Retarded Sleep

-=_Blaze_=- · 12-05-2008, 01:58 AM

Im pissed of this morning. every night for the past few weeks I havent been able to sleep more than four or five hours. I wake up feeling fresh, and sometimes force myself to sleep another hour but usually i cant even get back to sleep and have to get up. wtf is up with that? Im even off caffeine and it doesnt make a difference, its like my brain only needs 5 hours sleep but i know i need more.

I was thinking of taking ZMA since it promotes good sleep. anything else that could help this?

musclepeak88 · 12-05-2008, 02:43 AM

I only get 6 hours a night and im done and feel fresh. I also like to get a little less so i can get more food in. You could try velrian root.

iam fuzz · 12-05-2008, 02:45 AM

just cause you only sleep 4 hours doesnt mean you didnt get a good nights sleep.

it may just mean that you had a great long and undisturbed REM cycle

-fuzz

-=_Blaze_=- · 12-05-2008, 03:04 AM

yeah i think i have some velarian root, smells like **** though but i might try it again. so six hours sleep is enough?

sometimes i go to sleep aound 10pm expecting to wake up at 6 or 7 in the mornin but get up at 2-3am, thats whats annoyin about it

Ive noticed since i started takin in 3,500> cals a day i cant sleep for ****

ah_bon · 12-05-2008, 03:07 AM

I made a thread like this a while back and everyone said you got enough sleep if you wake up feeling refreshed. Some people need different amounts of sleep so it depends on the person.
Just cause it's kind of on topic; A few days ago I heard about a study that showed people who only get 5-6 hours of sleep a night tend to live a few years longer than people who get 8 or more.

-=_Blaze_=- · 12-05-2008, 03:22 AM

really? that sounds good

I guess it isnt such a bad thing then

xx0725 · 12-05-2008, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by -=_Blaze_=-

yeah i think i have some velarian root, smells like **** though but i might try it again. so six hours sleep is enough?

sometimes i go to sleep aound 10pm expecting to wake up at 6 or 7 in the mornin but get up at 2-3am, thats whats annoyin about it

Ive noticed since i started takin in 3,500> cals a day i cant sleep for ****

Valerian worked at first for me, but then it started making my heart race. I'd avoid that stuff if I were you.

The best I've found is plain melatonin. You can buy it cheap just about anywhere.

moonybaby · 12-05-2008, 06:15 AM

**** dood thats awesome so u can get the food in.

i sleep TOO much. cud go 12 hours easy lol

krazyfk · 12-05-2008, 06:19 AM

I aways wake up at about 5:00 am needing to take a piss.

ruins my sleep brah

yankeekd25 · 12-05-2008, 06:28 AM

For me, I could go to sleep at 3 am, and still wake up at 7 or 8, and I won't feel that tired. I'm a really light sleeper too. It pisses me off. This morning I woke up at 6:15 (don't even have school today) because I heard some noise outside my house. I tried hard to fall back to sleep, but once I'm up, that's impossible for me.

ice_man89 · 12-05-2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by -=_Blaze_=-

Im pissed of this morning. every night for the past few weeks I havent been able to sleep more than four or five hours. I wake up feeling fresh, and sometimes force myself to sleep another hour but usually i cant even get back to sleep and have to get up. wtf is up with that? Im even off caffeine and it doesnt make a difference, its like my brain only needs 5 hours sleep but i know i need more.

I was thinking of taking ZMA since it promotes good sleep. anything else that could help this?

do you exercise late at night 8oclock and after, because this can cause insomnia

PumpinPaddy · 12-05-2008, 07:15 AM

did anyone else think the title was retarded sheep?

JohnB13 · 12-05-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by krazyfk

I aways wake up at about 5:00 am needing to take a piss.

ruins my sleep brah

it sucks, i drink casein before bed then wake up at 5 or 6 and i have to piss, so i have to walk all the way down the hall at my dorm, piss and walk back. Then im just like **** i have class at 8, i can only sleep for another hour : ( and i get all pissed off lol

AuroraPsycho28 · 12-05-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xx0725

Valerian worked at first for me, but then it started making my heart race. I'd avoid that stuff if I were you.

The best I've found is plain melatonin. You can buy it cheap just about anywhere.

This.

83mustanggt · 12-05-2008, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AuroraPsycho28

This.

agreed dude take melatonin **** worked great for me

-=_Blaze_=- · 12-05-2008, 03:33 PM

any side effects of melatonin?

i just slept two hours n woke up again. gonna get some cals in and go back

Weirdbeard · 12-05-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -=_Blaze_=-

any side effects of melatonin?

i just slept two hours n woke up again. gonna get some cals in and go back

Not that I'm aware of, but I find a larger dose of it will leave me lethargic through the entire day sometimes.

