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Write-up for Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 Program
Jim Wendler's 5/3/1
One mesocycle lasts 16 workouts, or a little over 5 weeks.
Each mesocycle has 4 microcycles or "waves".
Wave 1. Warmup, 75%x5, 80%x5, 85%x5
Wave 2. Warmup, 80%x3, 85%x3, 90%x3
Wave 3. Warmup, 75%x5, 85%x3, 95%x1
Wave 4. (deload) - 60%x5, 65%x5, 70%x5
Note: Wendler suggests that you underestimate your loading percentages by subtracting 10% from your 1RM when calculating weights; He also suggests that on the last set you can do an "all out rep max" lifting that weight as many times as possible. The goal is to get at least the specified number of reps with that weight and anything beyond that can be considered the dividends that your efforts have payed out. Only attempt extra reps on the final heavy set.
Each wave has 4 workouts:
A. Squat + assistance
B. Bench press + assistance
C. Deadlift + assistance
D. Military press + assistance
Wendler recommends 3 workouts per week. Example:
Week 1: A1, B1, C1
Week 2: D1, A2, B2
Week 3: C2, D2, A3
Week 4: B3, C3, D3
Week 5: A4, B4, C4
Week 6: D4, etc. ...
Optionally there is a second, less intensive, loading parameter:
Wave 1. Warmup, 65%x5, 75%x5, 85%x5
Wave 2. Warmup, 70%x3, 80%x3, 90%x3
Wave 3. Warmup, 75%x5, 85%x3, 95%x1
Wave 4 (Deload) - 60%x5, 65%x5, 70%x5
Substitutions
The main lifts can be substituted with variations (typically in subsequent mesocycles):
Squat - box squat, squat with bands, front squat, etc.
Bench press - board press, floor press, incline, etc.
Deadlift - rack pulls, deficit DL, etc.
Military press - push press, incline press, etc.
Assistance Work
Assistance work depends on your goals:
Base - just do the main lifts
Strength - just do 1-2 supplementary lifts, typically 3-5 sets x 6-20 reps
Bodybuilder - 3-4 supplementary lifts, including some isolation work, done for higher volume, typically 3-4 sets x 10-20 reps
Here is the "Strength" template assistance work from the book:
Squat Day
Squat: 5x10x50%
Lug Curls: 5x10
Bench Press Day
Bench Press: 5x10x50%
DB Rows: 5x10
Deadlift Day
Deadlift: 5x8x50%
Hanging Leg Raises: 5x12
Mil. Press Day
Mil. Press: 5x10x50%
Chins: 5 sets to failure.
Here is the bodybuilder template assistance work from the book:
Squat Day
Hack Squat: 4 sets of 10-20 reps
Leg Extensions: 4 sets of 10-30 reps
Leg Curls: 4 sets of 10-15 reps
Weighted Sit-ups: 4 sets of 10 reps
or
Leg Press – 4 sets of 10-20 reps
Leg Extensions – 4 sets of 10-30 reps
Leg Curls – 4 sets of 10-15 reps
Weighted Sit-ups – 4 sets of 10 reps
Bench Press Day
DB Bench Press: 4 sets of 10-20 reps
Dips (weighted): 4 sets of 8-15 reps
Fly's: 4 sets of 12 reps
Triceps Pushdowns: 4 sets of 10-20 reps
or
DB Incline Press – 4 sets of 10-20 reps
Dips (weighted) – 4 sets of 8-15 reps
Fly's – 4 sets of 12 reps
Triceps Extensions – 4 sets of 10-20 reps
Deadlift Day
Chins: 4 sets of 10-12 reps
DB Rows: 4 sets of 15 reps/arm
Back Raises: 4 sets of 10 reps (with bar behind neck)
Hanging Leg Raises: 4 sets of 15 reps
or
Lat Pulls – 4 sets of 10-12 reps
Bent Over Rows – 4 sets of 15 reps/arm
Reverse Hyperextensions – 4 sets of 12 reps
Hanging Leg Raises – 4 sets of 15 reps
Military Press Day
DB Military Press: 4 sets of 10 reps
Upright Rows: 4 sets of 10 reps
Side Laterals: 4 sets of 10-15 reps
Barbell Curls: 4 sets of 10 reps
or
Hammer Machine Military – 4 sets of 10 reps
Rope Upright Rows – 4 sets of 10 reps
Rear Laterals – 4 sets of 10-15 reps
DB Curls – 4 sets of 10 reps
These are just suggestions, what you do will depend on your own judgement, goals, experience, work capacity, training style, etc.
Links
Training Three Days a Week by Jim Wendler
http://www.flexcart.com/members/elit...d=134&pid=2786
Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 Logbook Calculator
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8615840/Ji...ook-Calculator
Last edited by bango skank; 12-03-2008 at 09:41 AM.
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Silverbar
Meet total - 430/285/525 @ 220
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by IronAbrams
I didn't write it... just added a few things here and there. Best to credit Jim Wendler. 
