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Old 12-06-2008, 06:27 PM   #1
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question about caloric excess after solely strength gains

If you make strength gains without size gains, due to lack of calories, do you miss out on the hypertrophy associated with those gains? By this I mean, if you move your squat up 50 lbs., 35 lbs. on bench, 95 lbs. on the deadlift, and 30 lbs. on the row, yet you don't eat enough, you won't gain any weight, and very little, if any, size. Correct?

Now, if you do all that, then after making those jumps, you begin to eat above your maintenance level (for arguements sake, you knew EXACTLY what it was, and ate about 800 calories in excess) - what would happen? One who ate all along with those gains would have added some size from it, no doubt. So what of the guy who comes in and eats LATER? Did his body just skimp out, and will he miss out on the size gains, or will he explode in a shorter amount of time with some new mass to accompany his much added strength?
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:43 PM   #2
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Apparently there are only 600 stored calories in one pound of additional muscle (due to the fact that muscle is mostly water)

So the requirements for calories over maintenance are lower than most people think. However, this is not to say Energy expenditure itself will be low.

I would think if you wanted to gain muscle that eating higher and higher calories while pushing yourself harder and harder in the gym is the ticket. Hopefully diet doesn't become the bottleneck for these efforts (ie, a persons diet cannot be deficient for their goals)

I'm not a trainer and I am sure this will spur controversy but I am sure there may be a point where twice a day training will cross your mind (If you feel you have truly maxed out once a day). As long as this occurs progressively and calories are sufficient to cover the Energy expenditure "Over training" shouldn't occur.

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Old 12-06-2008, 08:53 PM   #3
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If you make strength gains without size gains, due to lack of calories, do you miss out on the hypertrophy associated with those gains? By this I mean, if you move your squat up 50 lbs., 35 lbs. on bench, 95 lbs. on the deadlift, and 30 lbs. on the row, yet you don't eat enough, you won't gain any weight, and very little, if any, size. Correct?
Some of this may be training related also.

For example training for muscle size and training for muscle strength are akin to comparing the Bodybuilder to the Power lifter.

But I would ask someone who specializes in training for the real answer on this one. (I don't spend much time looking at how different types of muscles fibers respond to intensity vs volume for example)
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