BaGeL23 · 12-05-2008, 03:56 PM

I've been taking ZMA for a few months now, and althought I couldn't compare it to melatonin or anything like that, I know it always gives me a great nights sleep. If I can give myself 7+ hours to sleep, I always wake up feeling amazing.

xx0725 · 12-05-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by -=_Blaze_=-

any side effects of melatonin?

No side effects. Just take it about 45 min. before you plan to hit the sack.

And yeah -- higher doses can leave you drowsy into the next day, so just stick with the 1mg pills. That's all you need.

clickclickboom · 12-05-2008, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by iam fuzz

just cause you only sleep 4 hours doesnt mean you didnt get a good nights sleep.

it may just mean that you had a great long and undisturbed REM cycle

-fuzz

It's only possible to have a 3 hour REM if total sleep is 4 hours

so I doubt that and btw I have a phD in broscience

to OP i think people just need different amounts of sleep

you could try melatonin its OTC.

are you really stressed?

edit melatonin already suggested, nvm

L-Guidomine · 12-05-2008, 05:14 PM

blaze some reefa.

Billster · 12-05-2008, 05:18 PM

continuous heavy lifting will lead to bad sleep quality, hence why people deload their workout every 4 to 8 weeks

baddog671 · 12-05-2008, 05:18 PM

For me, it doesn't matter how much sleep I get. If I get 5, I wake up and feel like ****. If I get 10, I wake up and feel like ****. But, I average between 5-6 hours nearly every night.

I personally think your bed if a huge determining factor of quality of sleep. Im not advocationing those special bed things you see on tv, that's crap. But, my bed sucks and I always wake up tired. My gf's bed kicks butt, and I get much better sleep.

Also, I saw a study once that said the only thing you should do in your bedroom is sleep and have sex. This "programs" the brain into going straight to sleep when you go to bed. I believe this 100% becuase at my house I am in my room 90% of the time when I'm home. I'm on the computer, watching tv, attempting homework, whatever, all in my room. So, it's more difficult to sleep. On the otherhand, at my gf's, all I ever do in her room is sleep and have sex, and likewise, I sleep great there....

baddog671 · 12-05-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xx0725

No side effects. Just take it about 45 min. before you plan to hit the sack.

And yeah -- higher doses can leave you drowsy into the next day, so just stick with the 1mg pills. That's all you need.

1 mg to 5 mg of melatonin is considered to be safe and sufficient. It is recommended to start taking melatonin supplements at low dosage from 0.3 mg then gradually increase your dosage up to 5mg until you find the effective dose.

NeverAlone · 12-05-2008, 05:24 PM

lmao, i cant function without atleast 10 hours of sleep, but i go up to atleast 12 hours on the weekend

baddog671 · 12-05-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverAlone

lmao, i cant function without atleast 10 hours of sleep, but i go up to atleast 12 hours on the weekend

Damn, how do you accomplish anything during the day. I hate going to bed becuase I want to stay up and keep doing stuff. Most of the time I wish a day was like 30hours...

still_dre · 12-05-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iam fuzz

just cause you only sleep 4 hours doesnt mean you didnt get a good nights sleep.

it may just mean that you had a great long and undisturbed REM cycle

-fuzz

well, considering that your body goes through sleep cycles, he would only be going through 2.5 cycles on 4 hours of sleep...meaning that he only gets about 45 minutes of REM sleep, which is not sufficient.

-=_Blaze_=- · 12-06-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Billster

continuous heavy lifting will lead to bad sleep quality, hence why people deload their workout every 4 to 8 weeks

Next deload is in 3 weeks at least

Quote:

Also, I saw a study once that said the only thing you should do in your bedroom is sleep and have sex. This "programs" the brain into going straight to sleep when you go to bed. I believe this 100% becuase at my house I am in my room 90% of the time when I'm home. I'm on the computer, watching tv, attempting homework, whatever, all in my room. So, it's more difficult to sleep. On the otherhand, at my gf's, all I ever do in her room is sleep and have sex, and likewise, I sleep great there....

this is a good idea, never thought of that, and its true. sometimes i even lift in my bedrom

Quote:

I've been taking ZMA for a few months now, and althought I couldn't compare it to melatonin or anything like that, I know it always gives me a great nights sleep. If I can give myself 7+ hours to sleep, I always wake up feeling amazing.

Quote:

1 mg to 5 mg of melatonin is considered to be safe and sufficient. It is recommended to start taking melatonin supplements at low dosage from 0.3 mg then gradually increase your dosage up to 5mg until you find the effective dose.

hmm Stacking ZMA and melatonin for sleep stack sounds good lol

Weirdbeard · 12-06-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog671

1 mg to 5 mg of melatonin is considered to be safe and sufficient. It is recommended to start taking melatonin supplements at low dosage from 0.3 mg then gradually increase your dosage up to 5mg until you find the effective dose.

I take 3mg. I tried upping it to 6mg for a couple nights and I felt like absolute ****, constantly when I did.

~snake0 · 12-06-2008, 07:20 AM

melatonin not zma.