsHated.htm

    I see this everyday too, everyone associates atheism with a negative connotation. Like, atheists dont have morals or something and they are the devil or some ****.
    Can you say "Stalin", can you say "Mao Tse Tung", can you say "Pol Pot", can say "Kim Il Jung", or "Fidel Castro", etc..?

    Atheists hate themselves and other atheists. Atheists have twice the suicide rate of non-atheists, they are twice as likely to not marry and twice as likely to be childless. Check out their mental health statistics too.
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    Not to mention, it has been atheists who have been the record setters for slaughtering people.. they have made Hitler look like a rank amateur, both in brutality and numbers..
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    Originally Posted by ripper6 View Post
    Can you say "Stalin", can you say "Mao Tse Tung", can you say "Pol Pot", can say "Kim Il Jung", or "Fidel Castro", etc..?

    Atheists hate themselves and other atheists. Atheists have twice the suicide rate of non-atheists, they are twice as likely to not marry and twice as likely to be childless. Check out their mental health statistics too.
    They did not commit crimes because they were atheists. There are far more religious people in this world who have committed atrocious crimes. Must I remind you of the crusades? Spanish inquisition? Witch trials?

    Atheists do not hate themselves, nor do they hate other atheists.

    I'd be interested to see the proof you have for all those statistics.
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    Originally Posted by Nagalfar View Post
    Not to mention, it has been atheists who have been the record setters for slaughtering people.. they have made Hitler look like a rank amateur, both in brutality and numbers..
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    Originally Posted by Nagalfar View Post
    Not to mention, it has been atheists who have been the record setters for slaughtering people.. they have made Hitler look like a rank amateur, both in brutality and numbers..
    You guys love to say this kind of stuff but you don't have any proof to back it up....why does that surprise me?

    That's all you religious nutcases ever do, is make claims and never back them up with evidence.
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    Originally Posted by Nagalfar View Post
    Not to mention, it has been atheists who have been the record setters for slaughtering people.. they have made Hitler look like a rank amateur, both in brutality and numbers..
    As far as I know, none of them killed in the name of atheism.

    The funny thing is religious people tend to think that all atheists follow some sort of doctrine, and live under a different sets of norms than everyone else. This couldn't be further from the truth. The only connecting factor of atheists is the lack of a belief in deities.
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    Originally Posted by Gordon Bombay View Post
    As far as I know, none of them killed in the name of atheism.
    said perfectly.

    atheists dont kill others in the name of their religion(or lack of) while religious ***gets do.
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    Originally Posted by ripper6 View Post
    Can you say "Stalin", can you say "Mao Tse Tung", can you say "Pol Pot", can say "Kim Il Jung", or "Fidel Castro", etc..?

    Atheists hate themselves and other atheists. Atheists have twice the suicide rate of non-atheists, they are twice as likely to not marry and twice as likely to be childless. Check out their mental health statistics too.
    Can you say KKK, IRA, abortion clinic bombers, the Crusades, witch trials (not just the ones in Salem), Inquisistion, Conquistadors just to name some atrocities commited in the name of Jesus. Let's add Al Qaida, Taliban, Hamas, Hesbola, to the list of religious killers.
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    Originally Posted by ripper6 View Post
    Can you say "Stalin", can you say "Mao Tse Tung", can you say "Pol Pot", can say "Kim Il Jung", or "Fidel Castro", etc..?

    Atheists hate themselves and other atheists. Atheists have twice the suicide rate of non-atheists, they are twice as likely to not marry and twice as likely to be childless. Check out their mental health statistics too.
    Can you say "Osama Bin Laden"? Can you say "King Herod"?

    Religious people hate themselves and other religious people. Religious people have far more bastard children and miserable marriages than atheists. Check out their relative lack of presence in the scientific community and the most livable countries in the world too.






































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    Basically, violent people exist in this world with many differing viewpoints. Some of them are atheist and others religious. Haters on both sides use these violent people to attack the other side.
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    Originally Posted by hassaanu View Post
    I see this everyday too, everyone associates atheism with a negative connotation. Like, atheists dont have morals or something and they are the devil or some ****.
    But, you have to understand that we Christians are taught to believe that ""The person who isn't with me is against me, and the person who isn't gathering with me is scattering." Matthew 12:30

    So, yeah, we basically see you atheists as siding with the Satan. No belief in God, belief only in man, worshipping science, all those things don't make sense to us.
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    Yeah, doesn't surprise me. My last girlfriends parents hated the fact I was atheist, but I guess I can kinda understand that in a way because they were hardcore religious. They even had pictures of Jesus on their walls. So I was like the anti-Christ railing their angel daughter. However, I always got stupid speeches like "We are praying for you" "God has a plan for you", it got old quickly. And frankly, it offended me to no end.
    Lol I agree completely. Whenever someone finds out I'm an atheist they say something like "its ok, I can bring u 2 deh church and u cn b savd!!!" I just facepalm and tell them to I don't want to be ****ing retarded.
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    Originally Posted by hassaanu View Post
    http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistb...heitsHated.htm

