Unseen pic of Yates - 5 Days of Dorian

Kaged Muscle · 12-02-2008, 07:18 PM

We have launched our "5 Days of Dorian" on Bodybuilding.com - http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/five...an_feature.htm

We have a great calendar of events for Yates fans which include interviews and pictorials.

At the end of the five days we will publish an unbelievable unseen picture of Yates. The picture is shot by Kevin Horton. I believe Kevin mentioned that Yates was in the high 270's when the picture was taken. This will be published as a wallpaper.

Enjoy.

Commodore_64 · 12-02-2008, 11:25 PM

I love Yates' no BS attitude.
Nice article on general training too.

Kiwi_ · 12-03-2008, 12:34 AM

Good article, interesting to see him talking smack about Charles Glass.

Pullup17 · 12-03-2008, 12:56 AM

Great interview, learnt a few things from it and confirmed some of my own assumptions. I always thought it was pointless to do certain exercises that supposedly "bring out cuts and striations" 2 weeks out of a contest.

I mean, wouldn't it make sense to use exercises like cable crossovers in the off season to build, "refine" and achieve a better mind muscle connection when hitting the MM pose as opposed to doing it 2 weeks out? Here's Yate's take on this.

[ Q ] If something is lacking you are not going to wait until the pre-contest phase to address it anyway, right?
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No, if it is lacking and you start to do it pre-contest then it is too late. Because you are not going to have the right nutrition to build muscle mass, and if you want to change something you have to build something. All your building work and changes are done in the off-season. Pre-contest you are basically just stripping the fat off and trying to maintain the muscle.

Another interesting one

[ Q ] People tend to think that the decline is more of a lower chest exercise.
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That's what they think but I certainly didn't want more lower chest development. Bullsh!t it is for your lower chest: your whole pec area is firing.

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[ Q ] With chest training it is a common misconception that you can isolate all of the individual fibers.
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Well you can't isolate all the pec fibers as they all originate at the one tendon, so they are all going to fire. But you might emphasize an area.

ttowndoode · 12-03-2008, 01:10 AM

Thanks for the link. Loved the interview!

manfred99 · 12-03-2008, 04:47 AM

good read. but i dont agree that your CNS doesnt strengthen as you build up size & strength.

Hugh2 · 12-03-2008, 09:31 AM

Great interview, Dorian is definitely the guy I'd hire to train me if I had the cash. Nice little dig at Charles Glass as well.

But why did BB.com use so many pics from the 96 British Grand Prix? Dorians arms look terrible at that contest.

BOUNTYHUNTERMK2 · 12-03-2008, 09:35 AM

A very insightful article, I look forward to the rest thats set to come.

And, as always, Hugh2 FTW when it comes to them piccies of Dozza

**webmaster** · 12-03-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh2

Great interview, Dorian is definitely the guy I'd hire to train me if I had the cash. Nice little dig at Charles Glass as well.

But why did BB.com use so many pics from the 96 British Grand Prix? Dorians arms look terrible at that contest.

Because Flex and the Weiders have the rights to the other photos. We bought what we could...

WW

Hugh2 · 12-03-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by webmaster

Because Flex and the Weiders have the rights to the other photos. We bought what we could...

WW

That explains it, my bad. While his arms are a bit small in the pics he doesn't look bad. One of the few years he was able to compete uninjured.

d16daily · 12-03-2008, 02:37 PM

where is the part where he talks about Charles glass?? cant find it

ESPforMe · 12-03-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by d16daily

where is the part where he talks about Charles glass?? cant find it

Glass trained Dillet.

This is a cool feature you guys put up. Dorian is a smart opinionated man so it's nice to read his thoughts on training and what-not.

DaBurg3r · 12-03-2008, 04:47 PM

Dorian rocks! What a badass.

Kaged Muscle · 12-03-2008, 07:00 PM

Our next two features are now up http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/five...an_feature.htm

1. An Exclusive Partnership Interview With The Birmingham Bruisers - Leroy Davis & Dorian Yates!
2. 6-Time Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates Interview: Now-Famous 1993 Gym Shots, Injuries, & Current Affairs!

manfred99 · 12-04-2008, 01:34 AM

Dorian:

" I read in a pre (2008) Mr Olympia interview with Jay Cutler - and we now know the outcome of that - and he wasn't even passionate about trying to be the best he could be, or to be improved.

