were those lifts locked out? Not bashing just find it difficult to tell.
It was hard to tell. Second one looked a lot closer than the first one did, but both times the spotter waited for a little while longer at the end like he was waiting to see a lockout as well.
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i have a hard time considering any lift a lockout when the spotter has to lift it up to get it on the rack. this guy is by far not the only guy to do it this way. i'm seeing this more and more. i didn't see a lockout on either of those lifts. its not that his arms aren't long wnough either. i could understand that. his arms are CLEARLY not locked out. he extended his arms as much as his strength allowed and then held it. that's not a lockout.
His arms are locked out in both lifts. His arms lock the same way whether it's 135 or 800 on the bar. The size of Vin's arms make it look as if his elbows are bent but I assure you, that is his lockout and those lifts are both 3 whites.
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Weight classes competed in: 181, 198, 220
Best Meet lifts: S:575 B:520 D:510 Total:1605 (220)
Best lifts: S:635 B:560 D:510
Best Raw: S:505 B:355 D:510
Equipment: Inzer RageX. Metal Pro Squat Suit. Metal Ace Briefs
God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 1Cor 1:27
just sayin that his arms are not staight. if his arms look like that all the time, he's got some serious ortho issues. it looks like a bowlegged guy, know what i mean? his elbows are bent. you can call that a lockout if you want, but it looks pathetic to me. some guys look like this and some don't. i don't think its any coincidence that its usually the guys who are benching REAL heavy, usually shirted, whose "lockout" looks like this.
i can't even unrack that weight, much less push it off my chest. the guy is obviously hideously strong, but by competing, AND posting vids online, he IS opening himself up to crticism. not trying to be disrespectful or anything.
Last edited by mangiventofly; 12-08-2008 at 02:23 PM.
Is it just me or does he have a smaller rib cage from what I can see. Or is that just an illusion given by his belly? Awesome press and awesome strength.
I push things over my head.
I always rep back :), rep and you shall receive. 200+
just sayin that his arms are not staight. if his arms look like that all the time, he's got some serious ortho issues. it looks like a bowlegged guy, know what i mean? his elbows are bent. you can call that a lockout if you want, but it looks pathetic to me. some guys look like this and some don't. i don't think its any coincidence that its usually the guys who are benching REAL heavy, usually shirted, whose "lockout" looks like this.
i can't even unrack that weight, much less push it off my chest. the guy is obviously hideously strong, but by competing, AND posting vids online, he IS opening himself up to crticism. not trying to be disrespectful or anything.
His arms look like that all the time. If he doesn't lock out a lift, he hears about it from his training partners. Those were both locked out.
Originally Posted by Shanecutler51
Is it just me or does he have a smaller rib cage from what I can see. Or is that just an illusion given by his belly? Awesome press and awesome strength.
He's 5'8" with a massive upper body. I would imagine that makes his rib cage look small.
Originally Posted by db2000
he gets over 200lbs out of his, how are you going with yours?
Vin has give JT advice on using the shirt. I feel like JT doesn't want to give himself over to geared lifting 100% (maybe he's a raw lifter at heart, that's certainly how he lifts.) No disrespect to JT Hall, just how I see it.
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Weight classes competed in: 181, 198, 220
Best Meet lifts: S:575 B:520 D:510 Total:1605 (220)
Best lifts: S:635 B:560 D:510
Best Raw: S:505 B:355 D:510
Equipment: Inzer RageX. Metal Pro Squat Suit. Metal Ace Briefs
God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 1Cor 1:27
just sayin that his arms are not staight. if his arms look like that all the time, he's got some serious ortho issues. it looks like a bowlegged guy, know what i mean? his elbows are bent. you can call that a lockout if you want, but it looks pathetic to me. some guys look like this and some don't. i don't think its any coincidence that its usually the guys who are benching REAL heavy, usually shirted, whose "lockout" looks like this.
i can't even unrack that weight, much less push it off my chest. the guy is obviously hideously strong, but by competing, AND posting vids online, he IS opening himself up to crticism. not trying to be disrespectful or anything.
Stout guys with short arms do typically need help racking a weight back even after a full lockout. You'll see it all the time in meets, and sometimes I'm not even sure if a weight is being fully locked out or not -- but it's up to the judges to decide that, ultimately.
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