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    Why can't I take creatine with soft drinks?

    why not???? like with coke/pepsi etc. full of sugar, should do the same job as dextrose, like dat dere celltech.

    does it damage the creatine? and im talking about monohydrate obviously... any one?
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    They are acidic.
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    Im pretty sure it would fizz and foam like no tommorrow.
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    take it with grape juice
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    Originally Posted by J_Con View Post
    They are acidic.
    Doesn't matter for the time it spends in it.

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    Originally Posted by tevez View Post
    why not???? like with coke/pepsi etc. full of sugar, should do the same job as dextrose, like dat dere celltech.

    does it damage the creatine? and im talking about monohydrate obviously... any one?
    It's the fact that caffeine counters the effects of the creatine (inhibits it). And I just find this hilarious -- you want to take a supp such as creatine but you can't give up your soda? Sigh.
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    I don't see why you couldn't? I just wouldn't take the creatine IN the soda.

    Originally Posted by GainThis View Post
    It's the fact that caffeine counters the effects of the creatine (inhibits it). And I just find this hilarious -- you want to take a supp such as creatine but you can't give up your soda? Sigh.
    I thought they proved it was bunk that it'll inhibit?
    Yes, because creatine is such a serious supplement that you cannot have a soda when you want.
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    Originally Posted by J_Con View Post
    They are acidic.
    Originally Posted by GainThis View Post
    It's the fact that caffeine counters the effects of the creatine (inhibits it).
    i can't believe people still post stuff like this


    OP: HFCS is also not going to "do the same job" as dextrose
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    im guessing, you will get bad gas from the combo but, i have washed the after taste down with a can of coke before & im still alive. as for the caffiene thing, alot of preworkout creatine drinks are loaded with caffeine.
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    Originally Posted by GainThis View Post
    It's the fact that caffeine counters the effects of the creatine (inhibits it). And I just find this hilarious -- you want to take a supp such as creatine but you can't give up your soda? Sigh.
    Wrong. Note that the CrM + Caffeine didn't interfere with creatine absorption and PCr concentration elevation, but impacted ergogenic effects in the studies. However, the study designs / "exercise" protocols may have been more of a factor - isometric contractions, high rep tallies, etc... in the effects and confound that with their practical relevance.

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    Originally Posted by in10city View Post
    Wrong. Note that the CrM + Caffeine didn't interfere with creatine absorption and PCr concentration elevation, but impacted ergogenic effects in the studies. However, the study designs / "exercise" protocols may have been more of a factor - isometric contractions, high rep tallies, etc... in the effects and confound that with their practical relevance.

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    High Fructose Corn Syrup is NOT the same.

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    I remember reading that Jay Cutler used to drink Coke Vanilla post w/o for years.
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    Yes i know HFCS is not good stuff and neither is soda in general, but im sure it will cause a huge insulin spike which is ultimately what is needed for creatine mono absorption. (from what i've read)

    so can someone just tell me, CAN i put 5 grams of creatine mono in a glass of soda? or will it not work? its not like im gonna do it all the time... thanks
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    Yes i know HFCS is not good stuff and neither is soda in general, but im sure it will cause a huge insulin spike which is ultimately what is needed for creatine mono absorption. (from what i've read)

    so can someone just tell me, CAN i put 5 grams of creatine mono in a glass of soda? or will it not work? its not like im gonna do it all the time... thanks
    I'd say mix it in some water, drink it, then drink the soda.
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    They are acidic.
    ...and the PH of your stomache is.....?
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    If you mix the 2 it will in essence cause a massive chain reaction on the highest scale which could most likely erradicate all living beings from the universe except for a few lucky souls stashed away in underground bunkers.

    Actually, yes you can mix the 2... but why? Better off with some juice like others have suggested.
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    the anwser is no you should not. Hfcs in pop does not produce a insulin spike it gets processed through the liver and not the digestive track. Fructos which is fruit sugar is the same way. So juices are also a bad to take with creatine. Also pop is very acidic so no do not use pop.
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    Originally Posted by JJA View Post
    the anwser is no you should not. Hfcs in pop does not produce a insulin spike it gets processed through the liver and not the digestive track. Fructos which is fruit sugar is the same way. So juices are also a bad to take with creatine. Also pop is very acidic so no do not use pop.
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    ...and the PH of your stomache is.....?
    Wait whut? JJA is n00b. Don't listen to him. HFCS will spike your insulin. Fructose is only PART of it.
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    nope it's true. It does not cause a spike like dextose. This is one of the reasons HFCs is bad. When your insulin does not raise and you intruduce HFCs into your body there is no way for that sugar to enter into your cells because there. Was no insulin spike due to the fact that the HFCs is processd by the liver. Eat that biatch
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    so JJA is correct? that sucks.
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    Is prune juice like grape juice? Same effects?
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    Originally Posted by J_Con View Post
    They are acidic.
    and what abt ur gastric acid?
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    Can someone give me a definitive answer? I didnt think it was such a complex question! Any of the reps got any thing? Thanks guys.
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    Originally Posted by J_Con View Post
    They are acidic.
    my guess as well
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    why not???? like with coke/pepsi etc. full of sugar, should do the same job as dextrose, like dat dere celltech.

    does it damage the creatine? and im talking about monohydrate obviously... any one?
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    Can someone give me a definitive answer? I didnt think it was such a complex question! Any of the reps got any thing? Thanks guys.
    It doesn't matter how, with what, or when you take your Creatine as long as you take it regularly.
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    Originally Posted by tevez View Post
    Can someone give me a definitive answer? I didnt think it was such a complex question! Any of the reps got any thing? Thanks guys.
    The original belief was that you should not take creatine with caffeine as they cancel each other out; or caf. diminishes the effects of creatine. Either way, IMO that's crap, but, more importantly, I have read numerous studies that show this to be untrue. And, more importantly yet (and also previously mentioned), why they heck would most pre-workout drinks that contain creatine also contain caffeine?

    So, to concisely answer your question, the reason you have heard not to consume both is probably due to the numerous studies saying that caffeine cancels the effects of creatine. After having cycled creatine for years, reading many conflicting studies, and seeing many of the supplements available I would not worry about it. Take your creatine and drink your soda!

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    Originally Posted by cal62887 View Post
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    Why are you "obviously" not talking about Monohydrate?

    I'm not talking about CEE, MCC etc. (just to avoid confusion.)

    It doesn't matter how, with what, or when you take your Creatine as long as you take it regularly.
    Thank you, i take between 5-10 grams everyday, usually with Gatorade or grape juice but i sometimes i get lazy and bored of that stuff so was just wondering if i could throw in 5 grams of mono in a soft drink. rrrepped
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