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    Powerlifters and Vertical Jumps

    I play football and have been reading a lot about speed and vertical jump. A lot of people say if you can squat a lot (powerlifters) you will usually have a high vertical jump and will be fast.

    I was wondering if you guys could tell me your vertical jump, 40 yard dash time, ect. because I want to see if it's true that if you squat a lot you can jump high. If you don't have your vertical jump or whatever, tell me if you think you can jump higher from all of the heavy lifting you are doing.

    Thanks for all the help in advance.
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    sorry, i cant help....way too fat to jump high lol. talk to Kiknskrem
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    A big squat doesn't mean you will jump high.

    Having a high strength to weight ratio is a good correlate to explosive power though.
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    Originally Posted by mosley1990 View Post
    sorry, i cant help....way too fat to jump high lol. talk to Kiknskrem
    Lol.
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    LOl, my best squat in training was 705 and my jump? let's just say you can barely slip a piece of bread under my feet while I'm jumping IMHO, it depends on how atheletic you are while and/or before traininig
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    -Relative strength
    -Rate of force development

    Work on those two things.
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    there are essentially 2 main ways to increase your vert
    vertical programs, like air alert that mainly focus on getting your body used to jumping, and maximising the strength you have
    or doing things like squatting to increase strength (preferably increasing strength moreso than you increase your bodyweight)

    either working on technique and PRACTICING jumpgin, or getting much stronger could help individually, but, improving both of them, i find to be fail safe... something like a westside method, with a max effort squat, then on DE day doing various jumpoing movements....i'm 6'5... when i weighed 210 lbs i could barely dunk... i now weigh about 265...and some of my weight gain was fat (maybe 20 lbs) and i don't practice jumping much as it hurts my knees...and still jump slightly higher than i did when i was about 210... if i were to really practice JUMPING it'd do wonders for my vertical and i could jump much higher than i did
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    Power = Work / Time
    Power = Force x Velocity

    Power being the explosive strength used to jump high, work and force being the strength used to push yourself into the air, time being the rate, and velocity the speed.

    If you want to increase your verticle jump, you can increase your strength by squatting, deadlifting, olympic lifts, etc., or you can increase the speed of the rate of force development by plyometric drills and exercises. You can do both but if it's too hard on yourself, work on one aspect at a time.
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    Originally Posted by PowerTricks View Post
    Power = Work / Time
    Power = Force x Velocity

    Power being the explosive strength used to jump high, work and force being the strength used to push yourself into the air, time being the rate, and velocity the speed.

    If you want to increase your verticle jump, you can increase your strength by squatting, deadlifting, olympic lifts, etc., or you can increase the speed of the rate of force development by plyometric drills and exercises. You can do both but if it's too hard on yourself, work on one aspect at a time.
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    Originally Posted by HardHitter22 View Post
    Thanks, I would rep you but I have given too much out today.

    i repp'd him for ya...

    i couldnt have said it better myself...

    i do plyo's twice a month... and i will dunk a basketball by 10/2009... (i can get rim now and dunk on a 9'6" hoop)
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    Well when I played football in high school I squatted 405 sophmore year and a pretty good jump (nothing spectacular) but I did have fast feet and great speed for my size. I wouldn't say high squat equals high vertical but in my opinion it does help with explosiveness, legwork, hip drive etc..

    on the other hand when just starting out at a 225 squat my speed was average and my vert was just average as well I guess. From my experience it has helped but then again we're all different so don't think it's an absolute truth or something.

    One more thing, powercleans helped me A LOT when it came to explosiveness, just be careful since they can really mess you up if done wrong.
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    Originally Posted by corozco View Post
    Well when I played football in high school I squatted 405 sophmore year and a pretty good jump (nothing spectacular) but I did have fast feet and great speed for my size. I wouldn't say high squat equals high vertical but in my opinion it does help with explosiveness, legwork, hip drive etc..

    on the other hand when just starting out at a 225 squat my speed was average and my vert was just average as well I guess. From my experience it has helped but then again we're all different so don't think it's an absolute truth or something.

    One more thing, powercleans helped me A LOT when it came to explosiveness, just be careful since they can really mess you up if done wrong.
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    Originally Posted by HardHitter22 View Post
    Thanks, I would rep you but I have given too much out today.
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    i repp'd him for ya...

    i couldnt have said it better myself...

    i do plyo's twice a month... and i will dunk a basketball by 10/2009... (i can get rim now and dunk on a 9'6" hoop)
    Nice progress! Also, an excellent book and resource for the vertical jump height and the relationship between strength training and plyometric drilling can be found here: http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/verticaljump.html. As soon as my back heals I will be ordering a second copy so I can get back to working on my vertical jump.
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    I think you had powerlifters confused with Olympic Lifters. They have the highest vert and are very fast over a short distance. http://www.menshealth.com/cda/articl...eac____&page=1
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    I think if some powerlifters with good squats dropped down to say 10% bodyfat they would have good verts. Yet a strong squat does not = a high vert. You can get a high vert faster just doing a jumping program with boxes and other ploymetric exercises ext. Squat will help you get good vert though.
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    i've made it up to a 51" box jump but I'm slow as ****
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    OP, as a college athlete and a former D-1 prospect for football the best thing you can do for your vert is....jump. Do plyo's/play basketball, even on your jump shots just try to explode and jump as high as possible (unless you're a set shooter). When I was serious about basketball (basketball was not my best sport) I would play for around 4-5 hours today just practicing my jump shot/lay-ups/rebounds. Usually my vert would go up a huge amount in that time. Dr. J and many other basketball players attribute their verticals to playing basketball and jumping from a young age. Squats will help quite a bit but they're not the main factor imo.
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    Originally Posted by Diana Meeque View Post
    i've made it up to a 51" box jump but I'm slow as ****
    it's fun walkin outta the lockerroom with a tape measure....right? (lulz)
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    Originally Posted by vegasdsm View Post
    it's fun walkin outta the lockerroom with a tape measure....right? (lulz)
    huh? i didn't do it at 24 hour fitness lol
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    Originally Posted by Diana Meeque View Post
    huh? i didn't do it at 24 hour fitness lol
    id lol if you could dunk
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    Originally Posted by sickonstorm View Post
    id lol if you could dunk
    i cant, my hands are too small and i can't get that high. i might be able to touch rim though
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    if i had your hops and some game id be UNSTOPPABLE. i could grab rim with my 185 squat, and i dont think i could dunk naao with my 260 squat any ideas why?
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