Do the CoC grippers help with deadlift grip strength?

[Anaar]

The CoC grippers work crushing strength but how much carryover does that have with isometric grip strength? I'm specifically concerned with increasing my double overhand grip strength. Right now I can only deadlift 315lb with DOH grip but I'd like to be able to do about 500.

Also which one should I buy? The number 1 or 1.5?

[SuicideGripMe]

I dont think many powerlifters would be using them if they didnt have some kind of carryover...Im actually ordering my first CoC's this week.

[the_pupil]

The CoC grippers work crushing strength but how much carryover does that have with isometric grip strength? I'm specifically concerned with increasing my double overhand grip strength. Right now I can only deadlift 315lb with DOH grip but I'd like to be able to do about 500.

Also which one should I buy? The number 1 or 1.5?

If you can DOH 315, then I would go with the 1.5

I do not think they have much carryover but I still use them.

[freeride88]

Common opinion seems to be that they don't help with deadlift strength very much. Try some holds for time, when you can hold the weight DO for ten full seconds, up the weight.

And it seems that most folks buy at least two grippers to start. If you can close the #1 for several, you might try a #1 and a 1.5, but if you're not sure, you'd better start lower than that.

[Lager1]

I think they definitely help a lot.

[Hatmanii]

They are different types of grip strength and they are not directly related. However, to have a well rounded grip, various methods of training should be used.

Personally, I can DO 315 lbs and i have trouble closing the #1 for reps. I'd go with a Trainer and #1 to start with. One to rep with, the heavier to do negatives and work into.

It takes a special person to be a grip afficianado and really get into grippers, but I wish you luck!

[CHS55]

I can deadlift 400 pounds any day, but I'm lucky if I can close the 1.5 CoC gripper, the 1 is the only one I can rep, and even then, it's only for around 3-5 reps.

[sickonstorm]

The CoC grippers work crushing strength but how much carryover does that have with isometric grip strength? I'm specifically concerned with increasing my double overhand grip strength. Right now I can only deadlift 315lb with DOH grip but I'd like to be able to do about 500.

Also which one should I buy? The number 1 or 1.5?

lol awesome goals man i have the same goals. ican do 415 dead and 435 rack pull with chalk and close the numb 2. i could get the 2.5 to parallels.

[IronAbrams]

If you can DOH 315, then I would go with the 1.5

I do not think they have much carryover but I still use them.

I'm pulling 405+ and still can't clinch the #1.

There's not much of a correlation between the two.

[Mr Beer]

I found them helpful.

[75kg]

There isn't a ton of carryover from grippers to deadlift holding strength, but stronger hands are stronger hands. Using grippers will help your DO grip and several other feats by default, just not much. The best ones to get for almost everyone would be the Trainer, #1 and #2. You have your entire range covered almost garaunteed(unless you either have an injury or are a freak). Most guys with weight training experience of any kind will be able to shut the Trainer and most likely rep it while the #1 may be a struggle or harder. The #2 the average gym goer can typically take to parallel first time trying it.

As for specifically training to increase your DO grip, keep doing DO grip deadlifts. Go for heavy weight and reps occasionally. Something that blew my DO holding strength through the roof was weighted hangs from a pullup bar. I got to doing one arm hangs with an added 50lbs for time and the next time I deadlifted I pulled 90% of my max DO. I worked with the weighted hangs for a month or two to get that far and I'm sure that more training would be beneficial.

[mangiventofly]

static holds are definitely better for grip strength. do like 75kg said or just put some weight on a bar, pick it up and just stand there holding it til you can't hold it anymore. heavy shrugs rocked my grip strength. for grip strength, just don't use straps, EVER.

[ShutUpAndSquat]

I was better with CoC grippers back when I deadlifted 315 when I was a 15 year old runt, compared to me 5 years later and 50 pounds heavier. If you're looking for training that's specifcally going to carry over for holding grip, just stick to static holds.

[Deadliftking]

just bought a 1.5 to try.