It was, 'I'm just going to be good enough to win the contest.' Well obviously that attitude didn't win him the contest. I can't relate to that at all. I was passionate about the training, I loved to train and push my body. It was a matter of pride as to how hard I could train, how much I could push myself. I will out-train everybody: that was my attitude. I will bury them! The fact that I was making money was absolutely great, but that wasn't my passion."

Although I agree with what Dorian is saying, there a bit of a problem here. Officially, Cutler lost the olympia by a pretty small margin. Dorian was one of the judges at this contest & he had him in like 3rd or 4th place (cant remember which) & he has just admitted to forming a bias opinion on Cutler based purely on his comments prior to the contest. Cutler & his lawyers have previously (in 2001) got the better of the olympia judging system, could we be up for round 2?

Now i agree he maybe should have placed even lower than 2nd, but from a technical point of view, this slip up could spell trouble. I wonder what the outcome would be points-wise if cutler was to be successful in removing dorian's contribution to the score card.

razmatazbaz · 12-04-2008, 04:34 AM

no matter what he said he still scored cutler correctly imo

Findenn · 12-04-2008, 05:30 AM

yeh, but for a judge/jury who dont follow bodybuilding, the entire top 10 gonna look the same to them, so they aint gonna know ****. dex & cutler should have a final posedown in front of 12 angry men.

DaBurg3r · 12-04-2008, 07:18 AM

the lady Dorian trained got marked down for being "too ripped"

lulz

lancs_hotpot · 12-04-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh2

Great interview, Dorian is definitely the guy I'd hire to train me if I had the cash. Nice little dig at Charles Glass as well.

But why did BB.com use so many pics from the 96 British Grand Prix? Dorians arms look terrible at that contest.

Definitely right although he looks good, these are some of the worst pics i have seen of my favourite bodybuilder. So many better ones.

lancs_hotpot · 12-04-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by manfred99

Dorian:

" I read in a pre (2008) Mr Olympia interview with Jay Cutler - and we now know the outcome of that - and he wasn't even passionate about trying to be the best he could be, or to be improved.

It was, 'I'm just going to be good enough to win the contest.' Well obviously that attitude didn't win him the contest. I can't relate to that at all. I was passionate about the training, I loved to train and push my body. It was a matter of pride as to how hard I could train, how much I could push myself. I will out-train everybody: that was my attitude. I will bury them! The fact that I was making money was absolutely great, but that wasn't my passion."

Although I agree with what Dorian is saying, there a bit of a problem here. Officially, Cutler lost the olympia by a pretty small margin. Dorian was one of the judges at this contest & he had him in like 3rd or 4th place (cant remember which) & he has just admitted to forming a bias opinion on Cutler based purely on his comments prior to the contest. Cutler & his lawyers have previously (in 2001) got the better of the olympia judging system, could we be up for round 2?

Now i agree he maybe should have placed even lower than 2nd, but from a technical point of view, this slip up could spell trouble. I wonder what the outcome would be points-wise if cutler was to be successful in removing dorian's contribution to the score card.

I dont think hes biased i think he is totally accurate. Cutler has looked sh*t for the past couple of Olympias, especially when you compare the conditioning and hardness to the kind Dorian is used to.

This quote comes to mind:

"It seems to me that everybody onstage today is 260 to 270 (pounds). Fifty pounds of that must be bullsh!t."

- Dorian Yates on various claimed bodyweights of today's bodybuilding competitors.

I think thats spot on.

LevroneFan2002 · 12-04-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh2

But why did BB.com use so many pics from the 96 British Grand Prix? Dorians arms look terrible at that contest.

His arms looked crap in every contest, resulting in the worst of the worst in the 97 Mr O. He's always had a big torso and proportionately small arms, not a look that I'm a fan of. Most prefer big arms on a smaller frame because those are the standout muscles that girls and guys like etc.

lancs_hotpot · 12-04-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LevroneFan2002

His arms looked crap in every contest, resulting in the worst of the worst in the 97 Mr O. He's always had a big torso and proportionately small arms, not a look that I'm a fan of. Most prefer big arms on a smaller frame because those are the standout muscles that girls and guys like etc.