(I did make the calculator though)
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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Leper Messiah
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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Silverbar
Meet total - 430/285/525 @ 220
"It's terrifying when you're too stupid to know who's dumb." - Joe Rogan
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Where was this last week when I f#kin it up 
Nice work Skank.
The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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Registered User
Great. Another program for BB.com members to misunderstand, perform incorrectly, and complain about later.
Better go ahead and get the FAQ thread going.
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Crossing the Rubicon
Originally Posted by mjw8204
Great. Another program for BB.com members to misunderstand, perform incorrectly, and complain about later.
Better go ahead and get the FAQ thread going.
Can I use 5/3/1 for mah bicepts?
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Deadlift day doesn't have deads and Squat day doesn't have squats. lulz
Originally Posted by mjw8204
Great. Another program for BB.com members to misunderstand, perform incorrectly, and complain about later.
Better go ahead and get the FAQ thread going.
Maybe they should design their own programs?
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Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick
Maybe they should design their own programs? 
It's lose-lose. Either they fail miserably at designing their own programs, or they take on one of these, and then ask a million redundant questions. The forum gets filled with these threads, it becomes the latest trend, and the regulars piss and moan about it.
This will probably turn into the next 5x5etoes.
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What an appropriate siggy you have
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Will I get bigger on this program?
I am interested in a bigger chest/arms. Will this work?
Can it be done 5 days a week instead of 3. I really love going to the gym?
Do I need to squat, I play soccer?
I can't deadlift, I have a bad back, what can I replace it with?
Can I add a day for arms?
Wender doesn't look like Brad Pitt how could this work?
Has anyone else done this? What were the results? Pics?
What supplements are good to use while doing Wedler's program?
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No one answered my questions. *Bump*
The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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Please I need to know. I'm going to the gym in 7 minutes and really need a response.
The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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This forum s***s. No one even bothered to answer me.
The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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Congestion JOTO
Hey Bango, did you ask Jim's permission to post this routine? I am sure that he wants everyone to have this routine for free.
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paying money for routines, FTL
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Originally Posted by MISSINGLINK
Hey Bango, did you ask Jim's permission to post this routine? I am sure that he wants everyone to have this routine for free.
No one on this forum is going to understand the damn thing anyway, and those who actually are competent to do this most likely already bought the book. If people are too stupid to get something as simple as Starting Strength, they'll never figure this out in a million years.
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Originally Posted by darinaldi
No one on this forum is going to understand the damn thing anyway, and those who actually are competent to do this most likely already bought the book. If people are too stupid to get something as simple as Starting Strength, they'll never figure this out in a million years.
Huh?
The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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Surly Elitist Prick
Originally Posted by vicjg
Do WendlerToe x 5, noob
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by MISSINGLINK
Hey Bango, did you ask Jim's permission to post this routine? I am sure that he wants everyone to have this routine for free.
This is just a write-up (one which I didn't even author) that you could go into any one of many journals and find. Besides I know he's planning on writing an e-book specifically on 5/3/1 but it hasn't even been published yet. The one that it's included in now, "Training Three Days a Week," only takes up about 2 pages of its' content. You'll all still need to buy the book. It's linked in the first post.
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by IronAbrams
Are they making you say that? Are you under duress?!
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by vicjg
Where was this last week when I f#kin it up
Nice work Skank.
you're actually a big part of the reason I brought this here. Reading about the program in your journal, I couldn't f#cking understand it. And I know I wasn't the only one... after much digging, I was able to put this all together, make the spreadsheet, and only then was I able to "get it." lol
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by mjw8204
Great. Another program for BB.com members to misunderstand, perform incorrectly, and complain about later.
Better go ahead and get the FAQ thread going.
I have a feeling this won't be a super popular program on here. But for those few that do, I hope this can explain it a little more clearly.
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick
Deadlift day doesn't have deads and Squat day doesn't have squats. lulz
You're the first person to not "get it"! You win a monkey!
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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www.vicjg.com
Originally Posted by bango skank
You're the first person to not "get it"! You win a monkey!
Should I buy the 3rd edition of SS?
The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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Surly Elitist Prick
Originally Posted by bango skank
You're the first person to not "get it"! You win a monkey!
Sweet! I base most of my training around moves that are natural for monkeys.
Hopefully the monkey also has an overly complicated routine that I can purchase somewhere online.
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by vicjg
Should I buy the 3rd edition of SS?
Yeah! it's a scratch and sniff pop-up!
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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Leper Messiah
Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick
Sweet! I base most of my training around moves that are natural for monkeys.
like masturbation...
There is no greater natural advantage in life than to have an enemy overestimate your faults, unless it is to have a friend underestimate your virtues.
-Don Vito Corleone
That's right, Zeus is a damn baby until he downs some of that Skank flavored drank.
-TheStender
The Starting Strength Wiki:
http://startingstrengthwiki.com
Bango F#cks with 5/3/1 Log:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=316088631#post316088631
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www.vicjg.com
Originally Posted by bango skank
Yeah! it's a scratch and sniff pop-up!
ROFL.
The guys who claim "I did GOMAD and got fat" are just stupid. - Dave76
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