[Shanecutler51]

The CoC grippers work crushing strength but how much carryover does that have with isometric grip strength? I'm specifically concerned with increasing my double overhand grip strength. Right now I can only deadlift 315lb with DOH grip but I'd like to be able to do about 500.

Also which one should I buy? The number 1 or 1.5?

I never trained grip specifically besides grippers and at my first comp I held the farmers walk implements the longest. So I would say they do have quite a bit of carry over. I'd get the 1.5.

[sickonstorm]

just bought a 1.5 to try.

id say use double overhand grip and wrap towels around the bar on all sets

[SFGiantsPBA]

The CoC grippers work crushing strength but how much carryover does that have with isometric grip strength? I'm specifically concerned with increasing my double overhand grip strength. Right now I can only deadlift 315lb with DOH grip but I'd like to be able to do about 500.

Also which one should I buy? The number 1 or 1.5?

Just do some Farmer Walks as they are hands down the best for grip strength!

[db2000]

I think they do help....a lot.


As 75kg said "a strong hand is a strong hand".

But they are just another tool in the shed.

DO, holding on for time, chinup bar hangs, 2" axle all helped me.

Getting past the 600lb on the deadlift did require some extra help...and COCs were a part of it.

[vikingsrule92]

Thickbar if you want to increase static grip strength. I can pull 323 DO on the axle, and 345 DO on a regular bar (my back gives out before grip). Before serious thickbar work my best DO was about 245, you do the math

[sickonstorm]

Thickbar if you want to increase static grip strength. I can pull 323 DO on the axle, and 345 DO on a regular bar (my back gives out before grip). Before serious thickbar work my best DO was about 245, you do the math

75kgs Said thickbar dont hellp tha much.

[vikingsrule92]

275kgs aid thickbar dont hellp tha much.

Ummm, not sure if this is english but I don't understand it. Are you saying you DL too much for thickbar to help you?

[endymion88]

i'm deadlifting in the 600s and i don't think i would be if i didn't train on grippers. they definently have some carryover. are they your best option to get your deadlift grip up, no. do they help? yes.

[Doenitz79]

Farmer's walks WITH TURNS are a killer for dynamic grip strength.

If your dynamic grip strength goes up,your static grip strength skyrockets as well.

[ElMariachi]

Farmer's walks WITH TURNS are a killer for dynamic grip strength.

If your dynamic grip strength goes up,your static grip strength skyrockets as well.

Yep, I love me some heavy-ass dumbbell Farmer's walks. Works wonders for grip strength in almost any situation.

[Anaar]

Hm, I guess repping them or continuously crushing them may not help for holding strength, but what about crushing the gripper and then holding it in that position until failure?

That seems to me somewhat applicable to what one does in pull ups and deadlifts.

[pHEnomIC]

They help. I went form having trouble at 405 to having no trouble with 475.

I couldnt close the #1 when i got it. Now i can almost close the #2 and do the #1 15 or so times.

[Anaar]

They help. I went form having trouble at 405 to having no trouble with 475.

Did you rep the grippers or did you squeeze them and hold them crushed until failure?

[Lager1]

Did you rep the grippers or did you squeeze them and hold them crushed until failure?

I do this all the time, it helps a lot, I can feel my hands getting stronger.

I first got a #1 and a #2 last Christmas...I could close the #1 fairly easily but it took about two weeks for me to be able to close the #2.

Now I can close the #2 12 times with each hand, and the #1 about 45. I'm pretty close to the #3 with my right hand.

[pHEnomIC]

Did you rep the grippers or did you squeeze them and hold them crushed until failure?

Little bit of both, focus on repping tho

[Anaar]

I do this all the time, it helps a lot, I can feel my hands getting stronger.

I first got a #1 and a #2 last Christmas...I could close the #1 fairly easily but it took about two weeks for me to be able to close the #2.

Now I can close the #2 12 times with each hand, and the #1 about 45. I'm pretty close to the #3 with my right hand.

Nice.

How much can you deadlift with a double prone grip now?

And how much improvement in that grip did you see?