No wonder everything in cali is expensive, minimum wage rising to $10/hr da fuq

[eljobber]

Way to drive businesses out of california, government *******s

[nickh04]

still make $9.50 an hour....

[Canviskiller]

brb 30 new businesses switch from ca to texas next month.

7.25/hr of peace

[AfroPope]

The vast majority of businesses that employ people at minimum wage can afford to pay them far more, and depressed wages cost taxpayers more money in the long run (welfare, food stamps, etc). Any initial "shock" to employment resulting from a higher minimum wage is offset by the increased demand for goods and services that accompanies it. Basic economics.

Also, re: your sig, Costco pays people upwards of $15/hr starting.

[DorneyFuky]

Have to make sure the unskilled and uneducated have no incentive to become skilled or educated!

[eljobber]

The vast majority of businesses that employ people at minimum wage can afford to pay them far more, and depressed wages cost taxpayers more money in the long run (welfare, food stamps, etc). Any initial "shock" to employment resulting from a higher minimum wage is offset by the increased demand for goods and services that accompanies it. Basic economics.

Also, re: your sig, Costco pays people upwards of $15/hr starting.

So the Mcdonalds on the corner of Rosemead and Huntington Dr will not make as much money because of this. So again how is this good for attracting business to CA?

Costco also has a different revenue stream than most businesses. Unlike a regular grocery store, they employ an annual fee.

[AfroPope]

So the Mcdonalds on the corner of Rosemead and Huntington Dr will not make as much money because of this. So again how is this good for attracting business to CA?

I'm not 100% sure what you're asking here re: McDonald's on the corner of Rosemead and Huntington.

[OliverTwisterJr]

Not sure if serious

The average single person living in California can't even wipe their ass with $10, $11, or even $12 an hour.

[Efre]

The vast majority of businesses that employ people at minimum wage can afford to pay them far more, and depressed wages cost taxpayers more money in the long run (welfare, food stamps, etc). Any initial "shock" to employment resulting from a higher minimum wage is offset by the increased demand for goods and services that accompanies it. Basic economics.

Also, re: your sig, Costco pays people upwards of $15/hr starting.

lol

[eljobber]

Not sure if serious

The average single person living in California can't even wipe their ass with $10, $11, or even $12 an hour.

That is not my problem. Get a better job.

[lockdev]

So the Mcdonalds on the corner of Rosemead and Huntington Dr will not make as much money because of this. So again how is this good for attracting business to CA?

Costco also has a different revenue stream than most businesses. Unlike a regular grocery store, they employ an annual fee.

You don't want businesses like McDonalds in your area. You think that money is recycled back into the community? A relatively small amount of it is back in taxes but places like McDonalds and WalMart are like leeches on most cities/towns.

[SteamedHams]

Won't somebody pleaaaaaase think of the businesses? For once? They've had such a hard time in our country. ;_;

[AfroPope]

That is not my problem. Get a better job.

Easier said than done in these conditions:


When there are jobs to be had, by all means, getting a better job isn't a bad argument.

But when 14.3% of the country can't find work, that argument doesn't hold as much watter.

[ContrarianIndi]

Won't somebody pleaaaaaase think of the businesses? For once? They've had such a hard time in our country. ;_;

No sh*t, why do you think they are leaving?

[Franglais]

Minimum wage increased much slower the past few decades than the cost of living.

[Amillion]

ITT: OP is dumb.

You think a $10/hr employee is the one that is driving business out of a city? LOL

[eljobber]

You don't want businesses like McDonalds in your area. You think that money is recycled back into the community? A relatively small amount of it is back in taxes but places like McDonalds and WalMart are like leeches on most cities/towns.

I want a place to get a cheap meal on the go. I do not give a phuck about if they pump money back in the community. I shop at Wal-Mart because I can get a case of diet soda for $5. The service of the business providing items for cheap is giving back. Now that minimum wage is rising, business owners will be less inclined to open business here in the state.

[eljobber]

Easier said than done in these conditions:


When there are jobs to be had, by all means, getting a better job isn't a bad argument.

But when 14.3% of the country can't find work, that argument doesn't hold as much watter.

The vast majority of the people who are unemployed have no skills because they did not take the time to get better. A small minority of the unemployed are actual workers who are worth a phuck.

[Jeebus420]

So the Mcdonalds on the corner of Rosemead and Huntington Dr will not make as much money because of this. So again how is this good for attracting business to CA?

Costco also has a different revenue stream than most businesses. Unlike a regular grocery store, they employ an annual fee.

Regular grocery stores pay more than the minimun wage, so this wont effect them. It's only bottom feeders like walmart that may be impacted. These types of businesses are net a leech on society anyway.