    I see this everyday too, everyone associates atheism with a negative connotation. Like, atheists dont have morals or something and they are the devil or some ****.
    I think people fear what holds someone back who doesn't believe in any higher being, they relate that to having no morals or consciousness....because to them those two things come from a higher being.
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    Originally Posted by Gordon Bombay View Post
    As far as I know, none of them killed in the name of atheism.

    The funny thing is religious people tend to think that all atheists follow some sort of doctrine, and live under a different sets of norms than everyone else. This couldn't be further from the truth. The only connecting factor of atheists is the lack of a belief in deities.
    In fact these historical "atheist" dictators demanded that they be worshipped by the citizens they ruled over. They commanded their people to both love and fear them, or else face punishment of death.

    Commanded to be both loved and feared? Sounds like the god in the Bible and the Qur'an.

    North Koreans are required to worship Kim Jung Il as a diety.

    This is the last form of behavior that could be considered atheistic.
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    Originally Posted by ripper6 View Post
    Can you say "Stalin", can you say "Mao Tse Tung", can you say "Pol Pot", can say "Kim Il Jung", or "Fidel Castro", etc..?

    Atheists hate themselves and other atheists. Atheists have twice the suicide rate of non-atheists, they are twice as likely to not marry and twice as likely to be childless. Check out their mental health statistics too.
    But they're less likely to be in prison and less likely to divorce.

    Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience.
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

    Not unexpected as a result. Note that atheists, being a moderate proportion of the USA population (about 8-16%) are disproportionately less in the prison populations (0.21%).
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    Originally Posted by revkins View Post
    In fact these historical "atheist" dictators demanded that they be worshipped by the citizens they ruled over. They commanded their people to both love and fear them, or else face punishment of death.

    Commanded to be both loved and feared? Sounds like the god in the Bible and the Qur'an.

    North Koreans are required to worship Kim Jung Il as a diety.

    This is the last form of behavior that could be considered atheistic.
    Yes, unfortunately atheism gets tied to communism for this very reason. Communist leaders tend to outlaw religion because they want their subjects to worship their rulers.
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    So Hitler killed the Jews bacuse of what?
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    The thing with atheists is that they are hating on other religions, hence people gat pissed off at them. While a Jew might respect a Christian's beliefs, an atheist doesn't, hence the counter hate.
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    thats crazy
    i didnt think that it was a big deal honestly i hadnt heard much about atheists til about a year ago
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    So Hitler killed the Jews bacuse of what?
    Some form of anti-semitism I believe.
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    Originally Posted by TulsaCoker View Post
    So Hitler killed the Jews bacuse of what?
    Probably a combination of things. It very likely had something to do with the events at the Danzig Corridor before Hitler invaded Poland. I've also heard theories that he was in collaboration with the Catholic Church, but I'm not sure if that has been verified by any official source.
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    Originally Posted by DaPlasurNDaPain View Post
    The thing with atheists is that they are hating on other religions, hence people gat pissed off at them. While a Jew might respect a Christian's beliefs, an atheist doesn't, hence the counter hate.
    Atheists, with the exception of AKR, don't hate other religions. Atheists typically are of the live and let live mindset. You can worship whatever you want, just don't try to force me to worship it with you.

    Chistians have an insane persecution complex.
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    Originally Posted by Nagalfar View Post
    Not to mention, it has been atheists who have been the record setters for slaughtering people.. they have made Hitler look like a rank amateur, both in brutality and numbers..
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    Originally Posted by Nagalfar View Post
    Not to mention, it has been atheists who have been the record setters for slaughtering people.. they have made Hitler look like a rank amateur, both in brutality and numbers..
    the only entire nation or group that is completly secular would be Singapore, Mao tried to pwn Taoism/Buddhism, and Russia was under Orthodox rule during the soviet years
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    Probably a combination of things. It very likely had something to do with the events at the Danzig Corridor before Hitler invaded Poland. I've also heard theories that he was in collaboration with the Catholic Church, but I'm not sure if that has been verified by any official source.
    I would not think so since many Catholic priests were killed by Hitler.
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    Originally Posted by TulsaCoker View Post
    I would not think so since many Catholic priests were killed by Hitler.
    That has no bearing on whether or not he had connections with the Catholic Church along the way.

    As far as I know it was a complicated relationship.
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