I think he always had big arms he just had very little biceps peak. Without the injuries i thought his arms looked brilliant.

LevroneFan2002 · 12-04-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot

I think he always had big arms he just had very little biceps peak. Without the injuries i thought his arms looked brilliant.

Obviously compared to guys like us he had huge arms but relative to that chunky torso his arms were small. They really go to nothing in front and back poses. I'm not bothered about rubbish like bicep peak, but his arms were lacking. Or maybe his torso was just too big for them, however you want to look at it. Ideally proportion is best, but if not I/most prefer standout arms rather than lagging arms.

DaBurg3r · 12-04-2008, 05:11 PM

where is the december 4th feature?

lancs_hotpot · 12-04-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LevroneFan2002

Obviously compared to guys like us he had huge arms but relative to that chunky torso his arms were small. They really go to nothing in front and back poses. I'm not bothered about rubbish like bicep peak, but his arms were lacking. Or maybe his torso was just too big for them, however you want to look at it. Ideally proportion is best, but if not I/most prefer standout arms rather than lagging arms.

I personally like the shape of his bis, and his tris can compare with anyone's, but thats just my opinion. Take Cutler for example, his arms are massive, but i think he currently has one of the worst front double bis ever.

Kaged Muscle · 12-04-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBurg3r

where is the december 4th feature?

Here are the next two articles for day 3
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/five...an_feature.htm

Riz · 12-04-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot

Take Cutler for example, his arms are massive, but i think he currently has one of the worst front double bis ever.

the worst of all time by anyone who has finished top 5 in an Olympia.

LevroneFan2002 · 12-04-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Riz

the worst of all time by anyone who has finished top 5 in an Olympia.

His arms look about 3" smaller than Heath's, who is 235 lbs.

morderstwo · 12-05-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by manfred99

Dorian:

It was, 'I'm just going to be good enough to win the contest.' Well obviously that attitude didn't win him the contest. I can't relate to that at all. I was passionate about the training, I loved to train and push my body. It was a matter of pride as to how hard I could train, how much I could push myself. I will out-train everybody: that was my attitude. I will bury them! The fact that I was making money was absolutely great, but that wasn't my passion."

Although I agree with what Dorian is saying, there a bit of a problem here. Officially, Cutler lost the olympia by a pretty small margin. Dorian was one of the judges at this contest & he had him in like 3rd or 4th place (cant remember which) &

i like dorian's no bs approach. definately seems like a man of prinicple. i wonder how he would have placed himself at the 97?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot

I dont think hes biased i think he is totally accurate. Cutler has looked sh*t for the past couple of Olympias, especially when you compare the conditioning and hardness to the kind Dorian is used to.

This quote comes to mind:

"It seems to me that everybody onstage today is 260 to 270 (pounds). Fifty pounds of that must be bullsh!t."

- Dorian Yates on various claimed bodyweights of today's bodybuilding competitors.

I think thats spot on.

ur missing the point man, he agrees cutler shouldave been lower. the problem is there is evidence of how he viewed him before the contest. if there was to be taken action for this they would only look at what can be proven, ie the scorecard, the comments, thats it. opinions of who really shouldave placed where dont mean jack. not that theyd be able to tell anyway. if u have evidence of it thats all they care. i remember a case like this in the early 90s in a floor gymnastics competition. in sports where it is based on subjective opinions, the judges have to be extra careful what they say. they had on video tape some judge saying some **** about a competitor a few weeks before the competition & after some legal action they did remove that judges score & only took the remaining judges scores & it did change the placings by 1 rank i think.

Hugh2 · 12-05-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by morderstwo

i like dorian's no bs approach. definately seems like a man of prinicple. i wonder how he would have placed himself at the 97?

You should read the interview http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dori..._gym_shots.htm he talks about the 97 Olympia at length and he has no doubts about his win at all.

Here's a part I found funny.

[ Q ] I'm not sure if you are aware but there has been an ongoing, long running debate on the Internet as to who was the better bodybuilder at the 1997 Mr. Olympia: you or second placed competitor, Nasser El Sonbaty?

[ A ]I wasn't aware of this debate, as I don't spend a lot of time looking into these kinds of things. These sites are usually for guys who live at home with their mum and don't have anything better to do. - Dorian