[AfroPope]

The vast majority of the people who are unemployed have no skills because they did not take the time to get better. A small minority of the unemployed are actual workers who are worth a phuck.

The first half of your post is factually and demonstrably false and shows very little understanding of economic theory.
The second half of your post is an opinion and can't really be proven one way or the other.
In addition, that number I posted includes the "underemployed," which is people who have skills and qualifications far beyond their actual employment. An extreme example would be a cashier at McDonald's with an Astrophysics degree.

Besides that, have you seen what job postings are like recently? It's a wonder anyone can find a job.

[OliverTwisterJr]

That is not my problem. Get a better job.

But it is your problem. California has always been super expensive and the disgustingly low minimum wage has nothing to do with it.

[KawRider]

The vast majority of businesses that employ people at minimum wage can afford to pay them far more, and depressed wages cost taxpayers more money in the long run (welfare, food stamps, etc). Any initial "shock" to employment resulting from a higher minimum wage is offset by the increased demand for goods and services that accompanies it. Basic economics.

Also, re: your sig, Costco pays people upwards of $15/hr starting.

And this increase in base pay will not only effect end suppliers and retailers but also producers, shippers, manufactuers etc and this increased cost from all levels will be reflected in prices. No matter what you buy be it gas, a candy bar, protein, chicken, a car, a computer, whatever more than likely has multiple minimum wage workers involved. This costs gets passed on to the customer. Who in turn will request more more pay to make up for increased prices. After all why should their buying power be decreased because some unskilled person thinks they "deserve" more? Increased costs (wages) = increased prices.

What about the person who put in a few years at their company to make a few bucks more than minimum wage? Do they just take it up the A and let their buying power decrease or demand an increase in proportion to the pay raise? Again increased costs = increased prices.

Unless you want to live in fairytale socialists lib land.

[AfroPope]

Regular grocery stores pay more than the minimun wage, so this wont effect them. It's only bottom feeders like walmart that may be impacted. These types of businesses are net a leech on society anyway.

Yep. And the depressed wages paid by Wal-Mart cost us all more in taxes because their workers don't have healthcare (brb paying for uninsured ER visits) or enough to eat (brb paying for someone else's food stamps) or enough to pay their rent (brb paying for welfare).
A living wage is better for everyone as increased wages increase demand for goods and services, which is what drives job creation.

[ContrarianIndi]

Raise minimum wage and prices for everything will rise to compensate for it.

If you made minimum wage $40/hr, if businesses don't outright leave (most likely) then the prices of everything would go through the roof.

Look at the prices of food in boom towns where everybody is making ash loads of money. Everything is so expensive.

[Jeebus420]

I want a place to get a cheap meal on the go. I do not give a phuck about if they pump money back in the community. I shop at Wal-Mart because I can get a case of diet soda for $5. The service of the business providing items for cheap is giving back. Now that minimum wage is rising, business owners will be less inclined to open business here in the state.

That's shortsighted thinking, you actually pay more for that soda in the long run because money is not being cycled back into the economy as effectively as it could be. A stronger economy means YOU get paid more.

[shroomed]

Pay people who don't want to work hard throughout their lives and punish those who actually work hard to make a living. California <3 u

[TrillBrah]

The vast majority of businesses that employ people at minimum wage can afford to pay them far more, and depressed wages cost taxpayers more money in the long run (welfare, food stamps, etc). Any initial "shock" to employment resulting from a higher minimum wage is offset by the increased demand for goods and services that accompanies it. Basic economics.

Also, re: your sig, Costco pays people upwards of $15/hr starting.

this x10000000000

[AfroPope]

Pay people who don't want to work hard throughout their lives and punish those who actually work hard to make a living. California <3 u

How does increasing the minimum wage punish anybody? Srs

[DorneyFuky]

Yep. And the depressed wages paid by Wal-Mart cost us all more in taxes because their workers don't have healthcare (brb paying for uninsured ER visits) or enough to eat (brb paying for someone else's food stamps) or enough to pay their rent (brb paying for welfare).
A living wage is better for everyone as increased wages increase demand for goods and services, which is what drives job creation.

Nearly every town in North Dakota, shows that you understand nothing of free markets, economics, or basic business principles.

[ContrarianIndi]

That's shortsighted thinking, you actually pay more for that soda in the long run because money is not being cycled back into the economy as effectively as it could be. A stronger economy means YOU get paid more.

Lol wot.

You don't make a stronger economy by raising minimum wages. If that were the case, why don't we have a $50 minimum wage?

Cuz it's a BS feel good law that is only good for buying political support from the less educated.