2009 cobalt ss = amazing for the money.

[Phosphate bond]

Are you aware that each drivetrain class has it's own powerloss ratios due to their design?

FWD is typically 10-15%.
RWD is typically 18-25%.
AWD is typically 20-30%.

Some of that may also be due to the strength/size of the gears needed to handle the torque of the engine.

For example, usually rear wheel drive cars have larger engines so there may be extra inertia/frictional losses secondary to the fact the gears needed to handle the extra power need to be larger, etc

[Deez Nutz]

Whenever I see a performance version of a economy sedan on the road, I laugh and think its some kid from the misc. I know people that talk about how cool a STi is, or a Cobalt SS, but they never get one. Most people that buy cars looking for thrills in that price range go buy used s2000's and z4's. No matter how good it is, I couldn't spend my money on that kind of car, a sedan sports car. no one over over 25 thinks your cool.

[Muscle69camaro]

the cobalt ss has great numbers in terms of performance but i'd rather have a japanese make or european make if it was my daily driver

why u hatin' on America brah? and dont give me the "oh quality this.... reliablility that" bullsh!t.

every car can last if its owner TAKES CARE OF IT. hell my dad just sold his 1992 chevy van with 353,000 miles on it. and not one problem with it.

[DeterminedToWin]

I'll never buy a fwd car, ever.

[FormulaSP]

why u hatin' on America brah? and dont give me the "oh quality this.... reliablility that" bullsh!t.

every car can last if its owner TAKES CARE OF IT. hell my dad just sold his 1992 chevy van with 353,000 miles on it. and not one problem with it.

you're telling me not to give you the "reliabilty bullsh!t" and yet you give me specific examples of your dad. don't give irrelevant ideas please.

[bobmuscle]

awesome performance from the car, just not very fond of the styling however

[FormulaSP]

I'll never buy a fwd car, ever.

you rich?

[dochall22]

Get a mazdaspeed3 and go faster.

Or get a used C5 vette and go even faster

[Muscle69camaro]

Oh look here - another cliche American hater . There is nothing wrong with American engineered vehicles - get your **** straight before you talk ****.

Yet another failed car thread.

^this. for all you morons who dont even change your own oil yet spit remarks nonstop about american quality, go fuk urselves and live in another country if you think that the citizens of this country are so lazy and dont produce good product.

oh and I hate to tell you, but japan doesnt even make their own cars anymore, theyre made in singapore, or taiwan, or the phillipines. wherever they can make the most profit. so STFU about japanese "quality"

[DeterminedToWin]

you rich?

Not right now, but i'll be making a good amount as long as i stay on track with school.

[PaLftr]

Unfortunately, any car thread in the misc is destined for failure.

Great car for the money, although I wouldn't buy one.

[the_miker17]

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oh and I hate to tell you, but japan doesnt even make their own cars anymore, theyre made in singapore, or taiwan, or the phillipines. wherever they can make the most profit. so STFU about japanese "quality"

well toyota has a lot of plants in canada and saem with honda so....

[mike0093_OLDONE]

seriously... 21k for a car with 260 hp that gets 30 mpg highway, bolstered seats, AND gets a nurburgring lap time almost as fast as the new lancer evo x... Top speed of 155. im finna get one tomorrow in black.

LOL @ nerds thinking they're gay because they arent an 8 liter V8 POS.

It's still a Chevy.

And you're still Emo

[ViceStan]

Ballin' on a budget.

[wimpking]

Get a mazdaspeed3 and go faster.

Or get a used C5 vette and go even faster

Not sure that those options will beat a Cobalt SS on the track. Definately not the mazda, wtf? That's the whole point of the thread son.

[stev310]

brah I got my 2006 GTO V8 6.0L 400HP beast for under 20k with under 15k miles. It would eat that POS cobalt alive. Also there is an 03 Z06 at the dealership next to my house for 21k with 22k miles, I would rather have the z06 lulz....

[-SLASH-]

It's still a Chevy.

And...your point would be what?

How about we try to have a civilized discussion? You know, where both parties must use some sense of intelligence. Next to impossible for the MISC I know, but let's try for once.

[paranoidxe]

Get a mazdaspeed3 and go faster.

Or get a used C5 vette and go even faster

Yeah because a Vette and a MS3 are in the same price range as a 21K car.

Why is it that when anyone brings up a car that people automatically start naming all these cars that are completely in a different league, different price range that are better? [I know I know, this is the Misc we are all Ballin CEOs that can afford any car]

Car threads always end up going off topic and always turn into a pissing contest.

[stev310]

Yeah because a Vette and a MS3 are in the same price range as a 21K car.

Why is it that when anyone brings up a car that people automatically start naming all these cars that are completely in a different league, different price range that are better? [I know I know, this is the Misc we are all Ballin CEOs that can afford any car]

Car threads always end up going off topic and always turn into a pissing contest.

Like I said there is a used C5 Z06 next to my house selling for 21k with under 30k miles. A regular C5 can be had for under 20k right now. These cars are not out of reach, craigslist is your friend no sales tax.

[bobmuscle]

It's still a Chevy.

so is this...



point?

[jmonty]

i'm torn about the cobalt. it's cool that a US company is competing with the ricers and beating them. that type of car just isn't for me, not that i could afford one atm anyways. if i could and i wanted a car that size i'd probably go with a wrx, but if i wanted power i'd go with an american and rear wheel drive. a built, s/c'd v6 mustang would be great for the lulz as a sleeper.

[jmonty]

brah I got my 2006 GTO V8 6.0L 400HP beast for under 20k with under 15k miles. It would eat that POS cobalt alive. Also there is an 03 Z06 at the dealership next to my house for 21k with 22k miles, I would rather have the z06 lulz....

that would be badass.

[AreaCode201]

[HKSROCKS]

the new cobalt ss has a launch control mofo!!!!
the rr has 240 hp like the s2k and is slightly faster also.

[I MaFiA I]

RWD = Drifting

strong fail

[I MaFiA I]

Not sure a c5 vette will beat a Cobalt SS on the track.

you high brah?

[Astaldoath]

id kill for a new cobalt, I love the 260 hp and 30 mpg. Sweet combo. Plenty of car for me. Considering my 07 grand prix had 260 hp and go 15 mpg lulz

[BlackNova]

would rather have this





or this

[H2whoa]

seriously... 21k for a car with 260 hp that gets 30 mpg highway, bolstered seats, AND gets a nurburgring lap time almost as fast as the new lancer evo x... Top speed of 155. im finna get one tomorrow in black.

LOL @ nerds thinking they're gay because they arent an 8 liter V8 POS.

damn i don't know of many 8 litre v8's....

[PaLftr]

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